[Cin] Debate on batch render

[Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux]

@Andrew Randrianasulu thank you very much, a batch render window like the
one in the image you just attached would be perfect. This is what is really
expected of a Batch render wizard, that it is simple and without options
that can destroy your work by a single unfortunate click. Thank you very
much for getting involved in improving the user experience and making the
Cinelerra GG editor more secure.

@Igor the only thing I can tell you is that I would never use an assistant
that can ruin my work and with options that give errors, which have even
motivated the opening of tickets due to malfunctions.

What we could do is two versions of batch render, one for normal people who
do not like to complicate their lives or play with fire and another for
suicides who maybe losing their job can cause great joy, but this It is not
my case, so I continue to bet on making an assistant for normal people that
does not carry unnecessary risks for their video projects.

P.S. I am having a hard time convincing people to use Cinelerra, yesterday
a user had a sudden shutdown, I quoted something around here ... the last
message from him says like this.
Thank you very much Rafa, I do not doubt that Cinelerra is very
professional and following your recommendations and tutorials I decided to
try it, but I am a simple amateur and perhaps it is my fault for not having
save regularly, as you always recommended in the kdenlive tutorials . I
tried the method you told me, but unfortunately I was getting a blank
project, like when I open Cinelerra before loading a project. I really
appreciate your help. I think that due to being an amateur with little
knowledge, it is better that I continue using Kdenlive, that despite its
errors thanks to your tutorials I manage to make my videos satisfactorily
and if it closes by mistake then it simply reopens my work without losing
much of it. (there is more message but this is the most important)

And here the question now is, is it really the fault of this bad experience
is a novice user, or these pitfall options that ruin your work? I believe
that the problem is the options that should not exist in a serious
application, so that it can be used by both amateurs and professionals.

At the moment Cinelerra seems to me to be a wonderful editor and the work
that GG did with it is admirable, but not everything can be perfect and
from my point of view dangerous options such as those that Andrew has
removed in the batch render and this option to save the copy Security
should be removed to avoid situations that frustrate users.

Greetings to all the people who are participating in this debate.

El mar, 12 ene 2021 a las 10:51, Igor BEGHETTO via Cin (<
cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:

> My quickly reply.
> I read all this long debate and the igor_ubuntu's article in his blog
> about "Batch Render".
> I think that the problem is How many users use that features?
> I don't use them but, maybe, somebody yes, as I always said in MantisBT;
> then you can not decide if delete/hide a function that is used (?) by
> other users, I think. Would be better that a modal window, with a
> warning, came out before overwrite a project? Yes.
>
> I think that a user can do a test on a short video/project (or create a
> backup for your own important works) before going on some feature like
> Batch Rendering, and reading the Manual: many people are doing a lot of
> work to write it.
>
> I would like to know how many people use this and that function, so a
> developer can make the right thing, if he is not a filmaker/editor.
>
> IgorBeg
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