<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Just an easy fix. I downloaded the latest appimage and will upload it to the website tomorrow and put a note in News. I will do this when I power up the desktop and check in Andrew's 5 patches.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 4:05 PM Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div>
<br>
<div>Den 09.12.2024 20:31, skrev Phyllis
Smith:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">In trying to
determine where the error is, I was not able to ascertain
where things went wrong so I started from scratch to get the
steps correct.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Although I
can say for sure that the last error of:</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Alt+h<br>
sh: line 1:
/home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc/ContextManual.pl: No
such file or directory</div>
</blockquote>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">is for
sure telling me that the default file, which is part of the
original source and you should still see in
/home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/doc, is missing in
/home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc; that is
ContextManual.pl. Something must have gotten deleted or not
copied to AppDir/usr in its entirety.<br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">If it
is not too much trouble, I would do a fresh build and only
then execute directly "in the bin/doc directory":</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> tar
xvf HTML_Manual-20241031.tgz <br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">then
before running your appimage build, check by executing
"bin/cin" and doing Alt h.</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">If that
works then the copy via bld_appimage.sh should result in
Help being automatically included.<br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Standing
by here for results.<br>
</span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Actually there are three doc locations in my /Cin:<br>
<blockquote>./doc<br>
./bin/doc<br>
./AppDir/usr/bin/doc<br>
</blockquote>
and as the first doc folder is empty, I have a feeling I myself by
accident cleaned up wrong doc folder.<br>
But what do we preserve backup for 😉<br>
<br>
Actually I found the missing file in my backup<br>
<blockquote><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">/Cin # ls
/Cin/bin_use_system_ffmpeg-702/doc/ContextManual.pl</font><br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">/Cin/bin_use_system_ffmpeg-702/doc/ContextManual.pl</font><br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Then I cleaned up the first two doc folders above and copied all doc
files from the backup and added the Cinelerra-GG_Manual. So in worst
case there might be some extra doc files now :)<br>
Tested that Help files worked in CinGG, re-built the AppImage and
tested successful.<br>
<blockquote><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">~/Applications>
du -sh Cin*</font><br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">171M
CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage</font><br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">181M
CinGG-20241120-x86_64.AppImage</font><br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Phyllis, look up for a new file-link for the complete AppImage in a
few minutes 😉 <br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 8:36 AM
Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<div> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 09.12.2024 15:42, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пн, 9 дек. 2024
г., 17:36 Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 09.12.2024 15:14, skrev Andrew
Randrianasulu:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пн, 9
дек. 2024 г., 17:09 Terje J. Hanssen
<<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 09.12.2024 13:29, skrev
Terje J. Hanssen:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 09.12.2024 13:25, skrev
Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пн, 9
дек. 2024 г., 15:22
Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
<<a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 08.12.2024
23:06, skrev Terje
J. Hanssen:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 08.12.2024
22:39, skrev
Phyllis Smith:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
</div>
<div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">There must be some kind of
interference
when you try
to email the
large file.
Did you
actually send
from your
Gmail account
or your
teknikk
account.? When
I try to send
a large file
from my gmail
account, it
says it is too
big and
automatically
uploads it to
the google
drive and
gives me a
link. I just
sent you one
now so you can
see and delete
it.<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
My old teknikk
account is expired.
