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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 27.12.2024 22:25, skrev Andrew
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2024 г., 22:55 Phyllis Smith <<a
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style="font-size:small">Andrew, are you
saying that nv-codec-headers at
10.0.26.0 in the current CinGG work with
your GT710? and that the newest
12.2.72.0 does not? If so, then maybe
we should not upgrade. When I look at
the support matrix (url below) it does
not mention the GT710.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Do not worry, I only used
proprietary driver from live dvd to see if nvenc
ever work at all. I normally use built-in
nouveau, even if it does not support encoding
block on any hw.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Do not consider my oddball machine
support as showstopper - I definitely can roll
my own build ;)</div>
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<div dir="auto"><a
href="https://gssparks.github.io/post/can-a-geforce-gt710-nvenc/"
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<div dir="auto">yeah, gt710 is sort of
two-cards-under-same-name, mine is Kepler based
so it worked ....</div>
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A side comment:<br>
Before I rebuilt my legacy SM workstation, I replaced
a GT730 with GTX960 on the MSI mobo (from my upgraded
Chieftec workstation)<br>
<a
href="https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/asus/gt730-sl-2gd3-brk-evo/"
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And then, about 6 months ago, I had the following
drivers for GT 730 enabled on Leap15.5 and Slowroll
respectively:<br>
<blockquote>Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 730]
driver: nvidia v: 470.256.02<br>
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Clearly, yes. <br>
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The opensuse SDB:NVIDIA lists the following driver series for
different NV devices/families<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers#Determination_of_driver_version">https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers#Determination_of_driver_version</a>
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<p>Note: NVIDIA driver versions are mapped to the following naming
convention listed below. You will need this information when you
are ready to install via commandline/zypper.
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<ul>
<li>G03 = driver v340 = legacy driver (<a rel="nofollow"
class="external text"
href="https://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL&q=g03">via
a community user</a>)</li>
<li>G04 = driver v390 = legacy driver (Fermi devices)</li>
<li>G05 = driver v470 = driver for Kepler devices</li>
<li>G06 = driver v550 = driver for Maxwell, Pascal devices and up</li>
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<p>Note: Some OEMs use different chip familys (Kepler, Fermi) for
the same product, as example GeForce 730.
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<div class="col my-auto"><b>Warning:</b> Legacy drivers G03 and
G04 won't work with the actual kernel 6.6.x series. Use free
nouveau drivers instead!</div>
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<div dir="auto">But I do not think opening desktop case just for
this test actually good idea ...</div>
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<div dir="auto">do not worry, ff nvidia headers quite small
tarball, I always can fish old one from one of my backups ....</div>
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Yeah, I don't use the gt730 anymore, as gtx960 was some more
powerful.<br>
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<blockquote> Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 730]
driver: nouveau v: kernel<br>
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style="font-size:small"> <a
href="https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-size:small">BUT when I do a
compare of the old one we have currently
and the latest at this website:</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small"> <a
href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0</a></div>
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style="font-size:small">I get the
following differences which DO NOT say
anything about dropping support for any
previous Nvidia graphics boards.</div>
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style="font-size:small">Below list the
comparison which shows what was changed
from the older version to the latest</div>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b>Bump
for (in-dev) 10.0.26.1</b><br>
Fix macOS build<br>
Add linker functions and types<br>
Fix CUdeviceptr definition for ARM64
CPU<br>
<b>Bump for (in-dev) 10.0.26.2</b><br>
Update headers from Video SDK 11.0<br>
<b>Bump for (in-dev) 11.0.10.1</b><br>
Add cuModuleGetGlobal<br>
Add texture alignment device
attributes<br>
add cuMemcpy<br>
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for (in-dev) 11.0.10.2</b><br>
Fix UB lshift in nvenc struct version
macros<br>
Add more memory functions<br>
Update headers from Video SDK 11.1<br>
Add timeline semaphore type<br>
Add
CU_EXTERNAL_SEMAPHORE_HANDLE_TYPE_TIMELINE_SEMAPHORE_WIN32<br>
Add a subset of CUDA EGLStreams
interop API<br>
Update forgotten version number in
README<br>
Fix codestyle<br>
Add D3D11 interop functions<br>
<b>Release 11.1.5.2</b><br>
Prepare for SDK 12.0 update<br>
Preliminary update of nvEncodeAPI to
SDK 12.0<br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Add
missing SDK 12.0 bits<br>
Update for final release of Video
Codec SDK 12.0.16<br>
Remove AV1 High Profile GUID<br>
Update README<br>
Add cuArrayCreate<br>
<b>Bump for (in-dev) 12.0.16.1</b><br>
Add functions to identify devices in
more ways<br>
Add missing cuStreamWaitEvent function<br>
Update headers from Video SDK 12.1<br>
Add cuDriverGetVersion<br>
Add cuCtxGetCurrent function<br>
<b>Bump for (in-dev) 12.1.14.1</b><br>
Update headers from Video SDK 12.2<br>
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Dec 26, 2024 at 7:20 PM Andrew
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27 дек. 2024 г., 05:09 Phyllis
Smith <<a
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<p dir="ltr">Great so it will be
included in the next release.
