January 2019 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

Cinelerra-HV 7.1 has been released
by Pierre autourduglobe 11 Sep '19

11 Sep '19

For those who may be interested, Cinelerra-HV 7.1 has been released. "1/22/19 - Cinelerra 7.1 Exporting of H.265 video in Quicktime. Seeking for MKV/WEBM files. More bugs fixed." http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php

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Cinelerra-GG new monthly builds ready for download
by Phyllis Smith 02 Feb '19

02 Feb '19

The new monthly Cin-GG builds are ready for download. Visit the website and while you are there, check out some changed pages as Sam keeps things fresh: cinelerra-gg.org The shuttle connections have been tested most on Fedora, a little on Mint 18, and barely on Ubuntu 16 and Leap 15. Do not hesitate to contact us if problems as we could not test all distros and you might want to wait for feedback from Pierre who will be doing real use testing before ordering a shuttle. Features5.pdf includes section 40.29 on usage and initial setup. Only a 1 time setup per Operating System should be required for non-root usage. > As root, just copy a file that provides the necessary permissions to use > the shuttle. A sample copy would be: > # cp {cindat_path}/doc/99-ShuttlePRO.rules > /etc/udev/rules.d/99-ShuttlePRO.rules > then the next time after you reboot, the permissions should be correct. > Copy of this month's release notes follow. gg/Phyllis ------------------------------------------------------ Cinelerra-GG (Version Infinity) Release Notes for 01/01/2019-01/31/2019 for builds 1. The O/S for all of the distros that are used in creating the monthly builds have been updated. This takes an intense 2 days of work for a little over 20 distros and usually gets done quarterly. 2. x264 and x265 libraries have been updated to the latest version at the time. And it has been recently brought to our attention that if using x264, you can do 10-bit as well as 8-bit with the standard monthly builds (thanks to Terje notification). For rendering, the opts video file for x264- 10bit.mp4 has been added to facilitate usage. 3. Cin now supports the ShuttlePROv2 and ShuttleXpress devices and can be user modified. 4. Drag Handle usage has been reworked. Besides Ripple, Roll, & Slip, there is now Slide and Edge. 5. Usability Improvements Add double edge insert and overwrite with highlight. “Fast” drag mode now allows for moving the effects, labels, keyframes, and autos along with the clips and honors the Settings pulldown checked items. Reset buttons have been added to 23 more plugins: Brightness/Contrast, Gamma, Hue Saturation, ReframeRT, Sharpen, Polar, Wave, Whirl, Blur, Radial Blur, Linear Blur, and Zoom Blur, Oil painting, Unsharp, Rumbler, YUV, YUV411, YUVShift, Swap Channels, ShiftInterlace, RGBShift, Translate, and Swap Frames. Contribution from another programmer. You can now dump the last 32 un-do’s in the undo stack on your terminal window if start cin there. Because cut and paste behavior was new last month, there has been some minor changes and additions to fine-tune specific areas. Groups can now be single source dragged. 6. Bugs/Issues Fixed Thanks this month to all of the users who took time to report bugs in MantisBT. It takes your time to do that but everyone benefits. The Dump Assets in File pulldown was crashing but is now fixed. Delete_edits optimize was causing a crash in drag and drop mode. Code cleanup to combine 2 separate color header files. Updated CineRmt which provides a remote control for using cinelerra on broadcast TV. A bug in ReframeRT with the settings has been fixed. Fixed bug in Rotate plugin of an issue when you move the draw pivot out of the canvas on bottom. Rework paste edits to accommodate new capabilities. Removed “code for lost auto” put in February 26, 2018. Changed build scripts to not allow an mjpeg v4l, non-version 2, build. Fixed Tip of the Day to rotate through the tips instead of always showing the same one. Create separate groups instead of adding to an existing group. Expanders.txt has had an additional time plugin added. Batch Render has been fixed to report the filename when it gets an error (was null). Render Farm had an additional field (now 6) added awhile back that caused the batch render columns to be incorrectly recorded because it only had 5 columns. This has been fixed. Users who change from batch render to render farm MAY BE IMPACTED but the workaround is to delete the $HOME/.bcast5/Cinelerra_rc file. DVB channels/tv fix ups as prompted by work of MatN. Removed build requirement of ESD sound driver. Batch render segv on boot defaults fixed. Blue Banana plugin bug fixed where a draw was happening inside destructor code. A potential hang when freeing locks has been corrected. Mjpegtools has been modified because there was a typo. The default ffmpeg audio and video icons were corrected with Sam’s logo (a mistake here). Shortcuts.html accessible from Cin has been updated. Differences.pdf was updated on the Server.

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Need help: Picture of the ShuttlePro Controller
by Sam 30 Jan '19

30 Jan '19

Hi guys. Can anyone send me some homemade pictures of the ShuttlePro 2.0 controller? I would like to publish them on the homepage. I don't have a controller yet and the pictures on the internet are not good enough. I need pictures of all possible perspectives on a white background. From above in a 45, 60, 70, 80 and 90 degree angle from above and from the side. On the homepage two pictures with a computer are to be seen, in this angle I would need the pictures. Please use a good exposure if possible. The image rights would have to be released for the website. Many thanks in advance. Sam --

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Re: [Cin] Need help: Picture of the ShuttlePro Controller
by Sam 30 Jan '19

