[Cin] Clips/Nested clips/Xml - new feature - best thing since sliced bread!

Sam cinelerra at posteo.de
Thu Dec 26 01:36:16 CET 2019

Absolutely fantastic! I have been wishing for this feature for so long, 
but due to his long wish list I did not dare to say.
This feature is the basis for several timelines. I miss the timeline 
feature in Cinelerra for a long time. If you agree, I would like to make 
some suggestions on this topic for January. This EDL feature can be 
extended relatively easily in my opinion.


On 25.12.19 05:59, Phyllis Smith wrote:
> With the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is included with 
> your project as Clips, Nested Clips, or Xml.  For example, if you have 
> a nested clip that originally had several plugins added to it before 
> it was nested, you can edit those plugin parameter values.  Previously 
> to make any changes to these EDL clips/nested clips, you had to remake 
> the whole clip from scratch.  This is done via "Open EDL" and button 
> click as described below by the ****.
> In addition a couple of modifications related to this are noticeable 
> to include the following:
>   - in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the wording which was 
> "Nest" is now "Nest to Media"
>   - in the Clip folder, when you actually perform "Nest to Media", the 
> nested clip is only displayed in the Media folder
> for example:
> 1) load some test media, mode replace project
> 2) highlight a selection and press create clip.  add notes and press 
> ok. clip is created
> 3) in resources window, open the clip folder.  clip1 is present
> 4) select clip1 and right mouse the item.  select menu item Open EDL
> 5) timeline changes to just the clip content.
> 6) add a visible effect, like burning tv and press the [1] in the main 
> menu bar.
> 7) timeline is restored to original media.
> 8) drag the clip from the resources folder to the timeline.  The 
> effect is visible.
> **** - in the Clip folder, there is a new option to "Open EDL" for the 
> highlighted clip.  When you choose this option, the clip will be 
> brought up on the timeline. *VERY IMPORTANT to note*, the previous 
> timeline EDL is "pushed onto a stack" (this is programmer talk) so it 
> is remembered and to get back to that you have to "pop the stack" 
> (more programmer talk) by clicking on the button in the upper right 
> hand corner of the timeline above where the Proxy switch button would 
> be. Usually this button will read 1 if you choose "Open EDL" and then 
> 0 when back to your original timeline.  You can go several levels deep 
> so instead of 1, it could be 2, 3, ... but I got to tell you that you 
> can get lost if you overdo it. Once the clip is open on the timeline, 
> you can edit it however you want.
>   - in the Media folder, once you have nested a clip, the Nested clip 
> will be located here
>   - in the Media folder, the option to unnest the clip is now called 
> "EDL to clip" which results in the nested clip being reverted to a 
> clip and back into the clip folder with only a name of "Clip #".  The 
> nested clip is also still in the Media folder.
>   - in the Media folder, you now have the new option to "Open EDL" as 
> described for clips above.  But in this case when you Open EDL and 
> edit the changes, those changes will take affect on any and all 
> occurrences of that nested clip on the timeline.
> I will make a demo later.  There are Debian 9/10 static tars that 
> contain this and other mods in the Download / Documentation / File 
> Storage at cinelerra-gg.org <http://cinelerra-gg.org>.  Would be happy 
> to make static tars for any other usual distro/version if you would 
> like to test early.
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