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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 09.12.2024 15:42, skrev Andrew
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                <div>Den 09.12.2024 15:14, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                            <div>Den 09.12.2024 13:29, skrev Terje J.
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                              <div>Den 09.12.2024 13:25, skrev Andrew
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                                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пн,
                                        9 дек. 2024 г., 15:22 Terje J.
                                        Hanssen via Cin <<a
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                                          <div>Den 08.12.2024 23:06,
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                                            <div>Den 08.12.2024 22:39,
                                              skrev Phyllis Smith:<br>
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style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">There must be some kind of
                                                    interference when
                                                    you try to email the
                                                    large file.  Did you
                                                    actually send from
                                                    your Gmail account
                                                    or your teknikk
                                                    account.? When I try
                                                    to send a large file
                                                    from my gmail
                                                    account, it says it
                                                    is too big and
                                                    automatically
                                                    uploads it to the
                                                    google drive and
                                                    gives me a link.  I
                                                    just sent you one
                                                    now so you can see
                                                    and delete it.<br>
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                                            My old teknikk account is
                                            expired. I use Thunderbird
                                            as email client IMAP
                                            connected to my gmail
                                            account.<br>
                                            For one or another reason
                                            the connection has been
                                            horrible slow since
                                            yesterday. But now I have
                                            sent you a filelink I hope
                                            you receive.<br>
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                                                          I try first to
                                                          send it
                                                          without the
                                                          manual, in
                                                          case issues to
                                                          get it
                                                          included. I've
                                                          experienced
                                                          issues before
                                                          with file
                                                          attachments
                                                          larger than
                                                          ca. 30 MB,
                                                          either it is
                                                          due to the
                                                          sender or
                                                          receiver side,
                                                          I don't know.<br>
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                                                          <div>So I need
                                                          to know from
                                                          where and how
                                                          to copy these
                                                          html files?<br>
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                                                          <div> <a
href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/HTML_Manual-20241031.tgz"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/HTML_Manual-20241031.tgz</a></div>
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                                                          <div
style="font-size:small">Just download the tgz file and tar xvf to
                                                          wherever you
                                                          have bin/doc
                                                          so it can be
                                                          copied to
                                                          AppDir/usr in
bld_appimage.sh.<br>
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                                          Yes, I copied all manual files
                                          to bin/doc, and repeat the
                                          steps as follows, to get
                                          verified if something is
                                          wrong:<br>
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                                          <font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">cp
HTML_Manual-20241031/CinelerraGG_Manual/**
                                            /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc<br>
                                            <br>
                                            so now the total in
                                            AppDir/usr/bin/doc is 1007
                                            elements, 80.3 MB<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Ran bld_appimage.sh again
                                            and now have
                                            CinGG-20241120-x86_64.AppImage
                                            166.5 MB<br>
                                            (which still is smaller than
                                            the previous
                                            CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage
                                            178.8 MB)<br>
                                            <br>
                                            While Manual Help works for
                                            the latter, it doesn't load
                                            for the new AppImage:<br>
                                            <br>
                                            ~/Applications>
                                            ./CinGG-20241120-x86_64.AppImage<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Alt+h<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Cannot open
                                            /tmp/.mount_CinGG-24Mpo2/usr/bin/doc/CinelerraGG_Manual/Contents.html:
                                            No such file or directory at
/home/terje/.bcast5/ContextManual.pl line 205.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Is this a known issue and
                                            possibly how to solve it?<br>
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                                  <div dir="auto">may be you should move
                                    in folder named <span
style="font-family:"courier new",courier,monospace;font-size:12.8px">CinelerraGG_Manual
                                      and not its content?</span></div>
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                              Yeah, I thought of that, but forgot to ask
                              that question. I was in doubt as I think
                              "all html files" was mentioned<br>
                              Try to cleanup and make appimage again.<br>
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                            Still no success to put the whole Manual
                            folder in <br>
                            <br>
                            <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">cp
                              -r HTML_Manual-20241031/CinelerraGG_Manual
                              /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc<br>
                              <br>
                              Alt+h<br>
                              <br>
                              sh: line 1:
                              /tmp/.mount_CinGG-iDrVm0/usr/bin/doc/ContextManual.pl:
                              No such file or directory<br>
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                    <div dir="auto">so, it was more correct first time,
                      just perl script was unable to find Contents.html</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">may be it was named contents.html,
                      from lowercase c ?</div>
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                "Contents.html" looks to be the correct one as verified
                here from the latest Manual folder:<br>
                <br>
                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">cd
                  /Cin/AppDir/usr/bin/doc/CinelerraGG_Manual<br>
                  <br>
                  ls Content* content*<br>
                  Contents.html  contents.png<br>
                  <br>
                  There looks to be a doc build difference somewhere
                  between my AppImage vs the the official AppImage? </font></div>
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        <div dir="auto">well, for just bin folder</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">I removed anything from bin/doc</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">then re run 'make install'</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="auto">then copied  html docu folder like this:</div>
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        </div>
        <div dir="auto">cp -r  CinelerraGG_Manual bin/doc/</div>
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        <div dir="auto">firefox startup a bit slow but it worked .... in
          termux.</div>
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    I tried to repeat your steps, but confusingly I still got the
    previous error:<br>
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    rm /Cin/bin/doc/**<br>
    ls /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
    <br>
    /Cin # make install <br>
    <br>
    cp -r  CinelerraGG_Manual /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
    ls /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
    CinelerraGG_Manual<br>
    <br>
    du -sh /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
    76M    /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
    <br>
    /Cin<br>
    bin/cin<br>
    Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 20 2024 22:06:05<br>
    <br>
    BC_DisplayInfo::gl_fb_config failed<br>
    <br>
    Alt+h<br>
    sh: line 1: /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc/ContextManual.pl:
    No such file or directory<br>
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                                            I thought Manual Help should
                                            work before I send the
                                            complete AppImage.<br>
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                                                      Oh, there it is.
                                                      Actually I had
                                                      stored a 2023
                                                      version on my
                                                      system, but now
                                                      tried to
                                                      "download" the
                                                      HTML manual from
                                                      here, and it only
                                                      displayed in
                                                      Firefox :)<br>
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href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/</a><br>
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                                                          Can the
                                                          bld_appimage.sh
                                                          take the
                                                          wanted file
                                                          name as
                                                          argument, or
                                                          is it just
                                                          fine to rename
                                                          it afterwards?<br>
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                                                          <div><span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">It is just fine to name it
                                                          afterwards;
                                                          that is what I
                                                          do when
                                                          renaming for
                                                          the website to
                                                          include the
                                                          date.</span></div>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">opening index.html and
                                                          "cinelerra.html"
                                                          is "Secrets of
                                                          Cinelerra",
                                                          Version 4.1 by
                                                          Adam Williams</font></span></div>
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                                                          <div><span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We always want to have
                                                          these files
                                                          with the
                                                          source to
                                                          recognize
                                                          Cinelerra's
                                                          origin and
                                                          continuance.<br>
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                                                          <div><span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></span>And not to forget:
                                                          it is thanks
                                                          to Andrew's
                                                          patchwork and
                                                          time consuming
                                                          guiding that
                                                          has made this
                                                          possible !<br>
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                                                          <div><span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Yes, that goes without
                                                          saying, but I
                                                          should have
                                                          said it
                                                          anyway.</span></div>
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                                                      It was merely
                                                      intended for
                                                      possibly others
                                                      coming to and read
                                                      this later :)<br>
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