[Cin] arm/disarm track confusion

Igor BEGHETTO igorbeg at visi1.org
Mon Aug 9 09:20:08 CEST 2021

Ohoo my God!

AndrePaz wrote:
> Moreover, if we
> want to implement the standard behavior of Cinerella, so that an
> unarmed track is never modified whether it is visible or not, we must
> be sure that it is a separate function from the current Gang modes,
> creating a new type of gang and explaining very well its function,
> because the risk of confusion is great and the subject is already
> complicated.
AndreaPaz, it sound strange to me you are speaking so.
If an User want the Cinelerra-GG standard behaviour for the 
Armed/Disarmed track She/He can use GANG None!
No separateor new function is needed because it is already there: GANG 
None. And in the Manual_20210731 section 5.2.1 (Displaying tracks: 
Ganged mode) is written very well:
*1. Gang None: this is the default mode and is the traditional way 
Cinelerra operates. If you never toggle the "Gang Tracks" button, 
everything operates normally as it always has.*
For default a new user will find Cinelerra-GG in "Gang None" mode. If an 
User press the GANG button (and other buttons) without reading the 
Manual and without know what She/He am doing, I am sorry, Cinelerra-GG 
is not for you.

I use all the GANG modes for save space and other, without any problem. 
May be my workflow is different from yours.

AndreaPaz wrote:
> Patches 3, 0004 and 0005 (I
> haven't tried this one yet) should be part of a new Gang mode (Gang
> arm? Gang Cin? Gang Std?).
Andrew_R wrote:
> yes, and then try to play with new preference in  .bcast5/Cinelerra_rc:
> .... there is no propagation to preferences currently, but if you or 
> someone else thinks such 'mode 4' can be useful I'll monkey around in 
> code some more... 

I hope NO. Here, both Andrew_R and AndreaPaz, you are messing things up 
(I hope the English traduction is right).
Pleeease, don't touch things that works very well. Thank you!

Andrew_R wrote:
> may be it can be done.. you mean just gang (link) mode between all 
> edits on video + all edits on few selectable audio tracks? so you can 
> move them as group AND  this group become immune to media/clip insert 
> and immune to its  components sliding around in this mode? or 
> something else?

It is already there! You can move more tracks together Arming that tracks!
You can see it at 
If you want to group the edits in different track it is written very 
well in the Manula_20210731, section 5.5.4  (Grouping edits) and so on. 
You can see that at 
http://www.visi1.org/cinelerra-gg_tutorials#DragAndDropEditing (old 
video tutorial).

I think that many of you read the Manual but many don't. An User who 
want to use Cinelerra-GG or Cinelerra MUST READ the manua! The community 
will help in the forum or other places. There is no point in changing 
the code when it works fine! Or add a no sense function!

Sorry for that long sentences. I think so. I think I'll get out of this 

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