[Cin] "CinGG Summer of Code" Ernest Ibarra disappointment/failure

Andrew Randrianasulu randrianasulu at gmail.com
Fri Apr 14 07:56:44 CEST 2023

пт, 14 апр. 2023 г., 06:33 Rob Prowel via Cin <cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:

> On 4/13/23 20:57, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
> >>> Last summer I put out an ad for a 10 week CinGG summer of code with the
> >>> title of "Linux / C++ beginner / student" with an enticement of $400
> each
> >>> week for compiling, execution of well outlined steps, and make mods to
> the
> >>> "burn" plugin to just add the gui variables.  I thought someone might
> like
> >>> the challenge and could put in a few hours each week (before and after
> >>> "aging" plugin gui mods would serve as a guideline).
> >>>
> >>> Response from Ernest Ibarra was "he was interested" and had a "Mac Pro
> >>> with Ubuntu and also had 3 years of C++ knowledge". Pointed him to the
> >>> Manual on how to build CinGG and he sent me a screenshot showing a
> built
> >>> version.  So I assumed he was able to do a build which would mean he
> had to
> >>> have done a compile??
> >>>
> >>> Ibarra was paid $400 a week for 4 weeks just to experiment with coding
> >>> but by the end of the 4th week he reported "having a really hard time
> >>> compiling" just the plugin.  I suggested he do a full compile with his
> >>> modifications in (since supposedly he had compiled the whole program at
> >>> least once, right?).
> >>>
> >>> Ernest Ibarra stopped replying to my emails after 4 weeks of PayPal
> >>> payments by June 28th. Finally on July 19th, after receiving another 2
> >>> weeks (total $2400) I asked Ibarra to send me the code that he could
> not
> >>> get to compile so I could compile it myself but never heard back.  BIG
> >>> DISAPPOINTMENT -- should not 3 years of C++ be enough for a competent
> >>> programmer to work on a very small part of Cinelerra? So I am closing
> BT
> >>> #62 as being a HUGE FAILURE -- at least with Ernest Ibarra.
> >>>
> I've been coding for 35+ years, and have even designed hardenned systems
> that run on spacefraft, and while my comment is in no way meant to
> disparage the folks who volunteer to code and fix cinGG, I wouldn't
> touch the codebase with a 10 foot pole in its current state.  It can
> loosely be defined as C++, but nothing in it is anywhere near modern C++
> best-practice coding, and internal documentation doesn't exist.

Well, feel free to try working with

for example. [or Openshot, they had new release  lately]. I am too curious
for *not* looking everywhere, so eventually it will find its way at least
back to mail list!

> only thing that keeps it chugging along are the countless hours of a few
> folks who have been into it long enough and deeply enough to know what
> is where.
> I'd be more inclined to say "did you learn your lesson?" to anyone who
> offered money to someone for cinGG coding updates.
> And FWIW, I know many 10-15 year software engineers who lack talent, but
> can continue to earn a living because qualitative productivity isn't
> valued anymore.
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