<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пт, 27 дек. 2024 г., 23:56 Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <div>Den 27.12.2024 21:37, skrev Terje J.
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      <div>Den 27.12.2024 21:07, skrev Andrew
        Randrianasulu:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пт, 27 дек. 2024 г.,
                22:55 Phyllis Smith <<a href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">phylsmith2017@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Andrew,
                    are you saying that nv-codec-headers at 10.0.26.0 in
                    the current CinGG work with your GT710? and that the
                    newest 12.2.72.0 does not?  If so, then maybe we
                    should not upgrade.  When I look at the support
                    matrix (url below) it does not mention the GT710.<br>
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          <div dir="auto">Do not worry, I only used proprietary driver
            from live dvd to see if nvenc ever work at all. I normally
            use built-in nouveau, even if it does not support encoding
            block on any hw.</div>
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          <div dir="auto">Do not consider my oddball machine support as
            showstopper - I definitely can roll my own build ;)</div>
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          <div dir="auto"><a href="https://gssparks.github.io/post/can-a-geforce-gt710-nvenc/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://gssparks.github.io/post/can-a-geforce-gt710-nvenc/</a></div>
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          <div dir="auto">yeah, gt710 is sort of
            two-cards-under-same-name, mine is Kepler based so it worked
            ....</div>
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      A side comment:<br>
      Before I rebuilt my legacy SM workstation, I replaced a GT730 with
      GTX960 on the MSI mobo (from my upgraded Chieftec workstation)<br>
      <a href="https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/asus/gt730-sl-2gd3-brk-evo/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/asus/gt730-sl-2gd3-brk-evo/</a><br>
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    And then, about 6 months ago, I had the following drivers for GT 730
    enabled on Leap15.5 and Slowroll respectively:<br>
    <blockquote>Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 730] driver: nvidia
      v: 470.256.02<br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">isn't 470 < 550 ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But I do not think opening desktop case just for this test  actually good idea ...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">do not worry, ff nvidia headers quite small tarball, I always can fish old one from one of my backups ....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><blockquote>
      Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 730] driver: nouveau v: kernel<br>
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                    <a href="https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new</a></div>
                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">BUT
                    when I do a compare of the old one we have currently
                    and the latest at this website:</div>
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                    <a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0</a></div>
                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
                    get the following differences which DO NOT say
                    anything about dropping support for any previous
                    Nvidia graphics boards.</div>
                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Below
                    list the comparison which shows what was changed
                    from the older version to the latest</div>
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                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b>Bump
                        for (in-dev) 10.0.26.1</b><br>
                      Fix macOS build<br>
                      Add linker functions and types<br>
                      Fix CUdeviceptr definition for ARM64 CPU<br>
                      <b>Bump for (in-dev) 10.0.26.2</b><br>
                      Update headers from Video SDK 11.0<br>
                      <b>Bump for (in-dev) 11.0.10.1</b><br>
                      Add cuModuleGetGlobal<br>
                      Add texture alignment device attributes<br>
                      add cuMemcpy<br>
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                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b>Bump
                        for (in-dev) 11.0.10.2</b><br>
                      Fix UB lshift in nvenc struct version macros<br>
                      Add more memory functions<br>
                      Update headers from Video SDK 11.1<br>
                      Add timeline semaphore type<br>
                      Add
                      CU_EXTERNAL_SEMAPHORE_HANDLE_TYPE_TIMELINE_SEMAPHORE_WIN32<br>
                      Add a subset of CUDA EGLStreams interop API<br>
                      Update forgotten version number in README<br>
                      Fix codestyle<br>
                      Add D3D11 interop functions<br>
                      <b>Release 11.1.5.2</b><br>
                      Prepare for SDK 12.0 update<br>
                      Preliminary update of nvEncodeAPI to SDK 12.0<br>
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                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Add
                      missing SDK 12.0 bits<br>
                      Update for final release of Video Codec SDK
                      12.0.16<br>
                      Remove AV1 High Profile GUID<br>
                      Update README<br>
                      Add cuArrayCreate<br>
                      <b>Bump for (in-dev) 12.0.16.1</b><br>
                      Add functions to identify devices in more ways<br>
                      Add missing cuStreamWaitEvent function<br>
                      Update headers from Video SDK 12.1<br>
                      Add cuDriverGetVersion<br>
                      Add cuCtxGetCurrent function<br>
                      <b>Bump for (in-dev) 12.1.14.1</b><br>
                      Update headers from Video SDK 12.2<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 26, 2024
                    at 7:20 PM Andrew Randrianasulu <<a href="mailto:randrianasulu@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">randrianasulu@gmail.com</a>>
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                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пт, 27 дек.
                            2024 г., 05:09 Phyllis Smith <<a href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">phylsmith2017@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                            <p dir="ltr">Great so it will be included in
                              the next release. Thank you very much.</p>
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                      <div dir="auto">Can you also please copypaste  min
                        driver notes into our  release notes so it will
                        be easier for me to track it in case my older
                        gt710 still stuck at older driver version (not a
                        blocker, I surely can swap headers back to 2020
                        version locally).</div>
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                      <div dir="auto">Thanks and sorry for relative
                        inactivity. I hope to pick up some steam .....
