[Cin] HDV manual section need some work
Terje J. Hanssen
terjejhanssen at gmail.com
Sat Nov 5 13:39:55 CET 2022
Den 03.11.2022 22:13, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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> чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 21:28 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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> Den 03.11.2022 16:17, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>> чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 17:52 Terje J. Hanssen
>> <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>> Den 03.11.2022 01:42, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin:
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>>> чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 03:34 Andrew Randrianasulu
>>> <randrianasulu at gmail.com>:
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>>> чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 03:14 Andrew Randrianasulu
>>> <randrianasulu at gmail.com>:
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>>> I think we can add some clarification
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>>> ---
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>>>
>>> HDV on a Blu-ray Disc Without Re-encoding
>>>
>>> An MTS file is a video file saved in the
>>> high-definition (HD) MPEG Transport Stream video
>>> format, commonly called AVCHD. It contains HD video
>>> compatible with Blu-ray disc format and is based on
>>> the MPEG-2 transport stream. MTS files are often
>>> used by Sony, Panasonic, Canon and other HD
>>> camcorders. Legal input for Video – MPEG1VIDEO,
>>> MPEG2VIDEO, H264; Audio – MP1, MP2, AC3, AC3PLUS,
>>> DTS, TRUHD.
>>>
>>> Note, mp2 and mp1 audio codecs are valid for
>>> transport stream itself but not as on-disk format
>>> for Blu-Rays.
>>>
>>> In this case you still can save original video by
>>> using ffmpeg's switches
>>>
>>> -c:v copy -c:a ac3 , while outputting into another
>>> temporal ts container.
>>>
>>> {waiting for Terje's results on pcm_bluray case}
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> I think all m2ts files you used for testing were
>>> h264/aac (or ac3), not from-camcoder HDVs with mpeg2
>>> video/mp2 audio.
>>>
>>> you can try HDV-in-mov from this folder as ffmpeg
>>> test file, I think
>>>
>>> http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/mov/FCP/
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>>>
>>> oh, this is not mp2 audio but pcm audio. And ..not
>>> exactly kind of pcm used on blurays!
>>>
>>> so this line work, note mpegts_m2ts_mode switch for
>>> enabling more bluray like output, without it ffmpeg will
>>> mux audio into private stream - good luck getting it back!
>>>
>>> ffmpeg -i HDV_1080i50.mov -c:v copy -c:a pcm_bluray
>>> -mpegts_m2ts_mode 1 hdv.mts
>>>
>>> then tsmuxer recognizes mts file as below:
>>>
>>> ~/tsMuxer $ tsmuxer hdv.mts
>>> tsMuxeR version 2.6.16-dev. github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer
>>> <http://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer>
>>> Track ID: 4113 Stream type: MPEG-2
>>> Stream ID: V_MPEG-2
>>> Stream info: Profile: Main at 6. Resolution: 1440:1080i.
>>> Frame rate: 25
>>> Stream lang:
>>>
>>> Track ID: 4352
>>> Stream type: LPCM
>>> Stream ID: A_LPCM
>>> Stream info: Bitrate: 1536Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz
>>> Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 16bit
>>> Stream lang: eng
>>>
>>> Duration: 00:00:08.000
>>>
>>> ====
>>>
>>> I wonder if you can cp this file few times and then cat
>>> them back together for simulating longer video ) ?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/OpenShot/openshot-qt/issues/3428#top
>>>
>>> this one contain real very short hdv sample with mp2 sound
>>>
>>> http://twenkid.com/os/3.m2t
>>>
>>>
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>> I can try to dig and test further into this matter later this
>> month - or possibly more realistic next month.
>> Currently I spend some holiday weeks on Gran Canaria 😎
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>> have good times (even without camcoder!)
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>> Some thoughts in advance:
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>> Would it possibly be better/clear to differ/split between the
>> formats, HDV video on tape (M2T container) and the successor
>> H264/AVC(HD) video on disk?
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV
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>> sure, right now it confusing.
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>> Possibly you still have the probably little longer HDV 1080i
>> sample file, "20081103140154.m2t" we used for the HDV format
>> patch here
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org/msg02048.html
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>> yeah, will call my friend 'find' )
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>> thanks!
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>> And if Phyllis has access to a Blu-ray disc burner and BD hw
>> player, testing could possibly start sooner(?)
