[Cin] Debate on batch render

[Andrew Randrianasulu]

В сообщении от Tuesday 12 January 2021 03:27:41 Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux via Cin написал(а):
> Thanks Andrew, I don't know how to deactivate these buttons, and it's not
> my place to deactivate them either, I simply recommend from my experience
> to improve Cinelerra and make it interesting and without kamikaze functions.

Well, at the beginning I also know nothing about this particular codebase :}
Try to look at code and guess what line does this or that .... comment it out, recompile, try to launch ....



> I have Audacity 2.4.2 backport from Debian upstream running perfectly on
> Linux Mint 19.3, the only drawback is that the Calf effects interfaces are
> not graphically pretty, but I don't care, they work just as well with its
> retro-style interface from the late 90s.

:}

Yeah, sometimes binary distributions are fine, but mostly when someone already solved little things like ....

https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=105237
https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=104224
(I hit error related to re-building right in source tree, instead of 'build' directory)

The I realized portaudio was patched in Ubuntu/Debian etc:

https://portaudio.music.columbia.narkive.com/rju8OHIE/pa-getstreamhostapitype

then I realized audacity will not link until you apply

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/media-sound/audacity/files/audacity-2.3.3-Fix-building-against-system-portaudio.patch

:}

so, a lot of adventuring, but at least you can see CinGG is not only software using custom/patched libs ...

> I don't know what distribution you use, and I'm sure you know 1000 times
> more about this than I do, but just in case, the repositories that have
> allowed me to have Audacity 2.4.2 working perfectly are the ones on this
> website:
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ubuntu/audacity
> 
> El lun, 11 ene 2021 a las 23:51, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin (<
> cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:
> 
> > В сообщении от Tuesday 12 January 2021 00:57:48 Rafa Mar Multimedia en
> > Gnu\Linux via Cin написал(а):
> > > I have forwarded this valuable information to you, and I hope it is not
> > too
> > > late.
> > > I understand that a programmer likes to play with the code and do
> > wonders,
> > > but you should consider that a video application is focused on people who
> > > are NOT computer scientists and that their knowledge is very basic.
> >
> > Well, unlike closed-source applications you also can disable (at least)
> > buttons you do not like
> > _locally_. Yes, such patch may create inconvience later on, if there will
> > be changes in this  area upstream.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm puzzled by another crash (Audacity 2.3.3 crash on launch, while
> > 2.3.2 works ?! on my system),
> > so I'm a bit distracted from CinelerraGG hacking right now ....
> >
> >
> > > And
> > > these options "cheat" rather than facilitate the work they make it
> > > difficult. The audiovisual technicians must be given the simple tools. I
> > do
> > > not know of any application that I work with in my audiovisual
> > professional
> > > field that has the ability to step on a backup by user interaction.
> > > To justify this I would tell you an anecdote that happened during the
> > > production of "Finding Nemo" by Andrew Stanton at Pixar. But I think I
> > bore
> > > you with my long writings and I don't see an initiative to correct these
> > > "traps" that Cinelerra contains. Rather the opposite, a strong attitude
> > in
> > > maintaining them.
> > > Perhaps it could be done as in Kdenlive, Adobe etc.., which after a
> > sudden
> > > shutdown at the next start gives the option to recover the file that was
> > > being worked with. But I usually go to practicality and if something is
> > not
> > > useful I eliminate it, I think that eliminating these options (also the
> > > batch render option) is easier than making special menus for them or
> > what I
> > > just mentioned from kdenlive, which is usually what What applications do
> > > after a sudden shutdown.
> > > Anyway, thank you very much for the information, I know that some time
> > ago
> > > you mentioned this about the backup, but I did not remember very well
> > what
> > > it was like, and this user I suppose that when he wrote to me he would
> > have
> > > already done tests that they will have overwritten this .prev file
> > > Greetings Phyllis.
> > >
> > > El lun, 11 ene 2021 a las 21:56, Phyllis Smith via Cin (<
> > > cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:
> > >
> > > > RafaMar:
> > > >
> > > >> gave the option "Save backup" instead of "Load backup" and the poor
> > man
> > > >> was desperate wondering if there was any way to get his work back,
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > from the Manual, section 4.4.3:
> > > >
> > > > *"There is still 1 more backup that may save you. If for some reason
> > you
> > > > forgot to use Load backup immediately when restarting or you did a Load
> > > > with Replace current project in your current session, you have a second
> > > > chance to use File → Load and select $HOME/.bcast5/backup.prev as long
> > as
> > > > you only loaded a different file and have performed no editing
> > operations."*
> > > >
> > > > I just tested this to verify that it works as stated.
> > > >
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