[Cin] Looking into minimal alternative Shortcuts

Phyllis Smith phylsmith2017 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 7 18:50:16 CEST 2020

Haldun, I was really intrigued by the "HeLLo EvEryBoDy" and laughed about
your explanation.
If you look in the File pulldown, "Save as" uses the shortcut of "Shift-S"
which here in the United States is the capital S.  But actually "Save as"
is probably just as good as "Save" so your work will be "saved (pun
intended)" in either case.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 10:02 AM Haldun ALTAN via Cin <
cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:

> HeLLo EvEryBoDy,
> Well the upper and lowercases are in purpose :)
> It happened to me to be not aware of being on uppercase and hit "S"
> instead of "s" and didn't realise it.
> Normally it's not a probleme if you don't have any crash in the mean time.
> Otherwise it depends on how often you save :)
> Is it an issue if we can use "s" regardless upper or lower case ?
> If it is nevermind.
> Otherwise, maybe putting a warning or something like "Did you mean "s" or
> anything else could be usefull.
> Haldun.
> Le 07/09/2020 à 16:25, Phyllis Smith via Cin a écrit :
> Georgy, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for stating what we should not be "doing
> something because that is what everyone else does".  Because if we all did
> everything the same then we would all be driving Volkswagens instead of
> driving what makes the most sense for us.  We are only looking into the
> possibility of providing a workaround for mostly new users as it is already
> such a large learning curve to use Cinelerra.
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 5:42 AM Georgy Salnikov via Cin <
> cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Sep 2020, Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux via Cin wrote:
>> > As Igor indicates, I also think that a single option to save would be
>> > better, it could be like that.
>> >
>> > Save         s or Ctrl-s
>> > > Undo         z or Ctrl-z
>> I would say, it is quite usual for a complex professional program (not
>> some
>> kind of Office or web browser which uses everybody, but a program which
>> performs some rather particular task) - to have its own set of shortcuts.
>> Such a set of shortcuts may be chosen not from the reasons of similarity
>> to
>> that of MS-Office or whatever, but from the reasons of conveniency and
>> effectiveness of working with **this particular program**!
>> For example, I have to use a program CCPNMR, to do a very complex process
>> of
>> NMR signals assignment in big organic molecules. The shortcut for 'Save'
>> in
>> this program is not 's', and not 'Ctrl-s', but surprisingly 'Shift-S'!
>> To me, what for one must press two keys, Ctrl and 's', or Ctrl and 'z', if
>> it is possible to press a single key 's' or 'z'? OK, it is not acceptable
>> for a text processor, where 's' and 'z' means insert the corresponding
>> letter, but why not for a video or photo editor where one does not input
>> letters?
>> I'd say, a possibility to configure different sets of shortcuts could look
>> beautiful, but definition of shortculs most similar to that used in office
>> software should not be a goal of highest priority...
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