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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03.12.2024 17:25, Phyllis Smith
      wrote:<br>
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            we do not talk about changing default globally, just about
            machinery behind</blockquote>
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          Sorry, I misunderstood and thought you meant default for all
          instead of Andrey's packages.  (I need to pay more attention
          to the details in the email.)<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">FYI - I
          believe for Fedora 40, oneVPL is installed with the O/S by
          default BUT I had to install oneVPL-devel to build CinGG.</div>
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    I started Cingg on Leap 15.5 with the latest RPM <br>
    Cinelerra Infinity - built: Dec 29 2024 03:47:56<br>
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    and tried to test the "h264/5_vaapi,mp4" and "h264/5_qsv.mp4"
    presets.<br>
    But as they didn't work, I guess the onVPL support is not added
    (yet)?<br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">but
          at 3am (GMT+3) I think we surely can stop holding our breath
          for same-minute answer ;)</blockquote>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Andrew, I
          just send email when I happen to see it, hoping that you
          ignore it until the next day - I will endeavor to track time
          better.</div>
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          I did not looked at labels issue yet</blockquote>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">MatN will not
          be able to address the labels issue until Wednesday so we
          should probably wait until we hear back from him -- it may be
          an anomaly that may not be a bug due to some kind of
          interruption or it could just be a really esoteric bug.  I did
          update the BT #666.<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 5:16 PM
          Andrew Randrianasulu <<a
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вт, 3 дек. 2024 г.,
                  02:42 Phyllis Smith <<a
                    href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">phylsmith2017@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Well,
                      yes, BUT the point is people have procedures set
                      up to build this automatically for years and now
                      all of a sudden they will have to install more
                      software.  Probably not a good idea.<br>
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            <div dir="auto">Note, we do not talk about changing default
              globally, just about machinery behind</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
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            <div dir="auto"><a
href="https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases</a></div>
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            <div dir="auto">but at 3am (GMT+3) I think we surely can
              stop holding our breath for same-minute answer ;)</div>
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            <div dir="auto">Good night, sorry I did not looked at labels
              issue yet</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2,
                      2024 at 4:40 PM Andrew Randrianasulu <<a
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вт, 3 дек.
                              2024 г., 02:36 Phyllis Smith <<a
                                href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com"
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                                  it won't even build when I add:  
                                  --with-onevpl    on the configure
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">configure: error: requires
                                                          onevpl
                                                          support.<br>
                                                          make: *** No
                                                          targets
                                                          specified and
                                                          no makefile
                                                          found.  Stop.</div>
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                                                          <div
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">This is my 6 year old AMD
                                                          laptop.<br>
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                        <div dir="auto">you need to install</div>
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                        <div dir="auto"><a
                            href="https://github.com/intel/libvpl"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
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                        <div dir="auto">I used 2.13 for my dummy tests,
                          but something down to 2.6 (I think) should
                          work, at least as build requirement.</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                  Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 4:01 PM Terje J.
                                  Hanssen <<a
href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com"
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                                    <div>Den 02.12.2024 23:32, skrev
                                      Phyllis Smith:<br>
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                                          style="font-size:small">Adding
                                          OneVPL by default, which only
                                          works on the latest Intel
                                          computers and not on older
                                          ones or AMD, would not be a
                                          good idea; especially not for
                                          the RPM packaging.  That is my
                                          opinion based on our attempt
                                          to keep CinGG generically
                                          usable on older computers and
                                          even 32-bit systems.</div>
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                                    I didn't think "onevpl on" would
                                    prohibit other than Intel hardware
                                    to work as else, and that hwaccell
                                    work or not, dependent of the
                                    platform support.<br>
                                    Actually my thought was to test what
                                    legacy Intel hardware are good for.
                                    Is possibly a Cingg user-switch
                                    possible instead?<br>
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                                          style="font-size:small">I have
                                          yet to go through the last 5
                                          attachment patches that Andrew
                                          graciously put all in one
                                          place for viability on all
                                          systems.<br>
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                                          class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec
                                          2, 2024 at 2:01 PM Terje J.
                                          Hanssen <<a
href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
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                                            <div>Den 30.11.2024 01:03,
                                              skrev Andrew
                                              Randrianasulu:<br>
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                                                      class="gmail_attr">сб,
                                                      30 нояб. 2024 г.,
                                                      01:07 Phyllis
                                                      Smith via Cin <<a
href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
                                                        target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>:<br>
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                                                        <div
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Andrew, should these and
                                                          the QSV
                                                          presets be
                                                          checked into
                                                          GIT now that
                                                          Terje has
                                                          tested them on
                                                          his specific
                                                          hardware?</div>
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                                                <div dir="auto">yes, but
                                                  10bit ones require
                                                  patch for themselves
                                                  and recent one 
                                                  removing addition of
                                                  ildct flag for some
                                                  qsv encoders ....</div>
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                                                <div dir="auto">"Exp: do
                                                  not set ildct flag for
                                                  qsv_av1/h264/vp9"</div>
                                                <div dir="auto">0001-yet-another-10bit-attempt.patch</div>
                                                <div dir="auto">0002-Hopefully-wire-up-various-cin_pix_fmt-for-vaapi-enco.patch</div>
                                                <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">re-attached
                                                  so you do not need to
                                                  hunt them in
                                                  mailthreads ....</div>
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                                            Is the onevpl patch already
                                            included in the buildsystem?<br>
                                            It was said it was "default
                                            to off", so I wonder if it
                                            will be available or "on" in
                                            the upcoming rpm?<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">I also
                                                  have mediacodec/termux
                                                  related profiles, and
                                                  one hackfix for
                                                  mjpegtools failing to
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                                                          Appimages
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href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com"
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                                                          <div> Attached
                                                          tested vaapi
                                                          hwaccel
                                                          presets as
                                                          gzip'd tar
                                                          file<br>
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face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">av1_vaapi_10b420.mp4<br>
av1_vaapi_10b420.webm<br>
av1_vaapi_8b420.mp4<br>
av1_vaapi_8b420.webm<br>
h264_vaapi_8b420.mp4<br>
hevc_vaapi_10b420.mp4<br>
hevc_vaapi_10b422.mp4<br>
hevc_vaapi_8b420.mp4<br>
vp9_vaapi_10b420.mp4<br>
vp9_vaapi_10b420.webm<br>
vp9_vaapi_8b420.mp4<br>
vp9_vaapi_8b420.webm<br>
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