[Cin] Debate on batch render

Tue Jan 12 09:13:56 CET 2021

Thanks again Andrew. I hardly know how to add a repository and if it
doesn't work or doesn't work correctly I go back to the previous one.
Regards.

El mar, 12 ene 2021 a las 2:40, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin (<
cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:

> В сообщении от Tuesday 12 January 2021 03:27:41 Rafa Mar Multimedia en
> Gnu\Linux via Cin написал(а):
> > Thanks Andrew, I don't know how to deactivate these buttons, and it's not
> > my place to deactivate them either, I simply recommend from my experience
> > to improve Cinelerra and make it interesting and without kamikaze
> functions.
>
> Well, at the beginning I also know nothing about this particular codebase
> :}
> Try to look at code and guess what line does this or that .... comment it
> out, recompile, try to launch ....
>
>
>
> > I have Audacity 2.4.2 backport from Debian upstream running perfectly on
> > Linux Mint 19.3, the only drawback is that the Calf effects interfaces
> are
> > not graphically pretty, but I don't care, they work just as well with its
> > retro-style interface from the late 90s.
>
> :}
>
> Yeah, sometimes binary distributions are fine, but mostly when someone
> already solved little things like ....
>
> https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=105237
> https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=104224
> (I hit error related to re-building right in source tree, instead of
> 'build' directory)
>
> The I realized portaudio was patched in Ubuntu/Debian etc:
>
>
> https://portaudio.music.columbia.narkive.com/rju8OHIE/pa-getstreamhostapitype
>
> then I realized audacity will not link until you apply
>
>
> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/media-sound/audacity/files/audacity-2.3.3-Fix-building-against-system-portaudio.patch
>
> :}
>
> so, a lot of adventuring, but at least you can see CinGG is not only
> software using custom/patched libs ...
>
> > I don't know what distribution you use, and I'm sure you know 1000 times
> > more about this than I do, but just in case, the repositories that have
> > allowed me to have Audacity 2.4.2 working perfectly are the ones on this
> > website:
> > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ubuntu/audacity
> >
> > El lun, 11 ene 2021 a las 23:51, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin (<
> > cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:
> >
> > > В сообщении от Tuesday 12 January 2021 00:57:48 Rafa Mar Multimedia en
> > > Gnu\Linux via Cin написал(а):
> > > > I have forwarded this valuable information to you, and I hope it is
> not
> > > too
> > > > late.
> > > > I understand that a programmer likes to play with the code and do
> > > wonders,
> > > > but you should consider that a video application is focused on
> people who
> > > > are NOT computer scientists and that their knowledge is very basic.
> > >
> > > Well, unlike closed-source applications you also can disable (at least)
> > > buttons you do not like
> > > _locally_. Yes, such patch may create inconvience later on, if there
> will
> > > be changes in this  area upstream.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I'm puzzled by another crash (Audacity 2.3.3 crash on launch,
> while
> > > 2.3.2 works ?! on my system),
> > > so I'm a bit distracted from CinelerraGG hacking right now ....
> > >
> > >
> > > > And
> > > > these options "cheat" rather than facilitate the work they make it
> > > > difficult. The audiovisual technicians must be given the simple
> tools. I
> > > do
> > > > not know of any application that I work with in my audiovisual
> > > professional
> > > > field that has the ability to step on a backup by user interaction.
> > > > To justify this I would tell you an anecdote that happened during the
> > > > production of "Finding Nemo" by Andrew Stanton at Pixar. But I think
> I
> > > bore
> > > > you with my long writings and I don't see an initiative to correct
> these
> > > > "traps" that Cinelerra contains. Rather the opposite, a strong
> attitude
> > > in
> > > > maintaining them.
> > > > Perhaps it could be done as in Kdenlive, Adobe etc.., which after a
> > > sudden
> > > > shutdown at the next start gives the option to recover the file that
> was
> > > > being worked with. But I usually go to practicality and if something
> is
> > > not
> > > > useful I eliminate it, I think that eliminating these options (also
> the
> > > > batch render option) is easier than making special menus for them or
> > > what I
> > > > just mentioned from kdenlive, which is usually what What
> applications do
> > > > after a sudden shutdown.
> > > > Anyway, thank you very much for the information, I know that some
> time
> > > ago
> > > > you mentioned this about the backup, but I did not remember very well
> > > what
> > > > it was like, and this user I suppose that when he wrote to me he
> would
> > > have
> > > > already done tests that they will have overwritten this .prev file
> > > > Greetings Phyllis.
> > > >
> > > > El lun, 11 ene 2021 a las 21:56, Phyllis Smith via Cin (<
> > > > cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > RafaMar:
> > > > >
> > > > >> gave the option "Save backup" instead of "Load backup" and the
> poor
> > > man
> > > > >> was desperate wondering if there was any way to get his work back,
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > from the Manual, section 4.4.3:
> > > > >
> > > > > *"There is still 1 more backup that may save you. If for some
> reason
> > > you
> > > > > forgot to use Load backup immediately when restarting or you did a
> Load
> > > > > with Replace current project in your current session, you have a
> second
> > > > > chance to use File → Load and select $HOME/.bcast5/backup.prev as
> long
> > > as
> > > > > you only loaded a different ﬁle and have performed no editing
> > > operations."*
> > > > >
> > > > > I just tested this to verify that it works as stated.
> > > > >
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