[Cin] dvdcreate and filempeg patches
Terje J. Hanssen
terjejhanssen at gmail.com
Sun Jun 11 14:58:03 CEST 2023
Den 09.06.2023 16:40, skrev Phyllis Smith:
> It is good the way you have it. Before the patch, when progressive
> media was input and the Deinterlace box was NOT checked, "mediainfo"
> always displayed "Interlaced, Top Field First". Mediainfo is not
> always 100%.
>
Phyllis;
In comparision, how is the video detected with
ffmpeg -filter:v idet
http://www.aktau.be/2013/09/22/detecting-interlaced-video-with-ffmpeg/
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 8:12 AM Andrew Randrianasulu
> <randrianasulu at gmail.com> wrote:
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> пт, 9 июн. 2023 г., 15:43 Andrew Randrianasulu
> <randrianasulu at gmail.com>:
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> чт, 8 июн. 2023 г., 21:43 Phyllis Smith <phylsmith2017 at gmail.com>:
>
> Andrew, after many, many runs and actual DVD media
> creation with these patches in, I am almost certain that
> all is working well and now there is the choice of
> creating BFF media. So answer to question of "do you
> still get interlaced" is "YES" as far as I can tell. Here
> are some of the results / differences seen when use
> "mediainfo":
>
> 1) GOP, Open/Closed : Open
> -------------------> Before
> GOP, Open/Closed of first frame : Closed
> -------------------> Before
> GOP, Open/Closed : Closed
> -------------------> After is just this 1 line which makes
> sense
> 2) Scan type is a little confusing though:
> Before -----> it always read Interlaced for all,
> whether or not the Deinterlace box was checked or not
> After ------> if Deinterlace box is checked, it reads
> Interlace
>
>
> I think it should be set to Progressive if deinterlace checked
> ....
>
> Sorry, back to double-checking my logic ..
>
>
> It seems with m2ts source and deinterlace on I get this mpeg2enc line:
>
> Running
> /data/data/com.termux/files/home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin//mpeg2enc
> -v 0 -b 8000 -q 1 -a 2 -F 3 -H -c -I 0 -M 8 -f 8 -g 15 -G 15 -R 0
> -o '/data/data/com.termux/files/home/tmp/dvd_20230609-161131/dvd.m2v'
>
> no "-z" , also "I" equals zero
>
> but mediainfo still says:
>
> Scan type : Progressive
> Scan order : Top Field First
>
> yet ffprobe says
>
> Input #0, mpegvideo, from
> '/data/data/com.termux/files/home/tmp/dvd_20230609-161131/dvd.m2v':
> Duration: N/A, bitrate: N/A Stream #0:0: Video:
> mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv, bt470bg, progressive), 720x576 [SAR
> 16:15 DAR 4:3], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 1200k tbn
> Side data:
> cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 8000000/0/0 buffer size: 1835008
> vbv_delay: N/A
>
> I was dumb I selected pal 4:3 instead of pal 16:9 in dvd master ....
>
> So, may be this is bug (o-feature) in mediainfo?
>
> Anyway, those parameters can be changed if you click on wrench
> icon on video (mpeg) stream in second-stage window where batch
> files already set up.
>
>
>
>
> After ------> if Deinterlace box is NOT checked, it
> reads Interlace IF input is interlaced BUT Progressive if
> input media is not interlaced.
> Does the above make sense? (I think I stated it correctly).
>
> In the DVD media I tested on a really old non-digital TV
> with a DVD player, the BFF media looked about the same as
> the TFF media, even when original media was BFF or TFF.
> But the old TV was so bad looking, that I am not sure it
> was a good test.
>
> Playing Interlaced DVD media on a new digital TV with a
> DVD player, looked decent but that is probably due to the
> software in the digital TV.
>
> Playing DVD media on a new digital TV where the original
> input was interlaced and CinGG had the Deinterlace box
> checked, did result in some small jagged areas but mostly
> visible only when stop or step.
>
> RECOMMENDATION: if not editing the input media so you do
> not need an NLE, i.e. CinGG, probably should refer to
> ffmpeg, dvdauthor, or those forums that apply direct
> copies of media exclusively for creating DVDs.
>
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> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 5:49 PM Phyllis Smith
> <phylsmith2017 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Can you clarify even with my patches AND
> deinterlacing checkbox set in dvd creation window
> and "use ffmpeg" unchecked you still get interlaced?
>
> Confusing results that I did not consider. I will
> thoroughly investigate "before and after" tomorrow and
> let you know what is happening. (I should have done
> this earlier).
>
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