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                <div>Den 06.05.2025 22:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                            <div>Den 05.05.2025 16:05, skrev Andrew
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                                              J. Hanssen via Cin <<a
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                                              <div> I consider to make a
                                                second preservation
                                                backup for archiving my
                                                Analog S-video and HDV
                                                footages on tapes to
                                                lossless compressed
                                                FFV1.MKV files stored on
                                                large USB3 expansion
                                                disks. Also ffv1 HW
                                                (vulkan) decoding (next
                                                and encoding (later?)
                                                are of interest in this
                                                context.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Related previous threads<br>
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                                                I adapt simply the last
                                                ffmpeg mpeg-2 code line
                                                to a first ffv1, version
                                                3 test, 10 sec file<br>
                                                <br>
                                                ffmpeg -hide_banner -f
                                                v4l2 -input_format
                                                yuyv422 -video_size
                                                720x576 -framerate 50 -i
                                                /dev/video0 -f alsa -ac
                                                2 -i hw:CARD=UHD,DEV=0
                                                -c:v ffv1 -level 3 -c:a
                                                pcm_s16le -t 10
                                                720x576_50fps+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
                                                <blockquote>Input #0,
                                                  video4linux2,v4l2,
                                                  from '/dev/video0':<br>
                                                    Duration: N/A,
                                                  start: 351.803278,
                                                  bitrate: 331776 kb/s<br>
                                                    Stream #0:0: Video:
                                                  rawvideo (YUY2 /
                                                  0x32595559), yuyv422,
                                                  720x576, 331776 kb/s,
                                                  50 fps, 50 tbr, 1000k
                                                  tbn<br>
                                                  [aist#1:0/pcm_s16le @
                                                  0x555a99736cc0]
                                                  Guessed Channel
                                                  Layout: stereo<br>
                                                  Input #1, alsa, from
                                                  'hw:CARD=UHD,DEV=0':<br>
                                                    Duration: N/A,
                                                  start:
                                                  1746445045.742179,
                                                  bitrate: 1536 kb/s<br>
                                                    Stream #1:0: Audio:
                                                  pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz,
                                                  stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s<br>
                                                  Stream mapping:<br>
                                                    Stream #0:0 ->
                                                  #0:0 (rawvideo
                                                  (native) -> ffv1
                                                  (native))<br>
                                                    Stream #1:0 ->
                                                  #0:1 (pcm_s16le
                                                  (native) ->
                                                  pcm_s16le (native))<br>
                                                  Press [q] to stop, [?]
                                                  for help<br>
                                                  Output #0, matroska,
                                                  to
                                                  '720x576_50fps+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv':<br>
                                                    Metadata:<br>
                                                      encoder         :
                                                  Lavf61.7.100<br>
                                                    Stream #0:0: Video:
                                                  ffv1 (FFV1 /
                                                  0x31564646),
                                                  yuv422p(tv,
                                                  progressive), 720x576,
                                                  q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 50
                                                  fps, 1k tbn<br>
                                                        Metadata:<br>
                                                         
                                                  encoder         :
                                                  Lavc61.19.101 ffv1<br>
                                                    Stream #0:1: Audio:
                                                  pcm_s16le
                                                  ([1][0][0][0] /
                                                  0x0001), 48000 Hz,
                                                  stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s<br>
                                                        Metadata:<br>
                                                         
