January 2023 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

FranceBB's LUT collection
by Andrew Randrianasulu 16 May '25

16 May '25

forum https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=176091 it says those LUTs should be usable for ffmpeg's lut3d and therefore for CinGG? github (each *.cube can be several mb's big) https://github.com/FranceBB/LinearTransformation author says they were verified on professional equipment... list includes PAL and NTSC variants for rec. 601....

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I tried to add AVC-Intra 100 output profiles
by Andrew Randrianasulu 08 May '25

08 May '25

But not sure if I did this correctly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVC-Intra says for AVC-Intra 100: AVC-Intra 100: nominally 100 Mbit/s, size of each frame is fixed CAVLC entropy coding only. All formats are High 4:2:2 Intra Profile, Level 4.1 4:2:2 chrominance sampling frames are not scaled and yeah, this French-language pdf actually says the same: https://web.archive.org/web/20110720215759/http://www.ficam.fr/upload/docum… 50M 100M Standard MPEG-4 part10 AVC/H.264 Profile High 10 Intra High 4:2:2 Intra Level Level 3.2/4.0 Level 4.1 Resolution 1440x1080 / 960x720 1920x1080 / 1280x720 Sampling 4:2:0 4:2:2 Bit rate 54Mbps 111Mbps Block size Y: 8x8, C: 4x4 Intra Prediction Y: 9mode, C: 4mode MBAFF Yes De-block filter No Slice/frame 10 Entropy coding CABAC CAVLC so, I looked up ffmpeg cmd line https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/3597 ffmpeg -v info -i /mnt-data/backup4/vol0/export/CUHK\ 2014-1/V017b.mov -vcodec libx264 -intra -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -vb 100M -x264opts avcintra-class=100 -x264opts colorprim=bt709 -x264opts transfer=bt709 -x264opts colormatrix=bt709 -threads 4 -acodec copy V017b-ffmpeg-git-avcintra100.mov Huh, said I and entered those params in opts file, actually in two files (mp4 and mov containers) mov libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 mp4 libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 both for progressive content, for interlace you must add some more flags: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2017-January/035049.html -flags +ildct+ilme -x264opts interlaced=1 Also, there is still lack of (GUI) user notification if file writing failed due to NO SPACE on device :} FFStream::write_packet: write packet failed. file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::encode_frame: encode failed. file: /dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::flush failed :file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: Операция не позволена Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.585 secs, 3.190 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.485 secs, 3.194 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 82.176 secs, 3.322 fps Profile sort of assumes you set project to some supported resolution, framerate, etc, otherwise libx264 will fail with console error message..... I found some talk about AVC-Ultra, there even was patch for x264, but it was not merged: https://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/x264-devel/2015-September/011412.html Also, I think sound must be uncompressed, but I'm not sure.

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offtopic: Quantel boxes
by Andrew Randrianasulu 25 Aug '24

25 Aug '24

Because I monitor mame WIP thread I saw some news about Quantel Paintbox emulation in MAME (0) and then I randomly followed some links to other Quantel systems Like HAL (basically like hardware compositor) http://dexterslab2013.blogspot.com/2018/03/quantel-hal-video-compositing-sy… 99 layers of SD images or video, up to 15 min storage on 20 disk array! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4k15hpeGzBA if you have half of hour you can watch this demo from 1997. Biggest thing so far for me? We are free to use old-fashioned optical effects in front of real camera too :) (0) - https://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=120292&page…

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New release update
by Phyllis Smith 19 Jul '24

19 Jul '24

October 2022 end of month new release AppImages now available. This includes a fix for a minor ffmpeg 5.1 security flaw that Andrew discovered and made us a patch for. Full release notes at: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/releasenotes.pdf . ************ October Release Notes update ****************** *Security flaw in FFmpeg 5.1* was discovered and Andrew forwarded the patch for us to use. A *Direct Copy speed-up* has been added for EXR and PPM sequences that Andrew found. Tiny corrections and addition to Cinelerra_factory presets and plugin.opts. Newer versions of Ubuntu require an additional package install for *bld_prepare.sh as Goat found*. The Manual has had another section added, *Alternative Views of Overlay Modes*, which presents a more “real world” usage display of the overlay modes using a color/black & white gradient + video.