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>>> ----
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>>> For creating a blu-ray disc, if you have HDV MPEG-2
>>> media that is in blu-ray format, you can save the
>>> original quality of your work, rather than rendering
>>> it to another format.
>>>
>>>
>>> {I hope Terje will let us know if bdwrite still
>>> works with bluray pcm audio as produced by ffmpeg 5.1+}
>>>
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> I forgot one question:
> Will it be possible and how to access and use ffmpeg-5.x included
> with Cin-GG in a terminal as usual?
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> if you compile your own cinelerra ffmpeg binary will be in
> thirdparty/ffmpeg-5.1/ffmpeg
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> we do not install this binary because cin does all work via library
> interface.
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> So I think you can do single-user build and then play with compiled
> binary and may be even use it in shell scripting as described in
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> https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Menu_Bar_Shell_Commands.html
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> The latest openSUSE Leap 15.4 distro I use, has so far no official
> ffmpeg-5.x package or codec enabled from Packman.
> I have add-installed ffmpeg-5.1.2 from OBS (Open Build Service),
> but don't know if it works.
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A first test step with add-installed Experimental
ffmpeg-5-5.1.2-lp154.35.1.x86_64.rpm for Leap 15.4 from
https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=ffmpeg-5&project=multimedia%3Alibs
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/multimedia%3Alibs/ffmpeg-5
zypper addrepo
https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:libs/15.4/multimedia:libs.repo
zypper refresh
zypper install ffmpeg-5
----------------
ffmpeg -i 3.m2t -c:v copy -c:a pcm_bluray output.ts
ffmpeg version 5.1.2 Copyright (c) 2000-2022 the FFmpeg developers
built with gcc 7 (SUSE Linux)
-------------
Input #0, mpegts, from '3.m2t':
Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 21633 kb/s
Program 1
Metadata:
service_name : Service01
service_provider: FFmpeg
Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s,
29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
Side data:
cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
vbv_delay: N/A
Stream #0:1[0x101]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz,
stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s
Unknown encoder 'pcm_bluray'
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Obviously pcm_bluray encoder is not enabled - only the decoder is
enabled. Then it will be difficult ...
ffmpeg -codecs -hide_banner | egrep "pcm|pcm_bluray"
..AIL. adpcm_4xm ADPCM 4X Movie
..AIL. adpcm_adx SEGA CRI ADX ADPCM
..AIL. adpcm_afc ADPCM Nintendo Gamecube AFC
..AIL. adpcm_agm ADPCM AmuseGraphics Movie AGM
..AIL. adpcm_aica ADPCM Yamaha AICA
..AIL. adpcm_argo ADPCM Argonaut Games
..AIL. adpcm_ct ADPCM Creative Technology
..AIL. adpcm_dtk ADPCM Nintendo Gamecube DTK
..AIL. adpcm_ea ADPCM Electronic Arts
..AIL. adpcm_ea_maxis_xa ADPCM Electronic Arts Maxis CDROM XA
..AIL. adpcm_ea_r1 ADPCM Electronic Arts R1
..AIL. adpcm_ea_r2 ADPCM Electronic Arts R2
..AIL. adpcm_ea_r3 ADPCM Electronic Arts R3
..AIL. adpcm_ea_xas ADPCM Electronic Arts XAS
..AIL. adpcm_g722 G.722 ADPCM
..AIL. adpcm_g726 G.726 ADPCM
..AIL. adpcm_g726le G.726 ADPCM little-endian
..AIL. adpcm_ima_acorn ADPCM IMA Acorn Replay
