December 2019 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

Re: [Cin] cinelerra-gg on ppc64el
by Daniel Reurich 02 Apr '22

02 Apr '22

Hi I've made some significant progress in getting the build going - and will have some patches to drop that solve some issues for builds using system libs and non x86 based archs. The current issue I'm stumbling on is that configure doesn't detect the systems liba52 and a52dec/a52.h header files as installed. This results in a linking failure during the build of libzmpeg Any thoughts on how I might overcome that? Thanks, Daniel. -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722

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Blu-ray encoding again
by Andrew Randrianasulu 16 Oct '20

16 Oct '20

Hi! With Marton's patches from git clone -b mpegts https://github.com/cus/ffmpeg/ and CinGG compiled with ffmpg.git I _nearly_ got some rendering. But option files still needed some modification For example I was running into x264 errors. cin Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 14 2019 14:17:05 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams (c) 2007-2019 cin5 derivative by W.P. Morrow aka goodguy Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra. Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] interlace + weightp is not implemented [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] using mv_range_thread = 88 [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] NAL HRD parameters require VBV parameters [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] using SAR=1/1 [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX XOP FMA3 BMI1 [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] profile High, level 4.1 Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl FFMPEG::encode_activate: write header failed /dev/shm//bd_20191114-163217/bd.m2ts err: Недопустимый аргумент Render::render_single: Session finished. Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl some of them were fixed by applying parameters from http://www.x264bluray.com/home/1080i-p [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] using mv_range_thread = 88 [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] using SAR=1/1 [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX XOP FMA3 BMI1 [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] HRD bitrate: 40000000 bits/sec [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] CPB size: 30000000 bits [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] profile High, level 4.1 [SWR @ 0xcfba81c0] Using fltp internally between filters Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl Render::render_single: Session finished. but there still warning at ffmpeg site about deprecation of x264opts: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/H.264 Warning: Do not use the option x264opts, as it will eventually be removed. Use x264-params instead. --- /usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/bluray.m2ts 417/417 100% bluray libx264 bluray-compat=1 id=0x1011 level=41 bf=2 fake-interlaced=1 bitrate=40000 slices=4 sar=1:1 # vbv-maxrate=40000 # vbv-bufsize=30000 refs=3 cin_pix_fmt=yuv420p color_range=mpeg colorspace=bt709 color_trc=bt709 color_primaries=bt709 profile=high preset=medium flags=+cgop # must be last for bdcreate.C x264opts keyint=25:min-keyint=4:qpmin=3:qpmax=33:qp_step=4:merange=8:vbv-maxrate=40000:vbv-bufsize=30000 --- /usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/format/bluray 129/129 100% mpegts mpegts_m2ts_mode=1 mpegts_start_pid=1024 mpegts_pmt_start_pid=256 muxrate 1 #sdt_period=-1 packetsize 2048 preload 500000 But please note some x264 params actually should vary for interlaced or progressive, 25 vs 30 fps: 1080p Primary and Secondary Streams 1080p23.976 / 1080p24 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 24 --open-gop --slices 4 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 24 --open-gop --slices 4 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file NB: the following two streams are encoded using fake-interlaced mode. This allows the stream to be encoded progressively yet flagged as interlaced. 1080p25 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --open-gop --slices 4 --fake-interlaced --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --open-gop --slices 4 --fake-interlaced --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file 1080p29.97 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 30 --open-gop --slices 4 --fake-interlaced --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 30 --open-gop --slices 4 --fake-interlaced --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file 1080i Primary and Secondary Streams (assumes top field first) 1080i25 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --open-gop --slices 4 --tff --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --open-gop --slices 4 --tff --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file 1080i29.97 / 1080i30 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 30 --open-gop --slices 4 --tff --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 30 --open-gop --slices 4 --tff --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file so, keyint must be dynamically-selected, depending on profile you (user) choose, and fake_interlaced must be present for progressive encodings More on those constrains, refering same page: https://av.community/guides/encoding-video-for-blu-ray-using-h264-avc/ "8-bit (4:2:0) Colorspace is only allowed Main and High profiles are allowed Maximum 3 B-Frames is allowed NAL-HRD Type 2 capable encoder is needed" note, according to some comments around vbv-bufsize you can mux to DVD, so test this, too? "vbv-maxrate Maximum allowed bitrate. Depend of destination media, for normal BD Media, maximum settings is allowed (40000), while for DVD Media (eg BD-5 or BD-9) there is no maximum per Blu-Ray specification, but is strongly recommended that use less or equal to 15000, since DVD reading is slower."

