[Cin] 2 little issue

Mon Feb 1 23:52:34 CET 2021

My friend is having a lot of patience with me, today he gave me some good
advice, but let's focus on Cinelerra GG

I have forwarded this chain of emails to you. Here is his response.

$CIN_BROWSER is a variable that just calls firefox.

What happens if a person does not have firefox installed on their system?
All the links that use $CIN_BROWSER will not work, they will do nothing.

Do the test, go to the folder "/usr/bin" with administrator permissions and
change the name to firefox, with a period behind it is enough.

Now open Cinelerra from a terminal and try to open the commands you
mentioned that work with $CIN_BROWSER, the result will be something like
this:
/bin/bash: firefox: command not found

Now open the wizard that I made the button for and click, it is true that
if you do not have another browser on your system, it will ask you with
which application you want to open this file, or open it in an html editor,
or in a text editor.

In this specific case, when calling a local html file, if someone has
assigned the opening of this type of file to another application, it will
be this application that will open it. When this happens it is because the
person is a programmer or works in web development environments, do not
worry that he will know how to find the pdfs.

I am not the right person to waste time making a button that satisfies the
quirks of a user who does not want the help file to open in their default
browser and has to be opened in Firefox no matter what. (I already told you
what happens if firefox is not installed in the system)

If anyone doubts what his revered $CIN_BROWSER variable really does, check
the file.inc file at lines 45-46-47 and see what application it calls. I
already anticipate that it is not enough to change this here, it is not
that simple, but it is something that I would do, because if you do not
have firefox Cinelerra it will fail in its calls to links with $CIN_BROWSER

Don't worry about the [Parent] [RunMessage] error, any competent programmer
or SysAdmin of Gnu/Linux knows that it is not of the slightest importance,
and that more than an error it is a simple warning that does not affect to
the stability or performance of Cinelerra.
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After your answer two things have become very clear to me, $CIN_BROWSER is
no better than xdg-open, it is simply an variable that should be modernized.

$CIN_BROWSER only works with firefox, xdg-open does not force you to have
firefox in order to get the Cinelerra links to work.
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His advice is I not to waste any more time on a project so full of veteran
users who believe they are proprietaries of the application and will do
everything possible to sink any idea that does not come from them, and much
more if it comes from a newcomer. Sadly, it is something very typical in
the opensource environment.

I'm going to heed his advice and take a break from Cinelerra.
Phyllis, you can still count on me for spanish translations, if you want,
otherwise, nothing happens, I will understand.

Here in Spain we say that there are two types of people, those who put oil
in the wheels so that they roll well and those who put sticks, to stop the
good work. I am one of those who try to put oil, I cannot be comfortable in
a team where there are people who dedicate themselves to putting sticks.

Greetings to everyone, especially Phyllis and Andrew, with whom I have
really enjoyed collaborating.

El lun, 1 feb 2021 a las 20:14, Phyllis Smith via Cin (<
cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:

> Walter,
>
> IMHO I prefer to use environment variables as it was before $ CIN_BROWSER,
>> since xdg-open, it opens the default browser, but and if I don't want it
>> to
>> open the default browser, whatever the reason, it seems more configurable
>> like
>> this now .
>>
>
> Hopefully we can find a solution that works for everyone.  Using
> $CIN_BROWSER caused a hang and that is why the switch to xdg-open.  As a
> reminder, the hang occurred only when no browser was up already and the ?
> help key in the Batch Render menu was clicked on -- then you could do no
> more Cinelerra processing.
>
> RafaMar,
>
> Thanks for the feedback and I know that your programmer acquaintance is
> too busy for in depth work.  And it is still very much appreciated!  I will
> see if I can find another solution because I really like the ? key.
> CinelerraGG programming really is much harder than anyone realizes and
> takes a long, long time to understand all of the intricacies and still
> problems creep in.
> --
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>
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