August 2021 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

FranceBB's LUT collection
by Andrew Randrianasulu 17 May '25

17 May '25

forum https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=176091 it says those LUTs should be usable for ffmpeg's lut3d and therefore for CinGG? github (each *.cube can be several mb's big) https://github.com/FranceBB/LinearTransformation author says they were verified on professional equipment... list includes PAL and NTSC variants for rec. 601....

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I tried to add AVC-Intra 100 output profiles
by Andrew Randrianasulu 08 May '25

08 May '25

But not sure if I did this correctly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVC-Intra says for AVC-Intra 100: AVC-Intra 100: nominally 100 Mbit/s, size of each frame is fixed CAVLC entropy coding only. All formats are High 4:2:2 Intra Profile, Level 4.1 4:2:2 chrominance sampling frames are not scaled and yeah, this French-language pdf actually says the same: https://web.archive.org/web/20110720215759/http://www.ficam.fr/upload/docum… 50M 100M Standard MPEG-4 part10 AVC/H.264 Profile High 10 Intra High 4:2:2 Intra Level Level 3.2/4.0 Level 4.1 Resolution 1440x1080 / 960x720 1920x1080 / 1280x720 Sampling 4:2:0 4:2:2 Bit rate 54Mbps 111Mbps Block size Y: 8x8, C: 4x4 Intra Prediction Y: 9mode, C: 4mode MBAFF Yes De-block filter No Slice/frame 10 Entropy coding CABAC CAVLC so, I looked up ffmpeg cmd line https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/3597 ffmpeg -v info -i /mnt-data/backup4/vol0/export/CUHK\ 2014-1/V017b.mov -vcodec libx264 -intra -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -vb 100M -x264opts avcintra-class=100 -x264opts colorprim=bt709 -x264opts transfer=bt709 -x264opts colormatrix=bt709 -threads 4 -acodec copy V017b-ffmpeg-git-avcintra100.mov Huh, said I and entered those params in opts file, actually in two files (mp4 and mov containers) mov libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 mp4 libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 both for progressive content, for interlace you must add some more flags: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2017-January/035049.html -flags +ildct+ilme -x264opts interlaced=1 Also, there is still lack of (GUI) user notification if file writing failed due to NO SPACE on device :} FFStream::write_packet: write packet failed. file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::encode_frame: encode failed. file: /dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::flush failed :file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: Операция не позволена Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.585 secs, 3.190 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.485 secs, 3.194 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 82.176 secs, 3.322 fps Profile sort of assumes you set project to some supported resolution, framerate, etc, otherwise libx264 will fail with console error message..... I found some talk about AVC-Ultra, there even was patch for x264, but it was not merged: https://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/x264-devel/2015-September/011412.html Also, I think sound must be uncompressed, but I'm not sure.

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Use MAXCHANNELS define in mwindow.C
by Andrew Randrianasulu 26 Jan '24