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Nested clip and proxy
by Igor BEGHETTO 26 Jan '20

26 Jan '20

I was reading the manual "CinelerraGG_manual.pdf" (created March 31 2019) and the manual "CinelerraGG_manual_WIP.pdf" (dated 20190826) by LaTex about Nested Clips. (really good job, guys. And I could print it on the paper in a A5 size) I noticed... - "CinelerraGG_manual.pdf", pg.116, Nested Clips - "CinelerraGG_manual_WIP.pdf", pg.122, Nested Clips The final sentence: "...compositions. They can not be proxied" By my tests/works, you CAN create proxies for Nested clips. Proxies are created in Cinelerra folder (where there is "cin" file) instead of the clip folder as usual (with Cin TAR version. With Package version I don't know). Before saving your project, pay attention to disable Proxy feature. You MUST SAVE your PROJECT with PROXY DISABLED otherwise you lose the link to the clips (more or less). Is it right that proxies are created in Cinelerra folder? Is there any reasons they are not created in the clip folder? Thanks. IgorBeg

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Latex and Manual
by Andrea paz 13 Jan '20

13 Jan '20

@Olaf. Every month I write an email containing LaTeX and Manual in the title to continue the discussion and translation work with einhander. I installed the whole package, plus the Greek and Russian languages. Of course I also installed an editor, that is TexStudio. It would be nice if you could also contribute (in any way). "I also noticed that the lines in the TeX documents are all written without wrapping. When using Git and Diff, however, hard line breaks could be useful, short lines limited to less than 80 characters simplify the clarity." My knowledge of \LaTeX is very superficial and therefore I have not understood what you mean by wrapping the text. It would be nice if you could also contribute (in any way).

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Merry Xmas!
by Igor BEGHETTO 04 Jan '20

04 Jan '20

Everyone You are,.... Merry Christmas! IgorBeg

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New tars and pkgs ready to download
by Phyllis Smith 03 Jan '20

