<div dir="auto"><div><div>The nvidia driver version 470 has problems with latest kernel version 6.12, but patch is available. I tested it with gtx 650.</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Best regards,</div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Andrey</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вс, 29 дек. 2024 г., 16:07 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <<a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 28.12.2024 01:51, skrev Terje J.
Hanssen:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 27.12.2024 22:25, skrev Andrew
Randrianasulu:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пт, 27 дек. 2024 г.,
23:56 Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 27.12.2024 21:37, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 27.12.2024 21:07, skrev Andrew
Randrianasulu:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пт, 27
дек. 2024 г., 22:55 Phyllis Smith <<a href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">phylsmith2017@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Andrew, are
you saying that nv-codec-headers at
10.0.26.0 in the current CinGG work
with your GT710? and that the newest
12.2.72.0 does not? If so, then maybe
we should not upgrade. When I look at
the support matrix (url below) it does
not mention the GT710.<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Do not worry, I only used
proprietary driver from live dvd to see if
nvenc ever work at all. I normally use
built-in nouveau, even if it does not support
encoding block on any hw.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Do not consider my oddball
machine support as showstopper - I definitely
can roll my own build ;)</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><a href="https://gssparks.github.io/post/can-a-geforce-gt710-nvenc/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gssparks.github.io/post/can-a-geforce-gt710-nvenc/</a></div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">yeah, gt710 is sort of
two-cards-under-same-name, mine is Kepler
based so it worked ....</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
A side comment:<br>
Before I rebuilt my legacy SM workstation, I
replaced a GT730 with GTX960 on the MSI mobo (from
my upgraded Chieftec workstation)<br>
<a href="https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/asus/gt730-sl-2gd3-brk-evo/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/asus/gt730-sl-2gd3-brk-evo/</a><br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
And then, about 6 months ago, I had the following
drivers for GT 730 enabled on Leap15.5 and Slowroll
respectively:<br>
<blockquote>Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 730]
driver: nvidia v: 470.256.02<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="auto">isn't 470 < 550 ?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Clearly, yes. <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Just to verify by searching for gt730 (or gt710), GF 700 series,
GF730, Linux 64-bit :<br>
<a href="https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/</a><br>
<blockquote>Driver Version:470.256.02<br>
Release Date:Tue Jun 04, 2024<br>
</blockquote>
If Linux 32-bit ARM:<br>
<blockquote>Driver Version:390.157<br>
Release Date:Tue Nov 22, 2022<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
The opensuse SDB:NVIDIA lists the following driver series for
different NV devices/families<br>
<a href="https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers#Determination_of_driver_version" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers#Determination_of_driver_version</a>
<br>
<p>Note: NVIDIA driver versions are mapped to the following naming
convention listed below. You will need this information when you
are ready to install via commandline/zypper. </p>
<ul>
<li>G03 = driver v340 = legacy driver (<a rel="nofollow noreferrer" href="https://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL&q=g03" target="_blank">via a community user</a>)</li>
<li>G04 = driver v390 = legacy driver (Fermi devices)</li>
<li>G05 = driver v470 = driver for Kepler devices</li>
<li>G06 = driver v550 = driver for Maxwell, Pascal devices and
up</li>
</ul>
<p>Note: Some OEMs use different chip familys (Kepler, Fermi) for
the same product, as example GeForce 730. </p>
<div>
<div><b>Warning:</b> Legacy drivers G03 and
G04 won't work with the actual kernel 6.6.x series. Use free
nouveau drivers instead!</div>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto">But I do not think opening desktop case just
for this test actually good idea ...</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">do not worry, ff nvidia headers quite small
tarball, I always can fish old one from one of my backups
....</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yeah, I don't use the gt730 anymore, as gtx960 was some more
powerful.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<blockquote> Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 730]
driver: nouveau v: kernel<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> <a href="https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">BUT when I do
a compare of the old one we have
currently and the latest at this
website:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> <a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I get the
following differences which DO NOT say
anything about dropping support for
any previous Nvidia graphics boards.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Below list the
comparison which shows what was
changed from the older version to the
latest</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b>Bump
for (in-dev) 10.0.26.1</b><br>
Fix macOS build<br>
Add linker functions and types<br>
Fix CUdeviceptr definition for ARM64
CPU<br>
<b>Bump for (in-dev) 10.0.26.2</b><br>
Update headers from Video SDK 11.0<br>
<b>Bump for (in-dev) 11.0.10.1</b><br>
Add cuModuleGetGlobal<br>
Add texture alignment device
attributes<br>
add cuMemcpy<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b>Bump
for (in-dev) 11.0.10.2</b><br>
Fix UB lshift in nvenc struct
version macros<br>
Add more memory functions<br>
Update headers from Video SDK 11.1<br>
Add timeline semaphore type<br>
Add
CU_EXTERNAL_SEMAPHORE_HANDLE_TYPE_TIMELINE_SEMAPHORE_WIN32<br>
Add a subset of CUDA EGLStreams
interop API<br>
Update forgotten version number in
README<br>
Fix codestyle<br>
Add D3D11 interop functions<br>
<b>Release 11.1.5.2</b><br>
Prepare for SDK 12.0 update<br>
Preliminary update of nvEncodeAPI to
SDK 12.0<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Add
missing SDK 12.0 bits<br>
Update for final release of Video
Codec SDK 12.0.16<br>
Remove AV1 High Profile GUID<br>
Update README<br>
Add cuArrayCreate<br>
<b>Bump for (in-dev) 12.0.16.1</b><br>
Add functions to identify devices in
more ways<br>
Add missing cuStreamWaitEvent
function<br>
Update headers from Video SDK 12.1<br>
Add cuDriverGetVersion<br>
Add cuCtxGetCurrent function<br>
<b>Bump for (in-dev) 12.1.14.1</b><br>
Update headers from Video SDK 12.2<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 7:20 PM Andrew
Randrianasulu <<a href="mailto:randrianasulu@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">randrianasulu@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">
<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пт, 27 дек.