26 Jan '24

Rest of CinGG seems to use it: guest@slax:/dev/shm/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra$ grep 'MAXCHANNELS' *.C arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) delete buffer[i]; arender.C: meter_history->init(MAXCHANNELS, calculate_history_size()); arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) arender.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) assetedit.C: (int)MAXCHANNELS, x, y, xS(50)) audioconfig.C: CLAMP(oss_in_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); audioconfig.C: CLAMP(oss_duplex_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); convert.C: for( int i=0; i < MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) pan_auto->values[i] = 0; convert.C: if( atrack >= MAXCHANNELS ) atrack = 0; dcoffset.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) dc_offset[i] = 0; edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: Workarounds::clamp(audio_channels, 0, MAXCHANNELS - 1); edlsession.C: Workarounds::clamp(video_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS - 1); edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { fileformat.C: : BC_TumbleTextBox(fwindow, (int)atol(text), (int)1, (int)MAXCHANNELS, x, y, 50) mwindowedit.C: for( int i=0; i < MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { panauto.C: bzero(values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); panauto.C: bzero(values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); panauto.C: memcpy(this->values, pan_auto->values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); preferences.C: while( channels < MAXCHANNELS ) { preferences.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { preferences.C: for( int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++ ) { record.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { record.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { recordgui.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { renderengine.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { resourcethread.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) resourcethread.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) resourcethread.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { setformat.C: CLAMP(new_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); setformat.C: add_subwindow(new BC_ITumbler(channels, 0, MAXCHANNELS, setformat.C: int new_channels = CLIP(atoi(get_text()), 0, MAXCHANNELS); tracking.C: double output_levels[MAXCHANNELS]; virtualanode.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) vtracking.C: double output_levels[MAXCHANNELS]; vwindowgui.C: Samples *samples[MAXCHANNELS]; vwindowgui.C: while( ch < MAXCHANNELS ) samples[ch++] = 0; guest@slax:/dev/shm/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra$ grep 'MAXCHANNELS' *.h arender.h: Samples *audio_out[MAXCHANNELS]; arender.h: Samples *buffer[MAXCHANNELS]; arender.h: int buffer_allocated[MAXCHANNELS]; dcoffset.h: int dc_offset[MAXCHANNELS], dc_offset_total[MAXCHANNELS], dc_offset_count; edlsession.h: int achannel_positions[MAXCHANNELS]; edlsession.h: int vchannel_x[MAXCHANNELS]; edlsession.h: int vchannel_y[MAXCHANNELS]; maxchannels.h:#ifndef MAXCHANNELS maxchannels.h:#define MAXCHANNELS 32 panauto.h: float values[MAXCHANNELS]; preferences.h: int channel_positions[MAXCHANNELS][MAXCHANNELS]; record.h: int64_t dc_offset[MAXCHANNELS]; recordgui.h: RecordGUIDCOffsetText *dc_offset_text[MAXCHANNELS]; recordgui.h: BC_Meter *meter[MAXCHANNELS]; virtualanode.h: Auto *pan_before[MAXCHANNELS], *pan_after[MAXCHANNELS]; so I used it for max number of channels for auto-created project (was just 6): diff --git a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C index f245018a..690c7ef8 100644 --- a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C +++ b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C @@ -5088,7 +5107,7 @@ int MWindow::select_asset(Asset *asset, int vstream, int astream, int delete_tra int channels = 0; for( uint64_t mask=channel_mask; mask!=0; mask>>=1 ) channels += mask & 1; if( channels < 1 ) channels = 1; - if( channels > 6 ) channels = 6; + if( channels > MAXCHANNELS ) channels = MAXCHANNELS; session->audio_tracks = session->audio_channels = channels; int *achannel_positions = preferences->channel_positions[session->audio_channels-1]; =====

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Re: [Cin] cinelerra-gg on ppc64el
by Daniel Reurich 03 Apr '22

03 Apr '22

Hi I've made some significant progress in getting the build going - and will have some patches to drop that solve some issues for builds using system libs and non x86 based archs. The current issue I'm stumbling on is that configure doesn't detect the systems liba52 and a52dec/a52.h header files as installed. This results in a linking failure during the build of libzmpeg Any thoughts on how I might overcome that? Thanks, Daniel. -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722

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Cinelerra context help - a complete implementation
by Georgy Salnikov 24 Mar '22