03 Jan '20

Head for the cinelerra-gg.org website and click on Download to get to the latest builds. Thanks to everyone for input, requests, bug reports, and especially testing to ensure Cinelerra stays relevant. The "Open EDL" feature already came in handy - usage pdf file at: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/editing_edl.pdf and the addition of anti-aliasing/rotation/scaling to the Sketcher plugin is very nice. See the releasenotes.pdf or text list of changes with lots of bug fixes is below. ------------------------------------------------------------- Cinelerra-GG (Version Infinity) Release Notes for 12/01/2019-12/31/2019 for builds 1. *Init Glyphs* finally fixed – at least 99%. This affects large computers when in highly threaded mode and many, many cpus. For example, a computer with 2 Epyc chips running Cinelerra-GG. You would see a specific character like the ascii character “b” displayed, usually as “||” instead, when running for every occurrence of the letter “b” until Cinelerra restarted. And on the restart possibly a different character would be incorrectly displayed. Problem originates outside of Cinelerra but a “fix” is now included here and will become more important in the future as users upgrade to more cpu-s. LOCALE changes for other languages will be necessary to include characters not in english. 2. The rest of the *HV 7.2* modifications (that fit in and are usable) have been incorporated to include: - *Compressor Multi* for multibands plugin has been added. The Smooth Only option was debugged so that it produced sound and a decision was made to add a Gain and Reset button feature at the same time since it was being worked anyway. - Compressor plugin had major modifications along with more pot dial options, VU meters, and a graphic display. Cinelerra_factory changes applied also for some automatic presets for plugin. This too has had the Smooth Only option fixed and buttons for Gain and Reset added. - Reverb plugin ported containing a large amount of changes to include addition of levels, a graphic, pots and a full band pass filter. (The previous 3 plugins were modified to allow for theme related refinements.) - Spectogram /Synthesizer plugins were ported as they had a couple of more items/improvements. - A *dashed center line* is now displayed on the Audio timeline when in non-rectify mode. - Plugin synchronization fixes were merged in. - Changed methodology of truncated text ellipses and modified “align edits” methodology. - Refresh frame tweak included. - Converted the 7.2 Background plugin to a *new Foreground plugin *for simple usage of a color. - Sound Level plugin reworked to handle fragments. - Added Depth variable to plugin.C program. 3. *Hardware accelerators improvement* is now fixed (found problem as Pierre reported in BT #346). This affects Preferences hardware settings of vdpau, vaapi, and cuda. There may be slight gains in decoding speed as a result. 4. *Usability Improvements:* In the Render menu, the filename will automatically have the “.mov” extension added instead of “.pro” when pro is chosen for the ffmpeg format for Quicktime tyype files (Olaf reported). Added 13 new audio and 2 new video ffmpeg formats as supplied by Olaf (see Mantis BT # 351). *New Alpha plugin* for the simple case of changing the video alpha value from 0 which is completely transparent to 1 with no transparency at all. * In Mixers*, minor changes (issues reported by dankinselman): - If in Settings->Edit effects, is enabled, the plugins will be copied/pasted to the master track. Also, labels and keyframes will follow if enabled. This behavior is different than in the past where they were not. This change also affects when you create a clip – the plugins, labels, keyframes will now be included. This seems to be more correct and you can always turn off Edit effects/labels/keyframes if the behavior is undesirable. - If close a Mixer window and delete its associated tracks, they will now stay deleted. - Mixer windows and patchbay labels are correctly renumbered after deleting mixers. The *German translations* have been updated by Olaf. Check BT #353 for usage hints. The *Sketcher plugin* has been improved to allow for 2 additional anti-aliasing options to make curves and lines less staircase-looking. Options are off, on, and double (IgorB request). In addition Scaling and Rotation capabilities have been added, layout changes made, and Help moved to a checkbox to hide it when not needed. *Edit EDL capability *has been added. This makes it possible to edit clips, nested clips, and xml files in your current project by stacking and unstacking current EDL states. This is documented on the website under Download, File Storage as *editing_edl.pdf*. Track canvas draw for colored titles and background colors is now *fastpath* so is at least 4x faster. 5. *TV recording *changes for over the air digital television changes: - Hauppauge 1657 Dual USB device has been tested to work with minor program changes. A possible equivalent European over the air TV might be Hauppauge European Dual Tuner for DVB_T/T2/C Digital TV. But this has not been tested and the channel configuration may require Cinelerra program changes and you may need to install TV firmware for your Operating System. - The Record menu allows for automatically adding deinterlacing choice of None, Even, or Odd. 6. *Bugs/Issues Fixed:* Updated the ffmpeg git version to include patches for bluray creation (working with Andrew). Minor updates to the 3 README.x files in the download area of the website + updated Arch install instructions on the website to correct and clarify (reported by v4t). Audioscope plugin rework for cleanup and improvements. Ubiquitous cleanup done in several routines. Colorpicker which was a widget, is now a gadget. Paremetric plugin has improved audio play positioning. The Apply button in the Load Menus when a selection is available was not getting updated. Fixed. In the Fedora O/S, the cinelerra window icons in the window manager were not always correct but this has been mostly addressed now. Bug fix for init_colors in bcmodels to clear alpha is now in. Transcode fixes applied & more testing led to other possible cases that needed to be handled BT 350. Plugins info and shortcuts.html have small updates added. Operating System distro and version number are now included in the dump output. Minor compositor Zoom change in how it operates when not in Auto mode (BT #344). Tracer plugin minor layout changes (reported by Sam in old BT #210). Colorpicker gadget/grab fixes and Compositor Eyedropper minor bugs/tweaks fixes. Fixed potential infinite loop due to silence not being played. One button type did not allow for name changing but now it is fixed to do so. The Render Effect menu now resizes correctly for the ffmpeg file type field (Ugin reported). Fixed locking labels/plugins/kfs from moving when appending new tracks load (Lukas BT #354). Nesting video where audio was deleted and then played in viewer had a SEGV is now fixed. Under certain conditions, if you use the P proxy shortcut on the timeline to get back to non-proxy mode, it would not do so (but workaround was to use the menu). This has been fixed to work correctly (discovered by dankinselman). A fix for the vicon drawing rare SEGV race conditions is now in. The beepers in various spots to indicate a render has finished has been consolidated in mwindow. Minor valgrind cleanup has been done.

