[Cin] Gmail and Mailing List

Phyllis Smith phylsmith2004 at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 10 17:15:56 CET 2023

In reading Google's https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126?hl=en on this issue, I submitted a request to have them stop blocking our email.   From that url reference, it states the requirement for SPF or DKIM is for new senders rather than existing ones.  See quote below

"Important: Starting November 2022, new senders who send email to personal Gmail accounts must set up either SPF or DKIM. Google performs random checks on new sender messages to personal Gmail accounts to verify they’re authenticated. Messages without at least one of these authentication methods will be rejected or marked as spam. This requirement doesn’t apply to you if you’re an existing sender. However, we recommend you always set up SPF and DKIM to protect your organization’s email and to support future authentication requirements."

Also, I "think" we do have DKIM implemented (their note says SPF OR DKIM) if I interpret further down on the "Original Message Header" where it says:
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=tC7A9s8TYaZ/CGSJrVYNtkOfA1/MYvlOmV3tooyZOs4=; 
But anyway, I will see if I can figure out how to implement SPF like they suggest.  A lot of the things I am trying to do is quite difficult for me and beyond my skill set.   ...Phyllis

    On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:56:53 AM MST, Georgy Salnikov via Cin <cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:  
 On Fri, 10 Mar 2023, Andrea paz via Cin wrote:

> Do you know a way to set gmail to recognize our mailing list? I don't
> know how to do it.

Andrea, it is because of DMARC authentication failure, see mail headers:

Return-Path: <cin-bounces at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>
Authentication-Results: nioch.nioch.nsc.ru; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=lists.cinelerra-gg.org
Authentication-Results: nioch.nioch.nsc.ru; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=cin-bounces at lists.cinelerra-gg.org (client-ip=
Received: from lists.cinelerra-gg.org (v22018103128575622.happysrv.de [])
X-Received-SPF: none receiver=nioch.nioch.nsc.ru client-ip= envelope-from=<cin-bounces at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>

@lists.cinelerra-gg.org has neither its own DKIM nor DNS SPF record.

Either the admin of the @lists.cinelerra-gg.org mail server has to implement
generation of DKIM signatures and attaching them to emails submitted from
this mailing list,

Or the admin of the lists.cinelerra-gg.org DNS domain has to add the proper
SPF records to the DNS zone file.

Only the corresponding admin can do that, for us, users, this is not

Georgy Salnikov
NMR Group
Novosibirsk Institute of Organic Chemistry
Lavrentjeva, 9, 630090 Novosibirsk, Russia
Phone  +7-383-3307864
Email  sge at nmr.nioch.nsc.ru

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