30 Jan '19

Hi Pierre, Thank you for your efforts. Unfortunately I cannot use these pictures, because I need it in a higher resolution and on white background. I think I'll order a controller myself, but I won't be home for two to three weeks. But there's no hurry. You have a very cool workplace, looks like a TV editing studio. :-) Thanks anyway for your help. Sam Am 30.01.19 um 20:59 schrieb Pierre autourduglobe: > Hi Sam, > > Unfortunately I don't have a good photo camera, I only have an old > phone that's not very good for photography... > > But I still tried things: > > If you find the pictures useful I release them from all rights, you > can do whatever you want with them. > > https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=kZ9FSK7Ze4U4t3ot3MfNlwMiCteGd4qVkCaX > > > Pierre > > > > On 19-01-30 12 h 23, Sam wrote: >> Hi guys. >> >> Can anyone send me some homemade pictures of the ShuttlePro 2.0 >> controller? I would like to publish them on the homepage. I don't >> have a controller yet and the pictures on the internet are not good >> enough. I need pictures of all possible perspectives on a white >> background. From above in a 45, 60, 70, 80 and 90 degree angle from >> above and from the side. On the homepage two pictures with a computer >> are to be seen, in this angle I would need the pictures. Please use a >> good exposure if possible. The image rights would have to be released >> for the website. Many thanks in advance. >> >> Sam >>

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Extend the life of still images on the timeline.
by Andrea paz 30 Jan '19

30 Jan '19

I'm not sure it's a bug or my incompetence, so I'll check the mailing list first. It seems to me that the trim functionalities (buttons 1 or 2 or 3) always lead to a mute edit. Note: edits are still images and not video; with video no problems. https://streamable.com/0taqp

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What is in today's GIT checkin, you ask...
by Phyllis Smith 27 Jan '19

27 Jan '19

The following main changes were included in GG's checkin today. There is an Ubuntu16 build at: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-ub16-x86_64-sta… 1) biggest deal is *drag edits handling has been reworked* the wording has also changed in Settings->Preferences, Interface tab to make it clearer for understanding Drag edge only Drag media only Drag edge and media 2) x264 and x265 libraries are now at the current version in the thirdparty directory 3) ESD - old sound driver is no longer necessary for the build prepare 4) DVB changes/fixes courtesy MatN We tested as usual, but if you notice any problems or something not working like you expect, please let us know. gg/phyllis

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Multi Viewer / Multi Cameras - ExpertUsage - OpenMixers
by Igor BEGHETTO 25 Jan '19

25 Jan '19

Hi at all, I have done a short Demo video (6m14s) with the description to show the use of that powerful feature. In the demo you can see that I use four video source, but you can use more. I hope it can be useful. File: Demo_MultiCameras-ExpertUsage_OpenMixers.(mov) https://streamable.com/c40ia @Andrea paz I'm sorry if I don't write/answer to you (and others) in the Forum. Thanks! IgorBeg PS: If someone is interested to change the text in yellow colour, I can send the Cinelerra Project file with the screencast sources, without Music for license problems.

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Automatic keyframes of Camera and Projector
by Andrea paz 19 Jan '19

19 Jan '19

Hi, can anyone explain chapter 18, paragraph 18.4 of the manual-cv? I refer to the automatic keyframes of camera and projector. I can't understand the explanations and I can't even reproduce that behavior in my tests. I don't see more than a box of cameras or projectors and therefore I don't see even the motion paths that unite them. Another question: what is the difference between the keyframe of the camera and the keyframe of the projector?

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Original Author
by Andrea paz 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

Hi, SIt seems that this year we are not releasing a new version of Cin-HV. Has Adam gotten tired of developing it? There are new commits in SourceForge, so there's still hope. Does anyone know anything about it?

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Cinx - 10-bit h264 and/or h265
by Terje J Hanssen 13 Jan '19

13 Jan '19

Hi, Two sections pasted from the current Feature5 documentation say: page 12 Do NOT download the LEAP 10bit version unless you use h264 (it can't render 8bit h264). page 171 38. Cinx and a “Bit” of Confusion Cinx is the exact same program as Cin. The X (x) represents the roman numeral 10 for 10 bit as opposed to 8-bit standard. The third-party library used for x265 must be specially compiled with –bit- depth=10 in order to produce 10 bit rendered output. This build will not be able to output 8-bit depth which means you have to retain the Cin version also. Whatever build ffmpeg is linked to will determine what bit depth it can output. This is why there has to be separate builds. The same is true for x264 but no special build has been created for that; however the user can do their own build. If you install both packages, Cin and CinX, you may get “file conflicts of same file name” - just continue. Keep in mind that the regular 8-bit version works on 8-bit bytes – the standard word size for computers, but the 10-bit version has to use 2 words to contain all 10 bits so you can expect rendering to be as much as twice as slow. There is also a 12-bit version for consideration but currently the results are simply the same as 10-bit with padding to make 12-bit so it is of no value. I wonder if there is a typo above on page 12 "h264" vs "x265" and "x264" page 171, or something I have mis-interpreted? I have both Cin and Cinx installed on the same Leap15 and have the following libx installed: zypper se -i libx26 S | Name | Summary | Type ---+-------------+-------------------------------------------+-------- i+ | libx264-152 | A free h264/avc encoder - encoder binary | package i+ | libx265-151 | A free H265/HEVC encoder - encoder binary | package i+ | libx265-165 | A free H265/HEVC encoder - encoder binary | package ------------------------ As I understand the following url, x264 supports both 8-bit and 10-bit H.264 encoding https://gist.github.com/l4n9th4n9/4459997 and VLC 3.0: Hardware acceleration for H. 264/H. 265 in 8/10 Bit and CineForm https://www.slashcam.com/news/single/VLC-3-0--Hardware-acceleration-for-H--… In short it seems like 10-bit h264 encoding is better for smaller file size and colors, also for 8-bit video sources.H It is not a HD Blu-ray video standard, but can be decoded on a PC. 10-bit h265 is part of the UHD Blu-ray video format. Thanks, Terje

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