Thank you very much.</p>
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<div dir="auto">Can you also please
copypaste min driver notes into
our release notes so it will be
easier for me to track it in case my
older gt710 still stuck at older
driver version (not a blocker, I
surely can swap headers back to 2020
version locally).</div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks and sorry for
relative inactivity. I hope to pick
up some steam ..... may he after
formal New Year date?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Have (good) holidays!</div>
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Dec 26, 2024, 17:10 Terje J.
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<div>Den 26.12.2024 23:15,
skrev Phyllis Smith:<br>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Here is the AppImage with
the latest
nvencoders for
Nvidia graphics that
goes with ffmpeg.</div>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> <a
href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cin-x86_64_nvencupdate.AppImage"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cin-x86_64_nvencupdate.AppImage</a></div>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">For comparison, here is
the appimage
containing the
original nvencoders
from 2020.<br>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> <a
href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage</a></div>
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I've did a quick test with
h64_nvenc.mp4 and
h265_nvenc.mp4 (w/setting
format=Not Interlaced)<br>
Both AppImages works with
similar fps speeds on my
Nvidia GF GTX 960.<br>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I am not sure if encoding
with formats
h264_nvenc.mp4,
h265_nvenc.mp4, or
h264_nvenc.qt
actually work from
an AppImage that was
created on a
computer that does
not have an Nvidea
graphics card or its
software. But for
some reason, I do
not think that that
matters and it
should work.<br>
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Yes, nvenc works (as it
correspondingly was
expected to do with onevpl
for Intel qsv/hw).<br>
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2:11 PM Terje J.
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13:29, skrev
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00:58, skrev
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of
nv-codec-headers
release and
built CinGG
with it and no
problems
here.
Unfortunately
the 4
different
computers I
attempted to
test on did
not have the
correct Nvidia
hardware or
software.
Why? I do not
know but will
try one more
later.<br>
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According to the <i>Readme<br>
</i><a
href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers</a>
<blockquote><i>FFmpeg
version of
headers
required to
interface with
Nvidias codec
APIs.</i><br>
<i>Corresponds
to Video Codec
SDK version
12.0.16.</i><br>
<i>Minimum
required
driver
versions:</i><br>
<i>Linux:
550.54.14 or
newer</i><br>
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As shown in my
previous post, the
legacy (2015)
NV-GF GTX 960 runs
with the following
nv driver version
on Slowroll:<br>
<blockquote>Graphics:<br>
Device-1:
Intel HD
Graphics 530
driver: i915 v:
kernel<br>
Device-2:
NVIDIA GM206
[GeForce GTX
960] driver:
nvidia v:
550.135<br>
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you want and
have a test
download, I can
give it a try on
my legacy GF GTX
960 SkyLake
workstation, to
see if your new
AppImage (still)
works as
previously.<br>
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likely our nv
headers
drifted from
that
ffmpeg-7.0/proprietary
driver assumes
at runtime.</div>
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<div><span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I have been wondering
about
nv-codec-headers
as we are at:</span></div>
<div><span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></span> <span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> </span><a
href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n10.0.26.0"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n10.0.26.0</a></div>
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<div
style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">but I am unsure about
updating to: <br>
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<div
style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"> <a
href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0</a></div>
<div
style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">because if you look at:</div>
<div
style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"> <a
href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/</a></div>
<div
style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">the release versions go
from 12.xx to
8.x and it is
really weird
AND there is
no year on the
release dates
but just day
and month.</div>
<div
style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Since it is such an
important part
of ffmpeg
inside CinGG,
I am concerned
but will at
least try the
12.2.72.0 just
to see what it
does.<br>
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<div
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theory it
should give
users of new
nvidia
hardware av1
encoding
...... but not
sure how it
will work with
older drivers
and hardware.</div>
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can try to
install
something like
nv-codec-headers and then add </div>
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