24 Mar '22

Hi all, This new implementation of Cinelerra context help can be requested from almost any Cinelerra window or subwindow by pointing with the mouse cursor on the GUI element of interest and pressing Alt/h. That HTML manual page will be shown via the configured web browser, which is assumed as most relevant to the GUI element being currently under the mouse pointer. For more information see issue 568 on the bugtracker: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=568 How to install, configure and demonstrate the new functionality --------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Apply the patch (see BT568) to the CinGG source tree: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/file_download.php?file_id=775&type=… 2. After patching one new file appears: doc/ContextManual.pl. This is a perl script. It must be given exetutable permissions. 3. Build and install CinGG as usual. 4. The prerequisite for context help is CinelerraGG HTML manual. After installation of CinGG itself, place the complete unchanged directory CinelerraGG_Manual, as it was produced by latex2html from the manual package, into the 'doc' directory of the installed Cinelerra package. This will be the directory bin/doc/CinelerraGG_Manual if CinGG was built --with-single-user. The script ContextManual.pl should appear after installation also here, in bin/doc. 5. In principle, this is sufficient. Nevertheless, the bin/doc/ContextManual.pl script can be configured further. Look in the script text. You can define your preferable web browser, or redefine it to 'echo' for debug purposes. There are also some predefined HTML pages for Contents and Index, and several explicitly rewritten keyphrases. However, there can be hardly a need to redefine anything except the name of the browser executable. 6. Start Cinelerra and open a project with some assets, effects, keyframes, etc. May be, open some additional Cinelerra dialog windows, plugin settings, etc. Try to point with the mouse on different GUI elements or on empty spaces in different windows and press Alt/h. You should get different manual pages in the browser (if browser was not yet started, it should start automatically). How it works, from the user's point of view ------------------------------------------- The hotkey to request context help is Alt/h. Why? A simple 'h' does not fit: in text fields it has to input the letter 'h'. So is Shift/h: it would mean the capital letter 'H'. Ctrl/h and Ctrl/Shift/h are also not suitable: it is <Backspace>. Something like <F1> would be also not good, <Fn> are already utilized in Compositor. Unlike these all, Alt/h seems to be a good hotkey and, to the best of my knowledge, it is not assigned to anything else throughout the whole Cinelerra code. What particular help page is shown, depends on the mouse cursor location while Alt/h is pressed. Usually, when the mouse is located in some window or dialog, the help page related to the functionality of this window or dialog is shown. In this case the mouse can point either on some widget, or on an empty area in the window. In Cinelerra GUI there are several rich loaded windows, Timeline and Compositor for example. In such a case different help pages can be requested depending on the particular GUI element under the mouse. For example, pressing Alt/h while pointing on the Autos curve in a track would show help on automation keyframes, pointing on the Overlay mode button in the patchbay would show help on overlays, pointing on the camera control in Compositor would show help on camera and projector. If no context dependent help page is found, the manual page of Contents itself is shown. Most probably it means, that either the meaning of this window is obvious (so is the 'Tip of the day' window, for example), or it is not (yet) documented. Requesting context help for plugins ----------------------------------- There are following possibilities to request help page for the particular plugin of interest. 1) Pressing Alt/h with mouse in the dialog window of plugin settings 2) Pressing Alt/h while pointing with the mouse on the plugin bar in a track (or transition bar, or transition icon) 3) Pressing Alt/h while pointing on the plugin name (icon) in the Resources window. If plugin tooltips are on, help for the highlighted (plugin under mouse) is shown. If plugin tooltips are off, help for the selected plugin is shown (it is made so, because in the latter case it would be difficult to figure out, without a visual feedback, which particular item is currently under mouse). 4) Pressing Alt/h while pointing on the plugin name in the Attach Effect dialog Requesting context help on Contour Shuttle ------------------------------------------ Contour Shuttle has no Alt/h, yeh. Nevertheless, its help page can be requested by simultaneous pressing both Alt keys (left and right) on the keyboard followed by pressing any button on the Contour Shuttle. Here, pressing both Alt keys is necessary due to the way of X11 to track the status of modifiers. To cancel this mode, press any single modifier key (Alt, Ctrl or Shift) once. _______________________________________________________________________________ Georgy Salnikov NMR Group Novosibirsk Institute of Organic Chemistry Lavrentjeva, 9, 630090 Novosibirsk, Russia Phone +7-383-3307864 Email sge(a)nmr.nioch.nsc.ru _______________________________________________________________________________

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Fwd: Webpage Translation into Spanish
by Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux 29 Jan '22

29 Jan '22

Hi dear Phyllis Spanish translation of the terms of the appearance tab of the configuration: Autosave continous backups = *Copia de seguridad continua* The tip in Spanish = *Cuando cierre Cinelerra se guardarán unicamente las últimas 50 copias de seguridad. Si trabaja durante mucho tiempo sin reiniciar Cinelerra, corre el riesgo de ocupar mucho espacio con las continuas copias de seguridad.* Greetings!!

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I wonder if old bug 967 still with us?
by Andrew Randrianasulu 04 Sep '21