I use Thunderbird as
email client IMAP
connected to my
gmail account.<br>
For one or another
reason the
connection has been
horrible slow since
yesterday. But now I
have sent you a
filelink I hope you
receive.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
I try first to
send it
without the
manual, in
case issues to
get it
included. I've
experienced
issues before
with file
attachments
larger than
ca. 30 MB,
either it is
due to the
sender or
receiver side,
I don't know.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>So I need
to know from
where and how
to copy these
html files?<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div> <a href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/HTML_Manual-20241031.tgz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/HTML_Manual-20241031.tgz</a></div>
<div>
<div style="font-size:small">Just download the tgz file and tar xvf to
wherever you
have bin/doc
so it can be
copied to
AppDir/usr in
bld_appimage.sh.<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, I copied all
manual files to
bin/doc, and repeat
the steps as follows,
to get verified if
something is wrong:<br>
<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">cp
HTML_Manual-20241031/CinelerraGG_Manual/**
/home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc<br>
<br>
so now the total in
AppDir/usr/bin/doc
is 1007 elements,
80.3 MB<br>
<br>
Ran bld_appimage.sh
again and now have
CinGG-20241120-x86_64.AppImage
166.5 MB<br>
(which still is
smaller than the
previous
CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage
178.8 MB)<br>
<br>
While Manual Help
works for the
latter, it doesn't
load for the new
AppImage:<br>
<br>
~/Applications>
./CinGG-20241120-x86_64.AppImage<br>
<br>
Alt+h<br>
<br>
Cannot open
/tmp/.mount_CinGG-24Mpo2/usr/bin/doc/CinelerraGG_Manual/Contents.html:
No such file or
directory at
/home/terje/.bcast5/ContextManual.pl line 205.<br>
<br>
Is this a known
issue and possibly
how to solve it?<br>
</font></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">may be you
should move in folder named <span style="font-family:"courier new",courier,monospace;font-size:12.8px">CinelerraGG_Manual
and not its content?</span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yeah, I thought of that, but
forgot to ask that question. I was
in doubt as I think "all html
files" was mentioned<br>
Try to cleanup and make appimage
again.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Still no success to put the whole
Manual folder in <br>
<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">cp -r
HTML_Manual-20241031/CinelerraGG_Manual
/home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc<br>
<br>
Alt+h<br>
<br>
sh: line 1:
/tmp/.mount_CinGG-iDrVm0/usr/bin/doc/ContextManual.pl:
No such file or directory<br>
</font></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">so, it was more correct
first time, just perl script was unable to
find Contents.html</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">may be it was named
contents.html, from lowercase c ?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
"Contents.html" looks to be the correct one as
verified here from the latest Manual folder:<br>
<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">cd
/Cin/AppDir/usr/bin/doc/CinelerraGG_Manual<br>
<br>
ls Content* content*<br>
Contents.html contents.png<br>
<br>
There looks to be a doc build difference
somewhere between my AppImage vs the the
official AppImage? </font></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">well, for just bin folder</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I removed anything from bin/doc</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">then re run 'make install'</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">then copied html docu folder like this:</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">cp -r CinelerraGG_Manual bin/doc/</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">firefox startup a bit slow but it worked
.... in termux.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
I tried to repeat your steps, but confusingly I still got
the previous error:<br>
<br>
rm /Cin/bin/doc/**<br>
ls /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
<br>
/Cin # make install <br>
<br>
cp -r CinelerraGG_Manual /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
ls /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
CinelerraGG_Manual<br>
<br>
du -sh /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
76M /Cin/bin/doc/<br>
<br>
/Cin<br>
bin/cin<br>
Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 20 2024 22:06:05<br>
<br>
BC_DisplayInfo::gl_fb_config failed<br>
<br>
Alt+h<br>
sh: line 1:
/home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc/ContextManual.pl: No
such file or directory<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</font>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> <br>
<br>
</font>
<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> <br>
I thought Manual
Help should work
before I send the
complete AppImage.<br>
<br>
<br>
</font><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<div style="font-size:small"> </div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Oh, there it
is. Actually I
had stored a
2023 version
on my system,
but now tried
to "download"
the HTML
manual from
here, and it
only displayed
in Firefox :)<br>
<a href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/</a><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div> <br>
Can the
bld_appimage.sh
take the
wanted file
name as
argument, or
is it just
fine to rename
it afterwards?<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">It is just fine to name it
afterwards;
that is what I
do when
renaming for
the website to
include the
date.</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">opening index.html and
"cinelerra.html"
is "Secrets of
Cinelerra",
Version 4.1 by
Adam Williams</font></span></div>
</blockquote>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We always want to have
these files
with the
source to
recognize
Cinelerra's
origin and
continuance.<br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></span> <br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></span>And not to forget:
it is thanks
to Andrew's
patchwork and
time consuming
guiding that
has made this
possible !<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Yes, that goes without
saying, but I
should have
said it
anyway.</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
It was merely
intended for
possibly
others coming
to and read
this later :)<br>
<br>
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