                                                  encoder         :
                                                  Lavc61.19.101
                                                  pcm_s16le<br>
                                                  [out#0/matroska @
                                                  0x555a99736f40]
                                                  video:57467KiB
                                                  audio:1875KiB
                                                  subtitle:0KiB other
                                                  streams:0KiB global
                                                  headers:0KiB muxing
                                                  overhead: 0.069226%<br>
                                                  frame=  500 fps= 50
                                                  q=-0.0 Lsize=  
                                                  59383KiB
                                                  time=00:00:10.00
                                                  bitrate=48646.9kbits/s
                                                  speed=0.998x <br>
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                                                <br>
                                                ----------<br>
                                                <br>
                                                du -sh *<br>
                                                58M   
                                                720x576_50fps+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
                                                <br>
                                                ----------<br>
                                                <br>
                                                ffprobe -hide_banner
                                                720x576_50fps+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
                                                <blockquote>Input #0,
                                                  matroska,webm, from
                                                  '720x576_50fps+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv':<br>
                                                    Metadata:<br>
                                                      ENCODER         :
                                                  Lavf61.7.100<br>
                                                    Duration:
                                                  00:00:10.00, start:
                                                  0.000000, bitrate:
                                                  48646 kb/s<br>
                                                    Stream #0:0: Video:
                                                  ffv1 (FFV1 /
                                                  0x31564646),
                                                  yuv422p(tv,
                                                  progressive), 720x576,
                                                  50 fps, 50 tbr, 1k tbn<br>
                                                        Metadata:<br>
                                                         
                                                  ENCODER         :
                                                  Lavc61.19.101 ffv1<br>
                                                         
                                                  DURATION        :
                                                  00:00:10.000000000<br>
                                                    Stream #0:1: Audio:
                                                  pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, 2
                                                  channels, s16, 1536
                                                  kb/s<br>
                                                        Metadata:<br>
                                                         
                                                  ENCODER         :
                                                  Lavc61.19.101
                                                  pcm_s16le<br>
                                                         