04 Sep '21

https://web.archive.org/web/20140213170701/http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ticket… Cinelerra version indicated in bugreport was 2.1.5, but there was no resolution ('resolved/fixed' ), so I wonder if this bug still lurking somewhere in CinGG and messing up some timelines... ====copypasta== I create an imagelist and load it on the timeline. Cinelerra plays it back correctly till the end where the bug appears: after the last frame the last-but-one frame is added and played back. When playing back frame by frame a blank frame is added and played back. The bug depends on the framerate of the imagelist. I attach a folder with images, lists and an XML project where lists with 5, 8, 10, 12, 15, 20, 25 and 30 fps are tested: 5 -> Correct normal playback but 2 blank frames when played back frame by frame. 8 -> Bug! 10 -> Bug! 12 -> Bug! 15 -> OK 20 -> OK 25 -> OK 30 -> OK NB: 12 fps is the traditional framerate for animation. I first noticed this bug in 2008, when editing my first quick pace animation. WORKAROUND: Make your image sequence longer by copying 2-3 times the last image in your image folder, giving appropriate names (keep the numering of the sequence). Add them to your image list file in a text editor or recreate the imagelist file. Reopen your XML project in Cinelerra. The playback should now be OK. Change History Changed 2 years ago by raffa cc raffaella.traniello@… added Just preparing the attachment now I noticed the bug is present only with 720x576 images. Changing the images resolution to 640x480 or 375x300 makes the imagelists to be played back correctly. NOTE: 720x576 is the standard animation resolution when capturing from MiniDV cameras via firewire framegrabbers. The attachment is too big to be attached here (742.5 KB). You can download it at http://g-raffa.eu/TestImageList.tar.gz It contains a Cinelerra project with lists in different resolution and framerates. === i saved tgz archive into archive.org, so it should be downloadable by directly clicking on link from archived page...

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There is a new Plugin in town - Speed PerCent
by Phyllis Smith 02 Sep '21

02 Sep '21

A contributor has made a new Video plugin available and it is checked into GIT as Speed PerCent. Very nice. It is self-explanatory. See attachment.

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small error in download area?
by Andrew Randrianasulu 01 Sep '21

01 Sep '21

i tried to follow (click on) all links in https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/ and very first one (Arch) just takes me to 'page not found' /news section.. https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/arch-package/ other links correctly display their distro-specific pages with notice about switching to appimage..

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August new release of CinGG appimages with FFmpeg upgrade to 4.4
by Phyllis Smith 01 Sep '21

01 Sep '21

New releases and manual updates are now available at the usual places: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20210831-x86_64.AppImage https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20210831-x86_64-older_distro… https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20210831-multibit.AppImage https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20210831-i386.AppImage https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual.pdf https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/ https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/releasenotes.pdf Fun things to try are some of the new FFmpeg 4.4 plugins such as F_shufflepixels, F_colorize, F_exposure, and F_Kirsch. ******************* Release Notes excerpts ****************** *GIT for Cinelerra-GG has the following changes from 08/01/2021-08/31/2021* A forum post by *fary54* concerning an upgrade of the Debian O/S from 10 to 11 and a new install of Ardour on 11 has uncovered a crash problem that could affect other operating system upgrades and application installs. Basically your setting of LV2_PATH in $HOME/.bcast5/Cinelerra_rc may have to be edited to revert to the default of $CIN_DAT/lv2. Find more information in the Manual. *Andrew R Contributions:* A fix is now in so that when using In/Out pointers on an empty track/location, “attach effect” correctly adds the plugin. FFmpeg has been upgraded from 4.3 to 4.4 since Andrew provided the necessary patch revisions and location of the tgz file. It includes some new audio/video plugin filters: chromanr, afreqshift, aphaseshift, adenorm, asupercut, asubcut, asuperpass, asuperstop, shufflepixels, tmidequalizer, estdif, epx, shear, kirsch, colortemperature, colorcontrast, colorcorrect, colorize, aexciter, exposure, monochrome . FAST_SPEED and SLOW_SPEED variables can be added to $HOME/.bcast5/Cinelerra_rc if you want to change the default Fast Forward speed to be different from the default of double speed and Slow Forward speed to be different from the default of ½ speed. Editing this file can be destructive. A new choice of EXR Sequence is now available for Background Rendering File Format in Settings, Preferences, Performance tab. For libvpx, the build now disables building unit-tests and examples, thus saving quite a lot of disk space and some compile time. Another minor code change that should have no user impact is the addition of “const” for AVCodec. *Andrea Paz Contributions:* Testing of variations of multibit, the updated ffmpeg 4.4 version, anything newly checked into GIT. Updated expanders.txt and plugin.opts to represent new plugin filters in ffmpeg 4.4 and info updates. Manual updates as needed to include the new Speed PerCent plugin. *Anonymous Contributions:* Speed PerCent video plugin contribution is self-explanatory in usage. This plugin will be easier for new users to locate in the Resources window and to use than ReframeRT upon which it is based. A Freelancer created the necessary CinGG fix for ffmpeg 4.4 where the last few frames were being dropped when rendering. Bluray media test and tests by Andrea found this error that was preventing the upgrade from being feasible earlier.

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