                        may he after formal New Year date?</div>
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                      <div dir="auto">Have (good) holidays!</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu,
                                Dec 26, 2024, 17:10 Terje J. Hanssen
                                <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>
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                                  <div>Den 26.12.2024 23:15, skrev
                                    Phyllis Smith:<br>
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                                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Here is
                                        the AppImage with the latest
                                        nvencoders for Nvidia graphics
                                        that goes with ffmpeg.</div>
                                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">   <a href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cin-x86_64_nvencupdate.AppImage" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cin-x86_64_nvencupdate.AppImage</a></div>
                                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">For
                                        comparison, here is the appimage
                                        containing the original
                                        nvencoders from 2020.<br>
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                                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">  <a href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage</a></div>
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                                  I've did a quick test with
                                  h64_nvenc.mp4 and h265_nvenc.mp4
                                  (w/setting format=Not Interlaced)<br>
                                  Both AppImages works with similar fps
                                  speeds on my Nvidia GF GTX 960.<br>
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                                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I am not
                                        sure if encoding with formats
                                        h264_nvenc.mp4, h265_nvenc.mp4,
                                        or h264_nvenc.qt actually work
                                        from an AppImage that was
                                        created on a computer that does
                                        not have an Nvidea graphics card
                                        or its software.  But for some
                                        reason, I do not think that that
                                        matters and it should work.<br>
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                                  Yes, nvenc works (as it
                                  correspondingly was expected to do
                                  with onevpl for  Intel qsv/hw).<br>
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                                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                        Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 2:11 PM
                                        Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>
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                                          <div>Den 24.12.2024 13:29,
                                            skrev Terje J. Hanssen:<br>
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                                            <div>Den 24.12.2024 00:58,
                                              skrev Phyllis Smith:<br>
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                                                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Downloaded latest version of nv-codec-headers
                                                  release and built
                                                  CinGG with it and no
                                                  problems here. 
                                                  Unfortunately the 4
                                                  different computers I
                                                  attempted to test on
                                                  did not have the
                                                  correct Nvidia
                                                  hardware or software. 
                                                  Why? I do not know but
                                                  will try one more
                                                  later.<br>
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                                          According to the <i>Readme<br>
                                          </i><a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers</a>
                                          <blockquote><i>FFmpeg version
                                              of headers required to
                                              interface with Nvidias
                                              codec APIs.</i><br>
                                            <i>Corresponds to Video
                                              Codec SDK version 12.0.16.</i><br>
                                            <i>Minimum required driver
                                              versions:</i><br>
                                            <i>Linux: 550.54.14 or newer</i><br>
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                                          As shown in my previous post,
                                          the legacy (2015) NV-GF GTX
                                          960 runs with the following nv
                                          driver version on Slowroll:<br>
                                          <blockquote>Graphics:<br>
                                              Device-1: Intel HD
                                            Graphics 530 driver: i915 v:
                                            kernel<br>
                                              Device-2: NVIDIA GM206
                                            [GeForce GTX 960] driver:
                                            nvidia v: 550.135<br>
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                                          <br>
                                          <blockquote type="cite"> If
                                            you want and have a test
                                            download, I can give it a
                                            try on my legacy GF GTX 960
                                            SkyLake workstation, to see
                                            if your new AppImage (still)
                                            works as previously.<br>
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                                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                                  Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at
                                                  4:04 PM Andrew
                                                  Randrianasulu <<a href="mailto:randrianasulu@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">randrianasulu@gmail.com</a>>
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                                                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вс, 22 дек. 2024 г., 01:53 Phyllis Smith <<a href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">phylsmith2017@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                                                          <div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Andrew,<br>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">most
                                                          likely our nv
                                                          headers
                                                          drifted from
                                                          that
                                                          ffmpeg-7.0/proprietary
                                                          driver assumes
                                                          at runtime.</div>
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                                                          <div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I have been wondering
                                                          about
                                                          nv-codec-headers
                                                          as we are at:</span></div>
                                                          <div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></span> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">   </span><a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n10.0.26.0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n10.0.26.0</a></div>
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                                                          <div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">but I am unsure about
                                                          updating to: <br>
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                                                          <div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">   <a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0</a></div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">because if you look at:</div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">   <a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/</a></div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">the release versions go
                                                          from 12.xx to
                                                          8.x and it is
                                                          really weird
                                                          AND there is
                                                          no year on the
                                                          release dates
                                                          but just day
                                                          and month.</div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Since it is such an
                                                          important part
                                                          of ffmpeg
                                                          inside CinGG,
                                                          I am concerned
                                                          but will at
                                                          least try the
                                                          12.2.72.0 just
                                                          to see what it
                                                          does.<br>
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                                                    <div dir="auto">in
                                                      theory it should
                                                      give users of new
                                                      nvidia hardware
                                                      av1 encoding
                                                      ...... but not
                                                      sure how it will
                                                      work with older
                                                      drivers and
                                                      hardware.</div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">you
                                                          can try to
                                                          install
                                                          something like
nv-codec-headers and then add </div>
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