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Request: Sketcher plugin and Antialiasing
by Igor BEGHETTO 30 Dec '19

30 Dec '19

If others users/developers agree with me, I would like to have the antialiasing option for the Sketcher plugin, if it is possible. It would be useful when a curve is drawn. Thanks. IgorBeg

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bar color
by preobraz＠gmail.com 30 Dec '19

30 Dec '19

Hi all! Can i back default color of bar? Link: https://pic4a.ru/912/HV5.gif -- Ugin

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Slackware-14.2 x64 package wrongly packaged?
by Andrew Randrianasulu 30 Dec '19

30 Dec '19

Hello! User reported problem trying to launch Slackware package, provided at https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/tars/ It seems package tries to unpack itself into / ! I tried to see (f3 in Midnight Commander) package content and got: dev/shm/cinelerra-5.1-slk64-14.2-20191130.x86_64-static.txz 3903/8192+ CP1251 drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2019-11-30 21:02 ./ -rwxr-xr-x root/root 514232 2019-11-30 20:58 ./hveg2enc drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2019-06-15 21:47 ./models/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 2589 2019-06-15 21:47 ./models/lion01_mouth1.png -rw-r--r-- root/root 2745 2019-06-15 21:47 ./models/lion01_mouth2.png -rw-r--r-- root/root 53168 2019-06-15 21:47 ./models/knight01_body.png -rw-r--r-- root/root 529 2019-06-15 21:47 ./models/warrior01_eyes2.png -rw-r--r-- root/root 622 2019-06-15 21:47 ./models/warrior01_eyes1.png -rw-r--r-- root/root 596 2019-06-15 21:47 ./models/knight01_mouth3.png -rw-r--r-- root/root 104737 2019-06-15 21:47 ./models/lion2.xcf.bz2 [skipped a lot more] Also, apparently Slackware package was build on -current, and Slackware's Current quite different from 14.2 , so it doesn't run due to lib version mismatch

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Clips/Nested clips/Xml - new feature - best thing since sliced bread!
by Phyllis Smith 29 Dec '19

29 Dec '19

With the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is included with your project as Clips, Nested Clips, or Xml. For example, if you have a nested clip that originally had several plugins added to it before it was nested, you can edit those plugin parameter values. Previously to make any changes to these EDL clips/nested clips, you had to remake the whole clip from scratch. This is done via "Open EDL" and button click as described below by the ****. In addition a couple of modifications related to this are noticeable to include the following: - in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the wording which was "Nest" is now "Nest to Media" - in the Clip folder, when you actually perform "Nest to Media", the nested clip is only displayed in the Media folder for example: 1) load some test media, mode replace project 2) highlight a selection and press create clip. add notes and press ok. clip is created 3) in resources window, open the clip folder. clip1 is present 4) select clip1 and right mouse the item. select menu item Open EDL 5) timeline changes to just the clip content. 6) add a visible effect, like burning tv and press the [1] in the main menu bar. 7) timeline is restored to original media. 8) drag the clip from the resources folder to the timeline. The effect is visible. **** - in the Clip folder, there is a new option to "Open EDL" for the highlighted clip. When you choose this option, the clip will be brought up on the timeline. *VERY IMPORTANT to note*, the previous timeline EDL is "pushed onto a stack" (this is programmer talk) so it is remembered and to get back to that you have to "pop the stack" (more programmer talk) by clicking on the button in the upper right hand corner of the timeline above where the Proxy switch button would be. Usually this button will read 1 if you choose "Open EDL" and then 0 when back to your original timeline. You can go several levels deep so instead of 1, it could be 2, 3, ... but I got to tell you that you can get lost if you overdo it. Once the clip is open on the timeline, you can edit it however you want. - in the Media folder, once you have nested a clip, the Nested clip will be located here - in the Media folder, the option to unnest the clip is now called "EDL to clip" which results in the nested clip being reverted to a clip and back into the clip folder with only a name of "Clip #". The nested clip is also still in the Media folder. - in the Media folder, you now have the new option to "Open EDL" as described for clips above. But in this case when you Open EDL and edit the changes, those changes will take affect on any and all occurrences of that nested clip on the timeline. I will make a demo later. There are Debian 9/10 static tars that contain this and other mods in the Download / Documentation / File Storage at cinelerra-gg.org. Would be happy to make static tars for any other usual distro/version if you would like to test early.

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