..AIL. adpcm_ima_alp ADPCM IMA High Voltage Software ALP
..AIL. adpcm_ima_amv ADPCM IMA AMV
..AIL. adpcm_ima_apc ADPCM IMA CRYO APC
..AIL. adpcm_ima_apm ADPCM IMA Ubisoft APM
..AIL. adpcm_ima_cunning ADPCM IMA Cunning Developments
..AIL. adpcm_ima_dat4 ADPCM IMA Eurocom DAT4
..AIL. adpcm_ima_dk3 ADPCM IMA Duck DK3
..AIL. adpcm_ima_dk4 ADPCM IMA Duck DK4
..AIL. adpcm_ima_ea_eacs ADPCM IMA Electronic Arts EACS
..AIL. adpcm_ima_ea_sead ADPCM IMA Electronic Arts SEAD
..AIL. adpcm_ima_iss ADPCM IMA Funcom ISS
..AIL. adpcm_ima_moflex ADPCM IMA MobiClip MOFLEX
..AIL. adpcm_ima_mtf ADPCM IMA Capcom's MT Framework
..AIL. adpcm_ima_oki ADPCM IMA Dialogic OKI
..AIL. adpcm_ima_qt ADPCM IMA QuickTime
..AIL. adpcm_ima_rad ADPCM IMA Radical
..AIL. adpcm_ima_smjpeg ADPCM IMA Loki SDL MJPEG
..AIL. adpcm_ima_ssi ADPCM IMA Simon & Schuster Interactive
..AIL. adpcm_ima_wav ADPCM IMA WAV
..AIL. adpcm_ima_ws ADPCM IMA Westwood
..AIL. adpcm_ms ADPCM Microsoft
..AIL. adpcm_mtaf ADPCM MTAF
..AIL. adpcm_psx ADPCM Playstation
..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_2 ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 2-bit
..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_3 ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 2.6-bit
..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_4 ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 4-bit
..AIL. adpcm_swf ADPCM Shockwave Flash
..AIL. adpcm_thp ADPCM Nintendo THP
..AIL. adpcm_thp_le ADPCM Nintendo THP (Little-Endian)
..AIL. adpcm_vima LucasArts VIMA audio
..AIL. adpcm_xa ADPCM CDROM XA
..AIL. adpcm_yamaha ADPCM Yamaha
..AIL. adpcm_zork ADPCM Zork
..AIL. derf_dpcm DPCM Xilam DERF
..AIL. gremlin_dpcm DPCM Gremlin
..AIL. interplay_dpcm DPCM Interplay
DEAIL. pcm_alaw PCM A-law / G.711 A-law
D.AI.S pcm_bluray PCM signed 16|20|24-bit big-endian for
Blu-ray media
D.AI.S pcm_dvd PCM signed 20|24-bit big-endian
..AI.S pcm_f16le PCM 16.8 floating point little-endian
..AI.S pcm_f24le PCM 24.0 floating point little-endian
DEAI.S pcm_f32be PCM 32-bit floating point big-endian
DEAI.S pcm_f32le PCM 32-bit floating point little-endian
DEAI.S pcm_f64be PCM 64-bit floating point big-endian
DEAI.S pcm_f64le PCM 64-bit floating point little-endian
..AI.S pcm_lxf PCM signed 20-bit little-endian planar
DEAIL. pcm_mulaw PCM mu-law / G.711 mu-law
DEAI.S pcm_s16be PCM signed 16-bit big-endian
DEAI.S pcm_s16be_planar PCM signed 16-bit big-endian planar
DEAI.S pcm_s16le PCM signed 16-bit little-endian
DEAI.S pcm_s16le_planar PCM signed 16-bit little-endian planar
DEAI.S pcm_s24be PCM signed 24-bit big-endian
..AI.S pcm_s24daud PCM D-Cinema audio signed 24-bit
DEAI.S pcm_s24le PCM signed 24-bit little-endian
DEAI.S pcm_s24le_planar PCM signed 24-bit little-endian planar
DEAI.S pcm_s32be PCM signed 32-bit big-endian
DEAI.S pcm_s32le PCM signed 32-bit little-endian
DEAI.S pcm_s32le_planar PCM signed 32-bit little-endian planar
..AI.S pcm_s64be PCM signed 64-bit big-endian
..AI.S pcm_s64le PCM signed 64-bit little-endian
DEAI.S pcm_s8 PCM signed 8-bit
DEAI.S pcm_s8_planar PCM signed 8-bit planar
..AI.S pcm_sga PCM SGA
DEAI.S pcm_u16be PCM unsigned 16-bit big-endian
DEAI.S pcm_u16le PCM unsigned 16-bit little-endian
DEAI.S pcm_u24be PCM unsigned 24-bit big-endian
DEAI.S pcm_u24le PCM unsigned 24-bit little-endian
DEAI.S pcm_u32be PCM unsigned 32-bit big-endian
DEAI.S pcm_u32le PCM unsigned 32-bit little-endian
DEAI.S pcm_u8 PCM unsigned 8-bit
..AIL. pcm_vidc PCM Archimedes VIDC
..AIL. roq_dpcm DPCM id RoQ
..AIL. sdx2_dpcm DPCM Squareroot-Delta-Exact
..AIL. sol_dpcm DPCM Sol
..AIL. xan_dpcm DPCM Xan
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