[Cin] Not all blu-ray disk are the same ...
Terje J. Hanssen
terjejhanssen at gmail.com
Tue Dec 27 01:57:34 CET 2022
Den 26.12.2022 23:01, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
> https://superuser.com/questions/879216/how-to-determine-whether-blu-ray-disc-is-htl-or-lth
>
>
> lists two methods one with cdrecord + internet, another one using imgburn
>
> ===
>
> Here's the best way I've found:
>
> 1.
>
> Determine the manufacturer code and media type of the media. On
> Linux, I used |cdrecord|
> <http://cdrtools.sourceforge.net/private/cdrecord.html> |dev=XXX
> -atip | grep -i 'manufacturer\|media type'|, where |XXX| is the
> code for the Blu-ray burner as listed by |cdrecord -scanbus|.
>
This give me an opportunity to discuss certain reported issues with
access privilegies from K3b/Cdrecord.
I have also reported this as a possible K3b build bug to openSUSE
bugzilla a couple of weeks ago
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1206384
Suggestions are welcome how to troubleshoot and get rid of them, as they
can be part of or main cause to my burning/disc problem. !?
cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.02a09 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
Copyright (C) 1995-2016 Joerg Schilling
cdrecord: Insufficient 'file read' privileges. You will not be able
to open all needed devices.
cdrecord: Insufficient 'file write' privileges. You will not be able
to open all needed devices.
cdrecord: Insufficient 'device' privileges. You may not be able to
send all needed SCSI commands, this my cause various unexplainable
problems.
cdrecord: Insufficient 'network' privileges. You will not be able to
do remote SCSI.
cdrecord: No access. Cannot open '/dev/sg0'. Cannot open or use SCSI
driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure
you are root.
cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 -atip | grep -i 'manufacturer\|media type'
cdrecord: Insufficient 'file read' privileges. You will not be able
to open all needed devices.
cdrecord: Insufficient 'file write' privileges. You will not be able
to open all needed devices.
cdrecord: Insufficient 'device' privileges. You may not be able to
send all needed SCSI commands, this my cause various unexplainable
problems.
cdrecord: Insufficient 'network' privileges. You will not be able to
do remote SCSI.
scsidev: '/dev/sr0'
devname: '/dev/sr0'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Manufacturer: 'VERBAT'
Media type: 'IM1'
Just now K3b/Cdrecord seems to not even write to more BD-RE DL discs :(
The above messages are also part of the current debugging output from
K3b included here (sorry for the length):
Devices
-----------------------
HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.02 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM,
DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE, DVD+R,
DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer
Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted
Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer,
CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, BD-ROM, BD-R Sequential (SRM), BD-R Random
(RRM), BD-RE] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P,
RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump, Random Recording,
Sequential Recording, Sequential Recording + POW] [%7]
System
-----------------------
K3b Version: 21.12.3
KDE Version: 5.90.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel: 5.14.21-150400.24.38-default
Used versions
-----------------------
cdrecord: 3.2a09
cdrecord
-----------------------
cdrecord: Insufficient 'file read' privileges. You will not be able
to open all needed devices.
cdrecord: Insufficient 'file write' privileges. You will not be able
to open all needed devices.
cdrecord: Insufficient 'device' privileges. You may not be able to
send all needed SCSI commands, this my cause various unexplainable
problems.
cdrecord: Insufficient 'network' privileges. You will not be able to
do remote SCSI.
scsidev: '/dev/sr0'
devname: '/dev/sr0'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
SCSI buffer size: 64512
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.02a09 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
Copyright (C) 1995-2016 Joerg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.
Driveropts: 'burnfree'
atapi: 1
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 5
Response Format: 2
Capabilities :
Vendor_info : 'HL-DT-ST'
Identifikation : 'BD-RE BH10LS30 '
Revision : '1.02'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM.
Current: BD-RE
Profile: BD-ROM
Profile: BD-R sequential recording
Profile: BD-R random recording
Profile: BD-RE (current)
Profile: DVD-RAM
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording
Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording
Profile: DVD-R/DL layer jump recording
Profile: DVD-RW sequential recording
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite
Profile: DVD+RW
Profile: DVD+R
Profile: DVD+R/DL
Profile: DVD-ROM
Profile: CD-R
Profile: CD-RW
Profile: CD-ROM
Profile: Removable Disk (current)
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 BD-RE driver (mmc_bdre).
Driver flags : NO-CD BD MMC-3 BURNFREE
Supported modes: PACKET SAO LAYER_JUMP
Drive buf size : 2031616 = 1984 KB
Drive pbuf size: 3850240 = 3760 KB
Drive DMA Speed: 17771 kB/s 100x CD 12x DVD 3x BD
FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data 39383 MB
Total size: 39383 MB = 20164288 sectors
Current Secsize: 0
Capacity Blklen/Sparesz. Format-type Type
24438784 36864 0x00 Unformated or Blank Media
23652352 24576 0x00 Reserved (0)
23259136 2048 0x01 Reserved (0)
23652352 24576 0x30 Reserved (0)
23259136 36864 0x30 Reserved (0)
24307712 4096 0x30 Reserved (0)
24438784 2048 0x31 Reserved (0)
Format was needed.
Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 2 in real FORMAT mode for
single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write in 3 seconds.
2 seconds.
1 seconds.
0 seconds. Operation starts.
Formatting media
operation 0% done
=== last message repeated 29 times. ===
Formatting time: 61.464s (00:01:01.464)
Condition not caught: capacity_not_set.
cdrecord command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/sr0 speed=2 -sao
driveropts=burnfree -data -tsize=20164288s -
> 1.
>
> Look up the manufacturer and media type codes at
> http://www.blu-raydisc.info/licensee-list/discmanuid-licenseelist.php .
> The table on that site identifies "recording type" (i.e. HTL or
> LTH) and also write speed from these codes.
>
> === quote end====
>
> site worked when I clicked on link.
>
> Apparently LTH should be marked due to their bad compatibility with
> earlier drives, but .... reality is less stellar :(
A quick look in the tables it seemed for me that all 50GB BD-R/RE DL
discs use "HTL" recording type.
>
> and in imgburn
>
> ====
>
> With image burning software. ImgBurn <http://www.imgburn.com/> for
> instance.
>
> In Imgburn main menu just click on anything writing related. For
> example, "Write image file to disc"
>
> Now a new window pops up
>
> Please check that you have the correct burner selected in the left
> hand side, if you have more than one disc burner.
>
> Scroll down on the right pane, and you find the info under "Recorded
> Mark Polarity"
>
> ====
>
>
> HTL is apparently more durable....
>
> Terje posted link to Canadian site and I did little search on my own
>
> https://www.pcworld.com/article/423607/hard-core-data-preservation-the-best-media-and-methods-for-archiving-your-data.html
> (from 2016)
>
> to be honest I newer heard about HTL vs LTH when it comes to BDs....
>
> I found some ASUS drive in my city, so *may be* I'll have some means
> to test real disks in new year.
>
>
Many articles recommend to keep three types of media for archiving
stored on at least two locations to spread the risk.
For camcorded video this envolves for me
1. keep the source media (tape cassettes)
2. a digitized version on portable expansion USB3 discs
3. and on optical Blu-ray data discs and playable BD-video discs.
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