February 2022 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

FranceBB's LUT collection
by Andrew Randrianasulu 16 May '25

16 May '25

forum https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=176091 it says those LUTs should be usable for ffmpeg's lut3d and therefore for CinGG? github (each *.cube can be several mb's big) https://github.com/FranceBB/LinearTransformation author says they were verified on professional equipment... list includes PAL and NTSC variants for rec. 601....

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I tried to add AVC-Intra 100 output profiles
by Andrew Randrianasulu 08 May '25

08 May '25

But not sure if I did this correctly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVC-Intra says for AVC-Intra 100: AVC-Intra 100: nominally 100 Mbit/s, size of each frame is fixed CAVLC entropy coding only. All formats are High 4:2:2 Intra Profile, Level 4.1 4:2:2 chrominance sampling frames are not scaled and yeah, this French-language pdf actually says the same: https://web.archive.org/web/20110720215759/http://www.ficam.fr/upload/docum… 50M 100M Standard MPEG-4 part10 AVC/H.264 Profile High 10 Intra High 4:2:2 Intra Level Level 3.2/4.0 Level 4.1 Resolution 1440x1080 / 960x720 1920x1080 / 1280x720 Sampling 4:2:0 4:2:2 Bit rate 54Mbps 111Mbps Block size Y: 8x8, C: 4x4 Intra Prediction Y: 9mode, C: 4mode MBAFF Yes De-block filter No Slice/frame 10 Entropy coding CABAC CAVLC so, I looked up ffmpeg cmd line https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/3597 ffmpeg -v info -i /mnt-data/backup4/vol0/export/CUHK\ 2014-1/V017b.mov -vcodec libx264 -intra -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -vb 100M -x264opts avcintra-class=100 -x264opts colorprim=bt709 -x264opts transfer=bt709 -x264opts colormatrix=bt709 -threads 4 -acodec copy V017b-ffmpeg-git-avcintra100.mov Huh, said I and entered those params in opts file, actually in two files (mp4 and mov containers) mov libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 mp4 libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 both for progressive content, for interlace you must add some more flags: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2017-January/035049.html -flags +ildct+ilme -x264opts interlaced=1 Also, there is still lack of (GUI) user notification if file writing failed due to NO SPACE on device :} FFStream::write_packet: write packet failed. file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::encode_frame: encode failed. file: /dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::flush failed :file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: Операция не позволена Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.585 secs, 3.190 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.485 secs, 3.194 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 82.176 secs, 3.322 fps Profile sort of assumes you set project to some supported resolution, framerate, etc, otherwise libx264 will fail with console error message..... I found some talk about AVC-Ultra, there even was patch for x264, but it was not merged: https://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/x264-devel/2015-September/011412.html Also, I think sound must be uncompressed, but I'm not sure.

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Use MAXCHANNELS define in mwindow.C
by Andrew Randrianasulu 25 Jan '24

