[Cin] 2 little issue

Walter Casanova wcasanova at disroot.org
Tue Feb 2 00:42:38 CET 2021

El lunes, 1 de febrero de 2021 19:52:34 -03 Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux via Cin 
> My friend is having a lot of patience with me, today he gave me some good
> advice, but let's focus on Cinelerra GG
> I have forwarded this chain of emails to you. Here is his response.
> $CIN_BROWSER is a variable that just calls firefox.
> What happens if a person does not have firefox installed on their system?
> All the links that use $CIN_BROWSER will not work, they will do nothing.
> Do the test, go to the folder "/usr/bin" with administrator permissions and
> change the name to firefox, with a period behind it is enough.
> Now open Cinelerra from a terminal and try to open the commands you
> mentioned that work with $CIN_BROWSER, the result will be something like
> this:
> /bin/bash: firefox: command not found
> Now open the wizard that I made the button for and click, it is true that
> if you do not have another browser on your system, it will ask you with
> which application you want to open this file, or open it in an html editor,
> or in a text editor.
> In this specific case, when calling a local html file, if someone has
> assigned the opening of this type of file to another application, it will
> be this application that will open it. When this happens it is because the
> person is a programmer or works in web development environments, do not
> worry that he will know how to find the pdfs.
> I am not the right person to waste time making a button that satisfies the
> quirks of a user who does not want the help file to open in their default
> browser and has to be opened in Firefox no matter what. (I already told you
> what happens if firefox is not installed in the system)
> If anyone doubts what his revered $CIN_BROWSER variable really does, check
> the file.inc file at lines 45-46-47 and see what application it calls. I
> already anticipate that it is not enough to change this here, it is not
> that simple, but it is something that I would do, because if you do not
> have firefox Cinelerra it will fail in its calls to links with $CIN_BROWSER
> Don't worry about the [Parent] [RunMessage] error, any competent programmer
> or SysAdmin of Gnu/Linux knows that it is not of the slightest importance,
> and that more than an error it is a simple warning that does not affect to
> the stability or performance of Cinelerra.
> -----------------------------
> After your answer two things have become very clear to me, $CIN_BROWSER is
> no better than xdg-open, it is simply an variable that should be modernized.
> $CIN_BROWSER only works with firefox, xdg-open does not force you to have
> firefox in order to get the Cinelerra links to work.
> -----------------------------
> His advice is I not to waste any more time on a project so full of veteran
> users who believe they are proprietaries of the application and will do
> everything possible to sink any idea that does not come from them, and much
> more if it comes from a newcomer. Sadly, it is something very typical in
> the opensource environment.
> I'm going to heed his advice and take a break from Cinelerra.
> Phyllis, you can still count on me for spanish translations, if you want,
> otherwise, nothing happens, I will understand.
> Here in Spain we say that there are two types of people, those who put oil
> in the wheels so that they roll well and those who put sticks, to stop the
> good work. I am one of those who try to put oil, I cannot be comfortable in
> a team where there are people who dedicate themselves to putting sticks.
> Greetings to everyone, especially Phyllis and Andrew, with whom I have
> really enjoyed collaborating.
> El lun, 1 feb 2021 a las 20:14, Phyllis Smith via Cin (<
> cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:
> > Walter,
> > 
> > IMHO I prefer to use environment variables as it was before $ CIN_BROWSER,
> > 
> >> since xdg-open, it opens the default browser, but and if I don't want it
> >> to
> >> open the default browser, whatever the reason, it seems more configurable
> >> like
> >> this now .
> > 
> > Hopefully we can find a solution that works for everyone.  Using
> > $CIN_BROWSER caused a hang and that is why the switch to xdg-open.  As a
> > reminder, the hang occurred only when no browser was up already and the ?
> > help key in the Batch Render menu was clicked on -- then you could do no
> > more Cinelerra processing.
> > 
> > RafaMar,
> > 
> > Thanks for the feedback and I know that your programmer acquaintance is
> > too busy for in depth work.  And it is still very much appreciated!  I
> > will
> > see if I can find another solution because I really like the ? key.
> > CinelerraGG programming really is much harder than anyone realizes and
> > takes a long, long time to understand all of the intricacies and still
> > problems creep in.
> > --
> > Cin mailing list
> > Cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org
> > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin

I really don't understand what happened here
but, I apologize, it could be that I was misunderstood. and more because my English is not 
very good. At no point have I wanted to impose my ideas, I only gave a humble opinion 
and I do not intend to change anything, only for a particular position.

when I talk about environment variables.
It's because GNU / linux users are generally used to doing and playing this, or at least 
most of it, and I don't think it's difficult to switch to .bashrc or zshrc.
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