[Cin] offtopic: Digitize and record Video with A/D USB adapters

[Terje J. Hanssen]

Excuse my smartphone typing:
Hu
Andrew wrote:

> AVerMedia CE310B (Chipset: Conexant CX23888)
> Requires kernel version 4.19.106, 5.4.22, 5.5.6, or later.


> from

> https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/POWER9_Hardware_Compatibility_List/PCIe_Devices#Video_Capture_Cards

> if you follow link to manufacturer's site it will say device support
uncompressed (4:2:2) capture..

> a bit more expensive (~100$) and requires pci-e slot... but cheap usb
devices tend to be cheap on all fronts.


Yes, AVerMedia CE310B looks very interesting as a dedicated SD capture
card for analog composite and S-Video.

It also looks to come at a more affordable price than the somewhat
similar Blackmagic Decklink cards and SDK that I posted a request for
on the Cin forum previously

https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/it/forum/forum-hardware/declink-video-capture-and-playback-cards-and-software/


I think there also is space for a PCIe on my workstations mobo, MSI
Z170A/Skylake-i7.

My current Leap 15.3 includes kernel 5.3.18. Optional my dualboot
Tumbleweed currently looks to come with kernel 5.14.5/5.14.6.


But, there is always a but, so excuse my questions ;)

Reading the CE310B description, specs an datasheet, I noticed the
following points:


Q1)

Linux driver coming soon?

Q2)

SDK download useable for Linux?

Q3)

With Linux V4L2 framework it supports "third party software". What
about typical free video tools and software on Linux like VLC, OBS,
ffmpeg and CGG?

Q4)

CE310B support uncompressed AVI or WMV format which are MS Windows
propriary format. What about Linux options here to i.e pipe
uncompressed 422 video via FLAC lossless compression ?


Thanks,

Terje





man. 27. sep. 2021, 13:50 skrev Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:

> A previous article also using Easy Cap
>
> https://gordonlesti.com/digitize-a-vhs-tape-with-ffmpeg-and-easycap-on-linux/
>
> Another similar usb video converter, "Cleantt" on Amazon, mentioned as
> Linux compatible
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Converter-Capture-Support-Android/dp/B07QFVNSYJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=free+drive+usb+video+capture+card+with+support+for+linux&qid=1632603850&sr=8-5#immersive-view_1632603916288
>
> And in another, more recent article Jancane A/D video usb adapter is rated
> as the best among 10 (linux not mentioned)
> https://geekydeck.com/best-usb-analog-video-capture/
>
>
> https://www.audiointerfaces.net/jancane-usb-2-0-audio-video-converter-video-capture-card-digitizes-video-from-any-analog-source-including-vcr-vhs-dvd/
>
> But I haven't yet seen any a/d usb 2.0 adapter that documents something
> "better quality" record format than mpegs (possibly DV25) compression.
>
> What I really want is some kind of 4:2:2 sampling rate documented, like
> i.e DV50 or other. Neither USB 3.0 adapters is found, which possibly is
> neccessary for 4:2:2 FLAC lossless compression?
>
> Comments and other options or suggestions are welcome to clarify the
> latter :;
>
>
> Terje
>
>
>
>
>
> søn. 26. sep. 2021, 00:32 skrev <mnieuw at zap.a2000.nl>:
>
>> Yep, something like that, I think the make I used was Easycap.
>>
>> MatN
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 23:26:27 +0200
>> "Terje J. Hanssen via Cin" <cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Something like this?
>> > USB 2.0 Audio/Video Converter - Digitize and Edit Video from Any
>> > Analog Source Including VCR, VHS, DVD
>> >
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XJKSJZ8/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_DYWFFDKH9ZJY6G1NTTKF
>> >
>> >
>> > My tape sources are Hi8 and S-VHS, that is S-Video quality between
>> > VHS and DV.
>> >
>> > (Also I backed up some music from my old reel tape recorder to "HiFi"
>> > HQ VHS tapes 20 years ago). Og
>> > And I got a working Sony Hi8 tape deck and a Panasonic S-VHS deck on
>> > eBay a few years ago, as players beside my still working Sony Hi8
>> > camcorder.
>> >
>> > Terje
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > lør. 25. sep. 2021, 21:37 skrev Terje J. Hanssen
>> > <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > > Nothing would be better than if this can be done via Cin-gg
>> > >
>> > >
>> https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Transfer_VHS_DVD_Media_or_V.html
>> > >
>> > > Terje
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > lør. 25. sep. 2021, 16:52 skrev Terje J. Hanssen
>> > > <terjejhanssen at gmail.com
>> > > >:
>> > >
>> > >> Although I have and have used some Black Magic external tools for
>> > >> this, I'm also interested in simple and low cost options for Linux
>> > >> workstations.
>> > >>
>> > >> In a recent article the Augustin VGB100 usb2.0 video adaper and
>> > >> VLC was used to record video
>> > >> https://www.arsouyes.org/en/blog/2021/2021-05-17_Numerisation_VHS
>> > >>
>> > >> Any experience here with similar A/D video adapters, quality and
>> > >> applications for recording on Linux?.
>> > >>
>> > >> Second I wonder if some lossless, compressed master video format is
>> > >> available for better quality before final converting with typical
>> > >> ffmeg?
>> > >>
>> > >> And third, maybe a stupid question:
>> > >> Is it possible to record just Audio with an A/D Video adapter,
>> > >> which audio record format and what quality, compared with a pure
>> > >> Audio adapter? And if so, can audio record applications like
>> > >> Audiacity be used?
>> > >>
>> > >> Terje
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>>
>>
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