2024 г., 05:09 Phyllis Smith
<<a href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">phylsmith2017@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Great so it will
be included in the next
release. Thank you very
much.</p>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Can you also please
copypaste min driver notes into
our release notes so it will be
easier for me to track it in case
my older gt710 still stuck at
older driver version (not a
blocker, I surely can swap headers
back to 2020 version locally).</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Thanks and sorry for
relative inactivity. I hope to
pick up some steam ..... may he
after formal New Year date?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Have (good)
holidays!</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu,
Dec 26, 2024, 17:10 Terje
J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
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<div> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den 26.12.2024
23:15, skrev Phyllis
Smith:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Here is the AppImage with
the latest
nvencoders for
Nvidia graphics
that goes with
ffmpeg.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> <a href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cin-x86_64_nvencupdate.AppImage" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cin-x86_64_nvencupdate.AppImage</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">For comparison, here is
the appimage
containing the
original
nvencoders from
2020.<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> <a href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage</a></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
I've did a quick test
with h64_nvenc.mp4 and
h265_nvenc.mp4
(w/setting format=Not
Interlaced)<br>
Both AppImages works
with similar fps speeds
on my Nvidia GF GTX 960.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I am not sure if encoding
with formats
h264_nvenc.mp4,
h265_nvenc.mp4, or
h264_nvenc.qt
actually work from
an AppImage that
was created on a
computer that does
not have an Nvidea
graphics card or
its software. But
for some reason, I
do not think that
that matters and
it should work.<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, nvenc works (as it
correspondingly was
expected to do with
onevpl for Intel
qsv/hw).<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Thu, Dec 26, 2024
at 2:11 PM Terje
J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<div> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den
24.12.2024
13:29, skrev
Terje J.
Hanssen:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<div>Den
24.12.2024
00:58, skrev
Phyllis Smith:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Downloaded latest version
of
nv-codec-headers
release and
built CinGG
with it and no
problems
here.
Unfortunately
the 4
different
computers I
attempted to
test on did
not have the
correct Nvidia
hardware or
software.
Why? I do not
know but will
try one more
later.<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote>
According to the
<i>Readme<br>
</i><a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers</a>
<blockquote><i>FFmpeg
version of
headers
required to
interface with
Nvidias codec
APIs.</i><br>
<i>Corresponds
to Video Codec
SDK version
12.0.16.</i><br>
<i>Minimum
required
driver
versions:</i><br>
<i>Linux:
550.54.14 or
newer</i><br>
</blockquote>
As shown in my
previous post,
the legacy
(2015) NV-GF GTX
960 runs with
the following nv
driver version
on Slowroll:<br>
<blockquote>Graphics:<br>
Device-1:
Intel HD
Graphics 530
driver: i915
v: kernel<br>
Device-2:
NVIDIA GM206
[GeForce GTX
960] driver:
nvidia v:
550.135<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
If you want
and have a
test download,
I can give it
a try on my
legacy GF GTX
960 SkyLake
workstation,
to see if your
new AppImage
(still) works
as previously.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 4:04 PM Andrew Randrianasulu
<<a href="mailto:randrianasulu@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">randrianasulu@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<div><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вс, 22 дек. 2024 г., 01:53 Phyllis Smith <<a href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">phylsmith2017@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Andrew,<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto">most
likely our nv
headers
drifted from
that
ffmpeg-7.0/proprietary
driver assumes
at runtime.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I have been wondering
about
nv-codec-headers
as we are at:</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></span> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> </span><a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n10.0.26.0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n10.0.26.0</a></div>
<div>
<div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">but I am unsure about
updating to: <br>
</div>
<div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"> <a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/tag/n12.2.72.0</a></div>
<div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">because if you look at:</div>
<div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"> <a href="https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FFmpeg/nv-codec-headers/releases/</a></div>
<div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">the release versions go
from 12.xx to
8.x and it is
really weird
AND there is
no year on the
release dates
but just day
and month.</div>
<div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Since it is such an
important part
of ffmpeg
inside CinGG,
I am concerned
but will at
least try the
12.2.72.0 just
to see what it
does.<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">in
theory it
should give
users of new
nvidia
hardware av1
encoding
...... but not
sure how it
will work with
older drivers
and hardware.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
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<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">you
can try to
install
something like
nv-codec-headers and then add </div>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
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</div>
</blockquote>
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</blockquote>
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</blockquote>
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