                                                  DURATION        :
                                                  00:00:10.000000000<br>
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                                                <br>
                                                ------------        <br>
                                                <br>
                                                mediainfo
                                                720x576_50fps+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
                                                <blockquote>General<br>
                                                  Unique
                                                  ID                               
                                                  :
                                                  158479793538002634101121179263279280827
(0x773A19163BEA6038DF448CE1529BB2BB)<br>
                                                  Complete
                                                  name                           
                                                  :
720x576_50fps+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
Format                                   : Matroska<br>
                                                  Format
                                                  version                          
                                                  : Version 4<br>
                                                  File
                                                  size                               
                                                  : 58.0 MiB<br>
Duration                                 : 10 s 0 ms<br>
                                                  Overall bit rate
                                                  mode                   
                                                  : Variable<br>
                                                  Overall bit
                                                  rate                        
                                                  : 48.6 Mb/s<br>
                                                  Frame
                                                  rate                              
                                                  : 50.000 FPS<br>
                                                  Writing
                                                  application                     
                                                  : Lavf61.7.100<br>
                                                  Writing
                                                  library                         
                                                  : Lavf61.7.100<br>
ErrorDetectionType                       : Per level 1<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Video<br>
ID                                       : 1<br>
Format                                   : FFV1<br>
                                                  Format
                                                  version                          
                                                  : Version 3.4<br>
                                                  Format settings, Slice
                                                  count             : 4
                                                  slices per frame<br>
                                                  Codec
                                                  ID                                
                                                  : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC /
                                                  FFV1<br>
Duration                                 : 10 s 0 ms<br>
                                                  Bit rate
                                                  mode                           
                                                  : Variable<br>
                                                  Bit
                                                  rate                                
                                                  : 46.1 Mb/s<br>
Width                                    : 720 pixels<br>
Height                                   : 576 pixels<br>
                                                  Display aspect
                                                  ratio                    
                                                  : 5:4<br>
                                                  Frame rate
                                                  mode                         
                                                  : Constant<br>
                                                  Frame
                                                  rate                              
                                                  : 50.000 FPS<br>
                                                  Color
                                                  space                             
                                                  : YUV<br>
                                                  Chroma
                                                  subsampling                      
                                                  : 4:2:2<br>
                                                  Bit
                                                  depth                               
                                                  : 8 bits<br>
                                                  Scan
                                                  type                               
                                                  : Progressive<br>
                                                  Compression
                                                  mode                        
                                                  : Lossless<br>
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.225<br>
                                                  Stream
                                                  size                             
                                                  : 55.0 MiB (95%)<br>
                                                  Writing
                                                  library                         
                                                  : Lavc61.19.101 ffv1<br>
Default                                  : No<br>
Forced                                   : No<br>
                                                  Color
                                                  range                             
                                                  : Limited<br>
coder_type                               : Golomb Rice<br>
ErrorDetectionType                       : Per slice<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Audio<br>
ID                                       : 2<br>
Format                                   : PCM<br>
                                                  Format
                                                  settings                         
                                                  : Little / Signed<br>
                                                  Codec
                                                  ID                                