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Use MAXCHANNELS define in mwindow.C
by Andrew Randrianasulu 25 Jan '24

25 Jan '24

Rest of CinGG seems to use it: guest@slax:/dev/shm/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra$ grep 'MAXCHANNELS' *.C arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) delete buffer[i]; arender.C: meter_history->init(MAXCHANNELS, calculate_history_size()); arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) arender.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) assetedit.C: (int)MAXCHANNELS, x, y, xS(50)) audioconfig.C: CLAMP(oss_in_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); audioconfig.C: CLAMP(oss_duplex_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); convert.C: for( int i=0; i < MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) pan_auto->values[i] = 0; convert.C: if( atrack >= MAXCHANNELS ) atrack = 0; dcoffset.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) dc_offset[i] = 0; edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: Workarounds::clamp(audio_channels, 0, MAXCHANNELS - 1); edlsession.C: Workarounds::clamp(video_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS - 1); edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { fileformat.C: : BC_TumbleTextBox(fwindow, (int)atol(text), (int)1, (int)MAXCHANNELS, x, y, 50) mwindowedit.C: for( int i=0; i < MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { panauto.C: bzero(values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); panauto.C: bzero(values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); panauto.C: memcpy(this->values, pan_auto->values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); preferences.C: while( channels < MAXCHANNELS ) { preferences.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { preferences.C: for( int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++ ) { record.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { record.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { recordgui.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { renderengine.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { resourcethread.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) resourcethread.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) resourcethread.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { setformat.C: CLAMP(new_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); setformat.C: add_subwindow(new BC_ITumbler(channels, 0, MAXCHANNELS, setformat.C: int new_channels = CLIP(atoi(get_text()), 0, MAXCHANNELS); tracking.C: double output_levels[MAXCHANNELS]; virtualanode.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) vtracking.C: double output_levels[MAXCHANNELS]; vwindowgui.C: Samples *samples[MAXCHANNELS]; vwindowgui.C: while( ch < MAXCHANNELS ) samples[ch++] = 0; guest@slax:/dev/shm/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra$ grep 'MAXCHANNELS' *.h arender.h: Samples *audio_out[MAXCHANNELS]; arender.h: Samples *buffer[MAXCHANNELS]; arender.h: int buffer_allocated[MAXCHANNELS]; dcoffset.h: int dc_offset[MAXCHANNELS], dc_offset_total[MAXCHANNELS], dc_offset_count; edlsession.h: int achannel_positions[MAXCHANNELS]; edlsession.h: int vchannel_x[MAXCHANNELS]; edlsession.h: int vchannel_y[MAXCHANNELS]; maxchannels.h:#ifndef MAXCHANNELS maxchannels.h:#define MAXCHANNELS 32 panauto.h: float values[MAXCHANNELS]; preferences.h: int channel_positions[MAXCHANNELS][MAXCHANNELS]; record.h: int64_t dc_offset[MAXCHANNELS]; recordgui.h: RecordGUIDCOffsetText *dc_offset_text[MAXCHANNELS]; recordgui.h: BC_Meter *meter[MAXCHANNELS]; virtualanode.h: Auto *pan_before[MAXCHANNELS], *pan_after[MAXCHANNELS]; so I used it for max number of channels for auto-created project (was just 6): diff --git a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C index f245018a..690c7ef8 100644 --- a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C +++ b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C @@ -5088,7 +5107,7 @@ int MWindow::select_asset(Asset *asset, int vstream, int astream, int delete_tra int channels = 0; for( uint64_t mask=channel_mask; mask!=0; mask>>=1 ) channels += mask & 1; if( channels < 1 ) channels = 1; - if( channels > 6 ) channels = 6; + if( channels > MAXCHANNELS ) channels = MAXCHANNELS; session->audio_tracks = session->audio_channels = channels; int *achannel_positions = preferences->channel_positions[session->audio_channels-1]; =====

