[Cin] Clips/Nested clips/Xml - new feature - best thing since sliced bread!
Igor BEGHETTO
igorbeg at visi1.org
Sat Dec 28 11:00:24 CET 2019
I always use Nesting feature, for more complex projects, like showed in
the my old screencasts.
https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2019-September/001051.html
And in the CinelerraGG_manual_WorkInProgress (well done) in 5.7.8
section you can find more information.
https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_manual_WIP.pdf
Yes, if you update one, or more Sequences, the Master Project is not
update with the last changes that you had done on them, but you can
re-load the updated Sequences and overwrite them in the Timeline if you
work with method. (And I use, or better, I used also Proxy with Nested)
I am speaking about, before the last changes; I only saw the Phyllis' Demo.
IgorBeg
Il 28/12/2019 8.52, Haldun ALTAN ha scritto:
>
> Hello,
>
> I don't know if i get this right or wrong but i already worked with
> several timelines in cinelerra.
>
> They were, in your exemple, "intro", "part 1", "part 2", "credits" and
> each of it in was in a seperate project that you could put together by
> only copy and paste, from one project to another.
>
> Is the différence is they are now in the same project ?
>
> Haldun.
>
> Le 28/12/2019 à 00:41, Sam a écrit :
>>
>> One of the greatest strengths of commercial NLEs is the ability to
>> work with multiple timelines.
>>
>> Why work with multiple timelines?
>>
>> A movie project can be divided into several sections such as intro,
>> main part 1, main part 2 and credits.
>>
>> From this I make four timelines called Intro, Part 1, Part 2, Credits.
>>
>> This splits the whole movie project into four parts and allows faster
>> working in the main window, because not the whole movie project is
>> loaded in the main window, but only a quarter of the movie. This
>> speeds up the work a lot and allows other contributors to work on
>> different parts of a film project and finally add them together and
>> make an overall coordination.
>>
>> When the intro, main part 1, main part 2 and the credits are
>> finished, these timelines are joined together to form an overall
>> timeline.
>>
>> A new timeline called Composition is created and Timeline Intro,
>> Timeline Part 1, Timeline Part 2 and Timeline Credits are dragged
>> into it.
>>
>> Basically this feature is an extension of the EDL feature.
>>
>> I created the photomontage very fast and therefore they have a lot of
>> potential for improvement. The final solution can of course look
>> completely different, the pictures only serve to illustrate my idea.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> On 26.12.19 03:12, Phyllis Smith wrote:
>>> Never hurts to make suggestions -- sometimes things get done when an
>>> unexpected need arises here.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 5:36 PM Sam <cinelerra at posteo.de
>>> <mailto:cinelerra at posteo.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Absolutely fantastic! I have been wishing for this feature for
>>> so long, but due to his long wish list I did not dare to say.
>>> This feature is the basis for several timelines. I miss the
>>> timeline feature in Cinelerra for a long time. If you agree, I
>>> would like to make some suggestions on this topic for January.
>>> This EDL feature can be extended relatively easily in my opinion.
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> On 25.12.19 05:59, Phyllis Smith wrote:
>>>> With the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is included
>>>> with your project as Clips, Nested Clips, or Xml. For example,
>>>> if you have a nested clip that originally had several plugins
>>>> added to it before it was nested, you can edit those plugin
>>>> parameter values. Previously to make any changes to these EDL
>>>> clips/nested clips, you had to remake the whole clip from
>>>> scratch. This is done via "Open EDL" and button click as
>>>> described below by the ****.
>>>>
>>>> In addition a couple of modifications related to this are
>>>> noticeable to include the following:
>>>> - in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the wording which
>>>> was "Nest" is now "Nest to Media"
>>>> - in the Clip folder, when you actually perform "Nest to
>>>> Media", the nested clip is only displayed in the Media folder
>>>>
>>>> for example:
>>>> 1) load some test media, mode replace project
>>>> 2) highlight a selection and press create clip. add notes and
>>>> press ok. clip is created
>>>> 3) in resources window, open the clip folder. clip1 is present
>>>> 4) select clip1 and right mouse the item. select menu item
>>>> Open EDL
>>>> 5) timeline changes to just the clip content.
>>>> 6) add a visible effect, like burning tv and press the [1] in
>>>> the main menu bar.
>>>> 7) timeline is restored to original media.
>>>> 8) drag the clip from the resources folder to the timeline.
>>>> The effect is visible.
>>>>
>>>> **** - in the Clip folder, there is a new option to "Open EDL"
>>>> for the highlighted clip. When you choose this option, the
>>>> clip will be brought up on the timeline. *VERY IMPORTANT to
>>>> note*, the previous timeline EDL is "pushed onto a stack" (this
>>>> is programmer talk) so it is remembered and to get back to that
>>>> you have to "pop the stack" (more programmer talk) by clicking
>>>> on the button in the upper right hand corner of the timeline
>>>> above where the Proxy switch button would be. Usually this
>>>> button will read 1 if you choose "Open EDL" and then 0 when
>>>> back to your original timeline. You can go several levels deep
>>>> so instead of 1, it could be 2, 3, ... but I got to tell you
>>>> that you can get lost if you overdo it. Once the clip is open
>>>> on the timeline, you can edit it however you want.
>>>>
>>>> - in the Media folder, once you have nested a clip, the
>>>> Nested clip will be located here
>>>> - in the Media folder, the option to unnest the clip is now
>>>> called "EDL to clip" which results in the nested clip being
>>>> reverted to a clip and back into the clip folder with only a
>>>> name of "Clip #". The nested clip is also still in the Media
>>>> folder.
>>>> - in the Media folder, you now have the new option to "Open
>>>> EDL" as described for clips above. But in this case when you
>>>> Open EDL and edit the changes, those changes will take affect
>>>> on any and all occurrences of that nested clip on the timeline.
>>>>
>>>> I will make a demo later. There are Debian 9/10 static tars
>>>> that contain this and other mods in the Download /
>>>> Documentation / File Storage at cinelerra-gg.org
>>>> <http://cinelerra-gg.org>. Would be happy to make static tars
>>>> for any other usual distro/version if you would like to test early.
>>>>
>>>>
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