                                                  : A_PCM/INT/LIT<br>
Duration                                 : 10 s 0 ms<br>
                                                  Bit rate
                                                  mode                           
                                                  : Constant<br>
                                                  Bit
                                                  rate                                
                                                  : 1 536 kb/s<br>
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels<br>
                                                  Sampling
                                                  rate                           
                                                  : 48.0 kHz<br>
                                                  Bit
                                                  depth                               
                                                  : 16 bits<br>
                                                  Stream
                                                  size                             
                                                  : 1.83 MiB (3%)<br>
                                                  Writing
                                                  library                         
                                                  : Lavc61.19.101
                                                  pcm_s16le<br>
Default                                  : No<br>
Forced                                   : No<br>
                                                </blockquote>
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                                                <br>
                                                As seen above the
                                                "default" Chroma
                                                subsampling  is yuv422p
                                                or 4:2:2 with Bit depth:
                                                8 bits<br>
                                                <br>
                                                As ffv1 seemingly also
                                                does support yuv422p10le
                                                ffmpeg, I wonder if
                                                yuv422p is limited by
                                                the input from HDMI
                                                capture/AV converter?<br>
                                                Can possibly yuv422p10le
                                                possibly be achieved by
                                                adding -pix_fmt 10 og
                                                similar syntax to the
                                                ffmpeg line?<br>
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                                        <div dir="auto">you can try 
                                          different -input_format, but I
                                          suspect 10bit video over v4l2
                                          at best uncommon ... While
                                          hdmi itself supports 10bit
                                          digital signal, I suspect 
                                          non-pro capture devices
                                          usually limited to 8bit?</div>
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                                <div dir="auto"><a
href="https://git.ffmpeg.org/gitweb/ffmpeg.git/blob/HEAD:/libavdevice/v4l2-common.c"
                                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://git.ffmpeg.org/gitweb/ffmpeg.git/blob/HEAD:/libavdevice/v4l2-common.c</a></div>
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                                <div dir="auto">I can't see 10bit yuy2
                                  format listed here, so probably even
                                  if hw/driver support it ffmpeg will
                                  not ...</div>
                              </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <br>
                            Yes, It seems this also is the case. <br>
                            Even I got a few 10-bits "-input_format"
                            y210 and p210 accepted by ffmpeg, in both
                            cases the output format "defaulted" to the
                            same 'yuv422p'.<br>
                            What also surprised me, the filesizes at the
                            same time also was reduced to 77%<br>
                            <br>
                            du -sh *<br>
                            45M   
                            720x576_50fps_p210+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
                            45M   
                            720x576_50fps_y210+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
                            58M   
                            720x576_50fps_yuyv422+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">I guess they 10 bit but 4:2:0
                      subsampling?</div>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
                <br>
                Noop, according to mediainfo all have <br>
                <br>
                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">Color
                  space                              : YUV<br>
                  Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2<br>
                  Bit depth                                : 8 bits<br>
                </font></div>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">But this is *after* they left ffmpeg ;)</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">All those auto-inserting filters may cut input
          stream according to that user specified, and then expand it
          back, but with less info, so lossless file will be smaller
          ....</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">just idea, not proven.</div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    =================<br>
    <br>
    I continue testing now with my Sony HDR-FX7E HDV 1080i50 camcorder,
    currently using only the camera Enhanced Image processor (EIP) via
    HDMI out.<br>
    That is not HDV tape (MPEG-2) playback yet as mentioned above.<br>
    <br>
    v4l2-ctl -V<br>
    Format Video Capture:<br>
        Width/Height      : 1920/1080<br>
        Pixel Format      : 'YUYV' (YUYV 4:2:2)<br>
        Field             : None<br>
        Bytes per Line    : 3840<br>
        Size Image        : 4147200<br>
        Colorspace        : sRGB<br>
        Transfer Function : Rec. 709<br>
        YCbCr/HSV Encoding: ITU-R 601<br>
        Quantization      : Default (maps to Limited Range)<br>
        Flags             : <br>
    <br>
    NB! v4l2 discovers the camcorder FX7 EIP's (Enhanced Imaging
    Processor) FHD capability<br>
    <br>
     ------------<br>
    <br>
    ffmpeg -hide_banner -f v4l2 -list_formats all -i /dev/video0<br>
    <br>
