[Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Terje J. Hanssen
terjejhanssen at gmail.com
Mon Feb 20 01:05:34 CET 2023
Den 19.02.2023 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
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> Den 19.02.2023 18:59, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>> вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 20:39 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>> Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>>> вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:43 Terje J. Hanssen
>>> <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>>> Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>>>> вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
>>>> <cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:
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>>>> IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a
>>>> standard connection to transfer native DV and HDV video
>>>> files to Lin/Win/Apple computers.
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>>>> * FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via
>>>> dvgrab, vlc, guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or
>>>> directly via some NLE systems.
>>>> * The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and
>>>> was mentioned in the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2
>>>> * http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5
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>>>> * ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using
>>>> libiec61883 (Streamcopy) seems also interesting.
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>>>> On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is
>>>> seemingly not compiled with --enable-libiec61883.
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>>>> Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled
>>>> libiec61883 via Cin-GG?
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>>>> http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883
>>>> http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz
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>>>> I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing
>>>> and Recording Media", but could not see Firewire media
>>>> transfer was mentioned. However, in the Appendice
>>>> section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages
>>>> is found:
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>>>> --with-firewire use firewire (auto)
>>>> --with-dv use dv (auto)
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>>>> Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is
>>>> supported or optional can be configured?
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>>>> it was not tested in ages .....
>>>> guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look
>>>> at output of cingg's configure .... then connect device and
>>>> try to set capture device to iec* ....
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>>> I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab again
>>> (tested it once several years ago), when my camcorder is
>>> back from service.
>>> The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder
>>> seemingly is dead.
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>>> well, you can look if appimage version of cingg was compiled
>>> with those libraries
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>> Could you possibly outline how to do it?
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>> in preferences -> recording tab there must be source named IEC 61883.
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> To cross-check I translate back from my local Norwegian version to
> English:
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> Settings | Settings | Preferences window:
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> Video In / Record driver
> In the dropdown menu there are available both
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> * DV 1394
> * IEC 61883
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As reference also the following from Cin-CV's wiki and from Raffael's
Howto (Cinelerra for Grandma):
http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:installation#toc1
Firewire
Firewire is the fastest way to download material into your system.
Unless you will be importing your media from a CD, any other
pre-captured format or use an analog video grabber, you will need
firewire on your system.
DV cameras
There is an large variety of DV cameras that can be used with
Cinelerra. Almost any camera that can connect using firewire will work.
Be sure to set the appropriate parameters on the video grabbing system
to match your particular camera.
http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_how_to_capture_video_from_your_minidv_camcorder
http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_using_the_command_line_dvgrab
How to capture video from your miniDV camcorder /Using the Command Line
- dvgrab
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>> I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab on
>> CinCVS/Skolelinux mailing list and the referenced manual wiki:
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>> https://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg13022.html
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>> https://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg06183.html
>> http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:tips#26
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>> 21.12.2 Grabbing HDV from camcorder
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>> There is no perfect solution so far. One possibility is to
>> run the test-mpeg2 command available with the sources of
>> *libiec61883*. Use this syntax:
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>> |test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg|
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>> and press *Play* on the camcorder. You should not run any
>> heavy resources consuming task on your computer since the
>> lack of caching in test-mpeg2 causes frame drops.
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>> New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV. Minimal example:
>> Syntax:
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>> |dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip|
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>>> , but I am guessing (from bug
>>> https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=590 ) you
>>> might run into troubles trying to record exactly HDV stream -
>>> because it is not DV video, but mpeg2. There is code in DVB
>>> input module for dealing with this, but it probably must be
>>> wired to DV /firewire module, or something like this should be
>>> used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding compressed buffer:
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>>> https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commit/0ff51f4c53e17ff33701e8cc1096de33a87313b9
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>>>> Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively
>>>> https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html
>>>> https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/
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>>>> Terje J. H
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