[Cin] Audio Visual Application plain Format (BD-R/RE AV) for home video on Blu-ray discs

Terje J. Hanssen terjejhanssen at gmail.com
Fri Nov 20 15:47:16 CET 2020

Den 20.11.2020 00:31, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
> В сообщении от Friday 20 November 2020 01:07:14 Terje J. Hanssen 
> написал(а):
>> Den 19.11.2020 18:50, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
>>> В сообщении от Thursday 19 November 2020 19:11:49 Terje J. Hanssen 
>>> via Cin написал(а):
>>>> Back in 2016/2017 I rendered a 1080i hdv.m2t clip to BDAV, burned it on
>>>> a standard BD-RE disc and then could playback it as a 16:9 Blu-ray 
>>>> video
>>>> in a Samsung Ultra Blu-ray player.
>>>> https://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/pipermail/cinelerra/2017q1/005830.html
>>>> What I wonder is if also the following features are possible in Cin-GG
>>>> (bdwrite and/or tsMuxer, ffmpeg tools):
>>>> I think you are right about DV (dvvideo) on blu-ray as mentioned in 
>>>> standard, but how many players implement this is open question .....
Yes, I've also thougt about this.

CyberLink says "BDAV is a video recording format that is compatible with 
all Blu-ray Disc players" (?)
At least it seems Sony and Pioneer Blu-ray players have support for BDAV 
discs beside BDMV.

Sony says simply copying the movie file on to a disc using a computer is 
not sufficient for playback. You have to create a DMV, BDAV or BDMV 
format disc using a disc creation software.

I thought plain BDAV discs could be fine to preserve original HD/HDV 
clips and optional SD DV video without need to transcode it, and for 
playback this format on HDTV or PC..
For this purpose, simple, fast collecting clips, with clip info but 
without menus, would be just fine, comparable with BD-R/RE recorders or 
even old Video Tape recorder/player.

The problem is I haven't found any BDAV structure to download and test 
if i.e Samsung Blu-ray players support it.
Does indeed the current CGG bdwriter use BDAV disc structure, but needs 
to render? If so, it lacks the option to get hdv and dv video files 
without transcrode onto the BDAV discs structure?

I don't know it, but it seems i.e Premiere Pro Online has m2ts native 
(BDAV, NTSC/PAL) imprt support, and can create BDAV formats using 
TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC

Terje J. H

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