    [video4linux2,v4l2 @ 0x561a655c36c0] Raw       :     yuyv422
    :           YUYV 4:2:2 : 1920x1080 1600x1200 1360x768 1280x1024
    1280x960 1280x720 1024x768 800x600 720x576 720x480 640x480<br>
    [in#0 @ 0x561a655c3400] Error opening input: Immediate exit
    requested<br>
    Error opening input file /dev/video0.<br>
    <br>
    1) First encoding test:<br>
    -----------------------------------<br>
    ffmpeg -hide_banner -f v4l2 -input_format yuyv422 -video_size
    1920x1080 -framerate 50 -i /dev/video0 -f alsa -ac 2 -i
    hw:CARD=UHD,DEV=0 -c:v ffv1 -level 3 -c:a pcm_s16le -t 10
    1920x1080_50fps_yuvy422+alsa_pcm_ffv1-3.mkv<br>
    <br>
    resulted i output file with 8-bit yuv422p as previously<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    2) Second encoding test:<br>
    ----------------------------------------<br>
    I specified 'y210' as both input format and as output pixel format.<br>
    ffprobe below show this interestingly created a 10-bit "yuv422p10le"
    output file as I wanted, and with a bit larger file size than first
    test without output pixel_format filter!<br>
    <br>
    I wonder if this is better or a "fake" 10-bit color format?<br>
    and wants comments to what really happends here:<br>
    <br>
    Is input via v4l2 a "raw camcorder video stream" that will be
    (re-)encoded to a ffv1.mkv video file format?<br>
    And does specifying -vf format=pix_fmts='y210' cause some extra
    re-encoding than without specifying this output filter in this case?<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    ffmpeg -hide_banner -f v4l2 -input_format y210 -video_size 1920x1080
    -framerate 50 -i /dev/video0 -f alsa -ac 2 -i hw:CARD=UHD,DEV=0 -c:v
    ffv1 -level 3 -vf format=pix_fmts='y210' -c:a pcm_s16le -t 10
    1920x1080_50fps_y210+alsa_pcm_ffv1-3.mkv<br>
    <blockquote>Input #0, video4linux2,v4l2, from '/dev/video0':<br>
        Duration: N/A, start: 337.518694, bitrate: 1658880 kb/s<br>
        Stream #0:0: Video: rawvideo (YUY2 / 0x32595559), yuyv422,
      1920x1080, 1658880 kb/s, 50 fps, 50 tbr, 1000k tbn<br>
      [aist#1:0/pcm_s16le @ 0x559f06e972c0] Guessed Channel Layout:
      stereo<br>
      Input #1, alsa, from 'hw:CARD=UHD,DEV=0':<br>
        Duration: N/A, start: 1746635575.463474, bitrate: 1536 kb/s<br>
        Stream #1:0: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s<br>
      Stream mapping:<br>
        Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (rawvideo (native) -> ffv1 (native))<br>
        Stream #1:0 -> #0:1 (pcm_s16le (native) -> pcm_s16le
      (native))<br>
      Press [q] to stop, [?] for help<br>
      [ffv1 @ 0x559f06e7e280] bits_per_raw_sample > 8, forcing range
      coder<br>
      Output #0, matroska, to
      '1920x1080_50fps_y210+alsa_pcm_ffv1-3.mkv':<br>
        Metadata:<br>
          encoder         : Lavf61.7.100<br>
        Stream #0:0: Video: ffv1 (FFV1 / 0x31564646), yuv422p10le(tv,
      progressive), 1920x1080, q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 50 fps, 1k tbn<br>
            Metadata:<br>
              encoder         : Lavc61.19.101 ffv1<br>
        Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le ([1][0][0][0] / 0x0001), 48000 Hz,
      stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s<br>
            Metadata:<br>
              encoder         : Lavc61.19.101 pcm_s16le<br>
      [out#0/matroska @ 0x559f06e97500] video:383046KiB audio:1875KiB
      subtitle:0KiB other streams:0KiB global headers:0KiB muxing
      overhead: 0.010893%<br>
      frame=  500 fps= 50 q=-0.0 Lsize=  384963KiB time=00:00:10.00
      bitrate=315361.7kbits/s speed=0.999x    <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    ---------------<br>
    <br>
    du -sh *.mkv<br>
    <blockquote>376M    1920x1080_50fps_y210+alsa_pcm_ffv1-3.mkv<br>
      374M    1920x1080_50fps_yuvy422+alsa_pcm_ffv1-3.mkv<br>
      -----<br>
      45M    720x576_50fps_p210+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
      45M    720x576_50fps_y210+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
      58M    720x576_50fps_yuyv422+alsa_ms2130_ffv1-3+pcm.mkv<br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    --------------------<br>
    <br>
    ffprobe -hide_banner 1920x1080_50fps_y210+alsa_pcm_ffv1-3.mkv<br>
    <br>
    Input #0, matroska,webm, from
    '1920x1080_50fps_y210+alsa_pcm_ffv1-3.mkv':<br>
      Metadata:<br>
        ENCODER         : Lavf61.7.100<br>
      Duration: 00:00:10.00, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 315361 kb/s<br>
      Stream #0:0: Video: ffv1 (FFV1 / 0x31564646), yuv422p10le(tv,
    progressive), 1920x1080, 50 fps, 50 tbr, 1k tbn<br>
          Metadata:<br>
            ENCODER         : Lavc61.19.101 ffv1<br>
            DURATION        : 00:00:10.000000000<br>
      Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1536
    kb/s<br>
          Metadata:<br>
            ENCODER         : Lavc61.19.101 pcm_s16le<br>
            DURATION        : 00:00:10.000000000<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    ============================<br>
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    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CA+rFky5n55COdNMPvyWzyLZUGB=9QdqKf+LxxFMTLPECp7P8ow@mail.gmail.com">
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              <div><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> <br>
                </font>By the way, I acknowledge this limit at the hand.<br>
                10-Bit Video is recommended for Analog Tape Transfer due
                to color shades and branding<br>
                <a
href="https://www.archivalworks.com/blog/10-bit-video-transfer"
                  target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.archivalworks.com/blog/10-bit-video-transfer</a><br>
                <br>
                But I expect also 8-bit 422 transfer to FFV1 opt for
                some better quality than the current 8-bit 420 DV25
                files (converted from PAL S-video) and the HDV.m2t
                backup files. <br>
                IMO direct playback of S-vdeo tapes has visual better
                brightness than the converted DV files. <br>
                It remains also to verify if playing 1080i50 HDV tapes
                via HDMI will be up-scaled to 422 and 720p, according to
                Steve Mullen' FX7 handbook. <br>
                <br>
                To continue I copy with from my old, initial post at<br>
                <a
href="https://www.mail-archive.com/cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org/msg05547.html"
                  target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.mail-archive.com/cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org/msg05547.html</a><br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Does all FFV1 level 3 versions work with lossless
                compression for 422 video?<br>
                <br>
                I have not yet found a definitiv ffmpeg FFV1 v 3 syntax
                guide for SD and HDV capturing and hope for suggestions
                and comments regarding the examples below:<br>
                <pre style="margin:0em"><font
                face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">3.1 FFmpeg recipe (PAL)

