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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29.12.2024 17:04, Terje J. Hanssen
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03.12.2024 17:25, Phyllis Smith
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              we do not talk about changing default globally, just about
              machinery behind</blockquote>
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            Sorry, I misunderstood and thought you meant default for all
            instead of Andrey's packages.  (I need to pay more attention
            to the details in the email.)<br>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">FYI - I
            believe for Fedora 40, oneVPL is installed with the O/S by
            default BUT I had to install oneVPL-devel to build CinGG.</div>
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      I started Cingg on Leap 15.5 with the latest RPM <br>
      Cinelerra Infinity - built: Dec 29 2024 03:47:56<br>
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      and tried to test the "h264/5_vaapi,mp4" and "h264/5_qsv.mp4"
      presets.<br>
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    Sorry, a bit too hurry - I was partly deceived by trivial file
    accesses.<br>
    <ul>
      <li>The correct is that h264/hevc/av1 vaapi work (libva)</li>
      <li>while h264/hevc/av1 qsv cant find codec  (libvpl)</li>
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      cite="mid:cfa8cacd-b333-4e5e-a053-2510201a5acb@gmail.com"> But as
      they didn't work, I guess the onVPL support is not added (yet)?<br>
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            at 3am (GMT+3) I think we surely can stop holding our breath
            for same-minute answer ;)</blockquote>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Andrew, I
            just send email when I happen to see it, hoping that you
            ignore it until the next day - I will endeavor to track time
            better.</div>
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            I did not looked at labels issue yet</blockquote>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">MatN will
            not be able to address the labels issue until Wednesday so
            we should probably wait until we hear back from him -- it
            may be an anomaly that may not be a bug due to some kind of
            interruption or it could just be a really esoteric bug.  I
            did update the BT #666.<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at
            5:16 PM Andrew Randrianasulu <<a
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вт, 3 дек. 2024 г.,
                    02:42 Phyllis Smith <<a
                      href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com"
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                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Well,
                        yes, BUT the point is people have procedures set
                        up to build this automatically for years and now
                        all of a sudden they will have to install more
                        software.  Probably not a good idea.<br>
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              <div dir="auto">Note, we do not talk about changing
                default globally, just about machinery behind</div>
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              <div dir="auto"><a
href="https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases</a></div>
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              <div dir="auto">but at 3am (GMT+3) I think we surely can
                stop holding our breath for same-minute answer ;)</div>
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              <div dir="auto">Good night, sorry I did not looked at
                labels issue yet</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2,
                        2024 at 4:40 PM Andrew Randrianasulu <<a
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вт, 3
                                дек. 2024 г., 02:36 Phyllis Smith <<a
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                                    it won't even build when I add:  
                                    --with-onevpl    on the configure
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">configure: error: requires
                                                          onevpl
                                                          support.<br>
                                                          make: *** No
                                                          targets
                                                          specified and
                                                          no makefile
                                                          found.  Stop.</div>
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                                                          <div
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                                                          laptop.<br>
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                          <div dir="auto">you need to install</div>
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                          <div dir="auto"><a
                              href="https://github.com/intel/libvpl"
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                          <div dir="auto">I used 2.13 for my dummy
                            tests, but something down to 2.6 (I think)
                            should work, at least as build requirement.</div>
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                                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                    Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 4:01 PM Terje J.
                                    Hanssen <<a
href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
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                                      <div>Den 02.12.2024 23:32, skrev
                                        Phyllis Smith:<br>
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                                            style="font-size:small">Adding
                                            OneVPL by default, which
                                            only works on the latest
                                            Intel computers and not on
                                            older ones or AMD, would not
                                            be a good idea; especially
                                            not for the RPM packaging. 
                                            That is my opinion based on
                                            our attempt to keep CinGG
                                            generically usable on older
                                            computers and even 32-bit
                                            systems.</div>
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                                      I didn't think "onevpl on" would
                                      prohibit other than Intel hardware
                                      to work as else, and that hwaccell
                                      work or not, dependent of the
                                      platform support.<br>
                                      Actually my thought was to test
                                      what legacy Intel hardware are
                                      good for. Is possibly a Cingg
                                      user-switch possible instead?<br>
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                                            style="font-size:small">I
                                            have yet to go through the
                                            last 5 attachment patches
                                            that Andrew graciously put
                                            all in one place for
                                            viability on all systems.<br>
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                                            class="gmail_attr">On Mon,
                                            Dec 2, 2024 at 2:01 PM Terje
                                            J. Hanssen <<a
href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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                                              <div>Den 30.11.2024 01:03,
                                                skrev Andrew
                                                Randrianasulu:<br>
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class="gmail_attr">сб, 30 нояб. 2024 г., 01:07 Phyllis Smith via Cin
                                                        <<a
href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>:<br>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Andrew, should these and
                                                          the QSV
                                                          presets be
                                                          checked into
                                                          GIT now that
                                                          Terje has
                                                          tested them on
                                                          his specific
                                                          hardware?</div>
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                                                  <div dir="auto">yes,
                                                    but 10bit ones
                                                    require patch for
                                                    themselves and
                                                    recent one  removing
                                                    addition of ildct
                                                    flag for some qsv
                                                    encoders ....</div>
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                                                  <div dir="auto">"Exp:
                                                    do not set ildct
                                                    flag for
                                                    qsv_av1/h264/vp9"</div>
                                                  <div dir="auto">0001-yet-another-10bit-attempt.patch</div>
                                                  <div dir="auto">0002-Hopefully-wire-up-various-cin_pix_fmt-for-vaapi-enco.patch</div>
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                                                  <div dir="auto">re-attached
                                                    so you do not need
                                                    to hunt them in
                                                    mailthreads ....</div>
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                                              <br>
                                              Is the onevpl patch
                                              already included in the
                                              buildsystem?<br>
                                              It was said it was
                                              "default to off", so I
                                              wonder if it will be
                                              available or "on" in the
                                              upcoming rpm?<br>
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                                                  <div dir="auto">I also
                                                    have
                                                    mediacodec/termux
                                                    related profiles,
                                                    and one hackfix for
                                                    mjpegtools failing
                                                    to build here on
                                                    clang.</div>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">P.S. There will not be new
                                                          Appimages
                                                          created at the
                                                          end of this
                                                          month, but
                                                          will wait
                                                          until
                                                          December.</div>
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class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 3:52 PM Terje J. Hanssen <<a
href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div> Attached
                                                          tested vaapi
                                                          hwaccel
                                                          presets as
                                                          gzip'd tar
                                                          file<br>
                                                          <blockquote><font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">av1_vaapi_10b420.mp4<br>
av1_vaapi_10b420.webm<br>
av1_vaapi_8b420.mp4<br>
av1_vaapi_8b420.webm<br>
h264_vaapi_8b420.mp4<br>
hevc_vaapi_10b420.mp4<br>
hevc_vaapi_10b422.mp4<br>
hevc_vaapi_8b420.mp4<br>
vp9_vaapi_10b420.mp4<br>
vp9_vaapi_10b420.webm<br>
vp9_vaapi_8b420.mp4<br>
vp9_vaapi_8b420.webm<br>
                                                          </font><br>
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                                                        -- <br>
                                                        Cin mailing list<br>
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a><br>
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href="https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin"
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