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arm/termux series (possibly broken on x86)
by Andrew Randrianasulu 11 Jun '23

11 Jun '23

strangely enough, this patch series builds with dv-stuff correctly now.. no build/link/runtime errors.. based on git commit 9d54c23d957

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Weird world of WINDOW_CONFIG!
by Andrew Randrianasulu 02 Jun '23

02 Jun '23

so, I looked in mainsession.C while hunting about a_x11_host callsites see what I found: void MainSession::default_window_positions(int window_config) { // 0 - all windows on a, playback_config a // 1 - all windows on b, playback_config b // 2 - all windows on a, except composer on b, playback_config b but in reality this config set everything on A (Xephyr screen) A_X11_HOST :1.0 B_X11_HOST :0.0 WINDOW_CONFIG 2 this config set everything BUT compositor on A A_X11_HOST :1.0 B_X11_HOST :0.0 WINDOW_CONFIG 1 this config set only compositor on B: A_X11_HOST :0.0 B_X11_HOST :1.0 WINDOW_CONFIG 1 and this config se ALL on A A_X11_HOST :0.0 B_X11_HOST :1.0 WINDOW_CONFIG 0 so check your Cinelerra_rc for WINDOW_CONFIG value!

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Workflow issues for multitrack editing
by Stefan de Konink 17 Feb '23

17 Feb '23

When I am creating content I am typically using 2 or more camera's, each with indepedent recordings. Much of my time goes into the alignment of such recordings. Within Cinelerra single files have some scratch area using the viewer to set in and out points. Still the viewer does not show an audio waveform while editing. And certainly does not allows the alignment of two or multiple tracks. When I am editing I would love to have something like a *multitrack* scratch space. The only way I am aware of that can achieve this is creating a second Cinerella instance working on its own EDL. This would allow me to edit some 'sub project' that can later be imported again. When *reviewing* content, it is not obvious at all which files should be part of these subprojects in the first place. Sure there might be a specific section (or take) that would be on camera A and B, but camera C might have a continuous recording not falling in the category of take. I wonder how people approach these subprojects with respect to workflow and quality. Once you have set up a take, would you bring that take to the main project? Would you first render it? What are best practises for this? -- Stefan

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Working on adding GPL license attribution for all program files
by Phyllis Smith 15 Feb '23

15 Feb '23

As Andrew pointed out: "GPL license states each file should have attribution ...." so I checked into GIT the addition of missing GPL information for the *guicast subdirectory *and am working on the cinelerra subdirectory and eventually plugins subdirectory. Some notes: 1) When header missing, first checked to see if file exists in Cinelerra HV-8 or CV. If files existed there but no header, used header in like files. For example, bccmodels.inc in HV-8 had no header but bccmodels.C did, so used the same one. 2) Files, like bootstrap.c, that exist in HV and have no header, I left unchanged because I have no idea where this file came from and it has an extension of lower case "c" instead of upper case "C". 3) Any file in Cinelerra-HV that did not have the Copyright/Name/Year, I did not change in CinGG, so that it would match. If Andrew has time to verify and thinks something should have been done differently, please let me know.

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For next month: more build BSD fixes!
by Andrew Randrianasulu 03 Feb '23

03 Feb '23

FreeBSD 13.0 was driving me mad full day! For some reason gmake included there was not setting python variable, so I spend a lot of time trying to imagine some workaround not breaking all other configs .. I think those patches works on both FreeBSD 12.3 And 13.0 and NetBSD 9.2 And Slackware 15.0 And termux .. uffff...

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