   ffmpeg -i VIDEO_IN \

       -c:v ffv1 -level 3 -coder 1 -context 0 -slices 24 -slicecrc 1 \
       -color_primaries bt470bg \
       -color_trc bt709 \
       -colorspace bt470bg \
       -color_range mpeg \
       -map 0 \
       -top 1 \
       -c:a copy \
       -g 1 -pix_fmt + \
       VIDEO_OUT.mkv


3.2 Reference Example
<a href="https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/FFV1#Examples"
                target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/FFV1#Examples</a>

    Copy audio "as-is" and use FFV1.3 as video codec.

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                    Parameters are 8 threads, coder=1, context=1,
                GOP-size=1, 24 slices and slice-CRC on:<font
                  face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><tt><br>
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                  </tt></font>
                <pre style="margin:0em"><font
                face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">    ffmpeg -i <input_video>     \
        -acodec   copy          \
        -vcodec   ffv1 -level 3 \
        -threads  8             \
        -coder    1             \
        -context  1             \
        -g        1             \
        -slices  24             \
        -slicecrc 1             \
        <output_video>


3.3 Various Encoding examples for Video capture from USB camera /dev/video0:

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                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">ffmpeg -f
                  v4l2 -framerate 25 -video_size 720x576 -i /dev/video0
                  output_data.mkv ffmpeg -f v4l2 -framerate 25
                  -video_size 720x576 -i /dev/video0 -codec:v ffv1
                  -codec:a pcm_s16le \ <br>
                      -f matroska  output_video.mkv </font><br>
                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> <br>
                  <br>
                  Check that video is captured properly using ffplay: <br>
                  <br>
                  ffmpeg -ar 44100 -thread_queue_size 1024 -f alsa -i
                  $AUDIO \     -r 25 -thread_queue_size 1024 -i $VIDEO \
                      -codec copy -f matroska  - | ffplay <br>
                  <br>
                </font><br>
                - Check the overall flow using ffplay before capturing:
                <br>
                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><br>
                  ffmpeg -ar 44100 -thread_queue_size 1024 -f alsa -i
                  $AUDIO \     -itsoffset -0.5 -r 25 -thread_queue_size
                  1024 -i $VIDEO \ <br>
                      -filter_complex 'channelmap=FL-0' -filter_complex
                  'crop=w=700:h=556:x=8:y=0' \ <br>
                      -map 1:v  -map 0:a -codec:v ffv1 -codec:a
                  pcm_s16le \     -f matroska  - | ffplay -</font><br>
                <br>
                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><br>
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                </font><br>
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                    <div dir="auto">why we can't have both ;) I mean, it
                      all depend on hw, and now board wired ... If there
                      was relatively popular capture board I am sure
                      someone tried to push core linux kernel bits
                      upstream ...</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">but hw design is harder than it
                      looks.</div>
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                                        <div dir="auto">But of course
                                          you better to doublecheck what
                                          v4l2 tools says ...</div>
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                            So far no other  pixel formats found:<br>
                            <br>
                            v4l2-ctl -V <br>
                            Format Video Capture:<br>
                                Width/Height      : 720/576<br>
                                Pixel Format      : 'YUYV' (YUYV 4:2:2)<br>
                                Field             : None<br>
                                Bytes per Line    : 1440<br>
                                Size Image        : 829440<br>
                                Colorspace        : sRGB<br>
                                Transfer Function : Rec. 709<br>
                                YCbCr/HSV Encoding: ITU-R 601<br>
                                Quantization      : Default (maps to
                            Limited Range)<br>
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                                        <div dir="auto">Sorry for "too
                                          generic" answer, few years ago
                                          I/we looked into "direct RF
                                          capture" and there getting
                                          10bit signal was possible,
                                          with custom hardware, slow
                                          offline processing and
                                          invasive hoockup to VCR's
                                          internals.</div>
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                            Similar I bought and captured a few
                            ProRes422 HQ few files in 2016 with
                            Blackmagic Design's HyperDeck Shuttle+AD
                            miniconverter+SSD recorder.<br>
                            But some years later, BMD's fw support
                            became EOL, and the devices became
                            non-working :(<br>
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