[Cin] two more english tips?

Fri Jan 22 11:47:12 CET 2021

> There might be typo at very last line ("manual inline.")
> Do you mean "online manual" ?

Yes, I sent just written without reviewing, you are absolutely right, I
have corrected this and some other little things, I am forwarding you the
corrected version.

It really still needs to be corrected by Phyllis.

Do you think a "help" button in the wizard to open this guide is a good
idea? This would make the use of this tool very easy for any new user.
This button could be at the bottom, next to the close button and its text
could be a simple "?" Icon.

The files I have written with LibreOffice 6.0.7.3. I notice that Google
Docs does not respect layout very well.

I will try to do an automatic translation in Russian, and I will send you
the result, so it will only be necessary to correct a few small
questions. Greetings
and thanks for your excellent work with Cinelerra GG.

 Quik start batch render (en).pdf
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/18NnTeZXmYn9_GJ8_SxcTZknh33v9AuwE/view?usp=drive_web>

 Quik start batch render (en).odt
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EjRmiM0_Dms-fs-J19_7MEWPhthOa-Jd/view?usp=drive_web>

El vie, 22 ene 2021 a las 11:26, Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux (<
rafamar.mm.ig at gmail.com>) escribió:

> Sorry the previous shipments are not correct, now I make sure I have sent
> you the correct ones.
>
> El vie, 22 ene 2021 a las 11:23, Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux (<
> rafamar.mm.ig at gmail.com>) escribió:
>
>> > There might be typo at very last line ("manual inline.")
>> > Do you mean "online manual" ?
>>
>> Yes, I sent just written without reviewing, you are absolutely right, I
>> have corrected this and some other little things, I am forwarding you the
>> corrected version.
>>
>> Do you think a "help" button in the wizard to open this guide is a good
>> idea? This would make the use of this tool very easy for any new user.
>> This button could be at the bottom, next to the close button and its text
>> could be a simple "?" Icon.
>>
>> The files I have written with LibreOffice 6.0.7.3. I notice that Google
>> Docs does not respect layout very well.
>>
>> I will try to do an automatic translation in Russian, and I will send you
>> the result, so it will only be necessary to correct a few small questions. Greetings
>> and thanks for your excellent work with Cinelerra GG.
>>
>>
>>
>> El vie, 22 ene 2021 a las 10:54, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin (<
>> cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:
>>
>>> В сообщении от Friday 22 January 2021 12:41:18 Rafa Mar Multimedia en
>>> Gnu\Linux via Cin написал(а):
>>> > > I think problem may be  exactly in this - we see selection, but no
>>> > specific
>>> > > signal (generated when we *change* selection) sent yet, so whole
>>> function
>>> > send
>>> > > down empty string, and ffmpeg class not prepared for this ....
>>> >
>>> > I am useless for the code, I am sorry I cannot help, I can only think
>>> of
>>> > the option that the first time FFMPEG is chosen the extension box is
>>> empty,
>>> > that the user sees it empty, without content, this will force him to
>>> choose
>>> > the extension, or at least the error will not reference the .mp4 file.
>>> >
>>> > Another solution I can think of is to change mp4 to an extension that
>>> is
>>> > not usual today, simply to force the user to change it.
>>>
>>> I think this may affect normal rendering too (because they use same
>>> code!)
>>> But something to test more ....
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Anyway, in the guide that I have written to facilitate the
>>> understanding of
>>> > the tool, I recommend clicking on mp4 the first time the wizard is
>>> used to
>>> > avoid this error. I sent it to you in case you want to translate in
>>> > Russian. I would love to know Russian, it is a language that has always
>>> > been pleasant to the ear.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I'm very bad at translating even few pages of documentation :{
>>>
>>> I think you did excellent work on making this document,
>>> THANK YOU A TON!
>>>
>>> There might be typo at very last line ("manual inline.")
>>> Do you mean "online manual" ?
>>>
>>> >
>>> > El vie, 22 ene 2021 a las 8:51, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin (<
>>> > cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:
>>> >
>>> > > В сообщении от Friday 22 January 2021 05:42:55 Rafa Mar Multimedia en
>>> > > Gnu\Linux via Cin написал(а):
>>> > > > > I saw this error, and tried to combat it ... no results so far :/
>>> > > >
>>> > > > the extension box empty, to force the user to put the desired
>>> extension
>>> > > > there?
>>> > >
>>> > > I think problem may be  exactly in this - we see selection, but no
>>> specific
>>> > > signal (generated when we *change* selection) sent yet, so whole
>>> function
>>> > > send
>>> > > down empty string, and ffmpeg class not prepared for this ....
>>> > >
>>> > > Again, a lot of functions (re)used in different places, so fixing
>>> this a
>>> > > bit harder than
>>> > > just sticking one value in one file.
>>> > > Or at least this file might be not that one ...
>>> > >
>>> > > > ----
>>> > > > Quik start batch render (en).
>>> > > >
>>> > > > El jue, 21 ene 2021 a las 23:44, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin (<
>>> > > > cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > В сообщении от Thursday 21 January 2021 23:48:55 Rafa Mar
>>> Multimedia en
>>> > > > > Gnu\Linux via Cin написал(а):
>>> > > > > > I was referring to a "first steps" guide in English, you call
>>> it
>>> > > "Quick
>>> > > > > > Start". Today the time that I allot every day to write
>>> Cinelerra
>>> > > > > tutorials
>>> > > > > > I am going to dedicate to making an example of what I mean. The
>>> > > manual is
>>> > > > > > very good, but there are people who when they see so much text
>>> get
>>> > > > > scared.
>>> > > > > > :-D
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > I do not know if you saw the error that I reported about the
>>> first
>>> > > time
>>> > > > > it
>>> > > > > > is used and it is intended to export in mp4. Perhaps the
>>> solution
>>> > > would
>>> > > > > be
>>> > > > > > as simple as choosing FFMPEG that the extension box is empty,
>>> to
>>> > > force
>>> > > > > the
>>> > > > > > user to put the desired extension there.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I saw this error, and tried to combat it ... no results so far :/
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > I am going to make this example pdf and send it to you in an
>>> email,
>>> > > along
>>> > > > > > with the .odt file.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Also the es.po file in which I had to make an exception in
>>> using
>>> > > > > lowercase
>>> > > > > > of a term, because people are used to seeing the shortcuts in
>>> > > uppercase
>>> > > > > and
>>> > > > > > a user has notified me that accessing the tags was not working
>>> and
>>> > > that
>>> > > > > it
>>> > > > > > was opening a clips window... and this is because he confused
>>> the (
>>> > > l )
>>> > > > > > (lowercase letter L) with the ( I ) (uppercase i).
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > El jue, 21 ene 2021 a las 21:10, Phyllis Smith via Cin (<
>>> > > > > > cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > I have reworded these tips and hope to check them in today
>>> (+ the
>>> > > > > > > transition fixes of Andrew).
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > I keep thinking, is it possible to add a button (Help) that
>>> opens a
>>> > > > > short
>>> > > > > > >> pdf about the use of this tool?
>>> > > > > > >> I could make this pdf, with very little text and explicit
>>> images
>>> > > on
>>> > > > > how
>>> > > > > > >> to use it. It really is very unintuitive, but I think that
>>> any
>>> > > user
>>> > > > > with a
>>> > > > > > >> few lines is going to take advantage of this tool.
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> A future goal was to hook up the HTML form of the manual
>>> for help
>>> > > via
>>> > > > > > > the "h" key.  That would take you right to:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > >
>>> https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Batch_Rendering.html
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