25 Jan '24

Rest of CinGG seems to use it: guest@slax:/dev/shm/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra$ grep 'MAXCHANNELS' *.C arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) delete buffer[i]; arender.C: meter_history->init(MAXCHANNELS, calculate_history_size()); arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) arender.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) assetedit.C: (int)MAXCHANNELS, x, y, xS(50)) audioconfig.C: CLAMP(oss_in_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); audioconfig.C: CLAMP(oss_duplex_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); convert.C: for( int i=0; i < MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) pan_auto->values[i] = 0; convert.C: if( atrack >= MAXCHANNELS ) atrack = 0; dcoffset.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) dc_offset[i] = 0; edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: Workarounds::clamp(audio_channels, 0, MAXCHANNELS - 1); edlsession.C: Workarounds::clamp(video_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS - 1); edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { fileformat.C: : BC_TumbleTextBox(fwindow, (int)atol(text), (int)1, (int)MAXCHANNELS, x, y, 50) mwindowedit.C: for( int i=0; i < MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { panauto.C: bzero(values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); panauto.C: bzero(values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); panauto.C: memcpy(this->values, pan_auto->values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); preferences.C: while( channels < MAXCHANNELS ) { preferences.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { preferences.C: for( int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++ ) { record.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { record.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { recordgui.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { renderengine.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { resourcethread.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) resourcethread.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) resourcethread.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { setformat.C: CLAMP(new_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); setformat.C: add_subwindow(new BC_ITumbler(channels, 0, MAXCHANNELS, setformat.C: int new_channels = CLIP(atoi(get_text()), 0, MAXCHANNELS); tracking.C: double output_levels[MAXCHANNELS]; virtualanode.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) vtracking.C: double output_levels[MAXCHANNELS]; vwindowgui.C: Samples *samples[MAXCHANNELS]; vwindowgui.C: while( ch < MAXCHANNELS ) samples[ch++] = 0; guest@slax:/dev/shm/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra$ grep 'MAXCHANNELS' *.h arender.h: Samples *audio_out[MAXCHANNELS]; arender.h: Samples *buffer[MAXCHANNELS]; arender.h: int buffer_allocated[MAXCHANNELS]; dcoffset.h: int dc_offset[MAXCHANNELS], dc_offset_total[MAXCHANNELS], dc_offset_count; edlsession.h: int achannel_positions[MAXCHANNELS]; edlsession.h: int vchannel_x[MAXCHANNELS]; edlsession.h: int vchannel_y[MAXCHANNELS]; maxchannels.h:#ifndef MAXCHANNELS maxchannels.h:#define MAXCHANNELS 32 panauto.h: float values[MAXCHANNELS]; preferences.h: int channel_positions[MAXCHANNELS][MAXCHANNELS]; record.h: int64_t dc_offset[MAXCHANNELS]; recordgui.h: RecordGUIDCOffsetText *dc_offset_text[MAXCHANNELS]; recordgui.h: BC_Meter *meter[MAXCHANNELS]; virtualanode.h: Auto *pan_before[MAXCHANNELS], *pan_after[MAXCHANNELS]; so I used it for max number of channels for auto-created project (was just 6): diff --git a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C index f245018a..690c7ef8 100644 --- a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C +++ b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C @@ -5088,7 +5107,7 @@ int MWindow::select_asset(Asset *asset, int vstream, int astream, int delete_tra int channels = 0; for( uint64_t mask=channel_mask; mask!=0; mask>>=1 ) channels += mask & 1; if( channels < 1 ) channels = 1; - if( channels > 6 ) channels = 6; + if( channels > MAXCHANNELS ) channels = MAXCHANNELS; session->audio_tracks = session->audio_channels = channels; int *achannel_positions = preferences->channel_positions[session->audio_channels-1]; =====

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arm/termux series (possibly broken on x86)
by Andrew Randrianasulu 11 Jun '23

11 Jun '23

strangely enough, this patch series builds with dv-stuff correctly now.. no build/link/runtime errors.. based on git commit 9d54c23d957

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proot on termux
by Andrew Randrianasulu 30 Sep '22

30 Sep '22

I have i386 debian 11 on my arm tablet now, but road to it was somewhat bumpy. debootstrap as provided by termux does not like --foreign option, so I tried modification of scrip commands found at https://github.com/sp4rkie/debian-on-termux/blob/master/debian_on_termux_10… (I have Android 10 tablet) $ debootstrap --variant=minbase --exclude=systemd --arch=i386 bullseye deb_11 but you need to set main repo here or create debootstrap/mirror by hand REPO=http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unset LD_PRELOAD $ proot -0 -b /dev -b /sys -b /proc -b /system -b /apex --link2symlink -r deb_11/ -q qemu-i386 /bin/bash --login (for some reason my system need /system and /apex added to proot bind directories for qemu to function) this worked but ssl / ca-certificates were not installed, and coreutils for some reason needed re-install by dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/pkg.deb also debootstrap/debootstap script had termux pathes in it, so I edited them back for normal Linux/debian pathes after installing /etc/resolv.conf network/apt worked but building man page index was a bit slow. Installing libgtk2.0-dev resulted in 1.011 Gb directory simple openssl benchmark: root@localhost:~# openssl speed sha256 Doing sha256 for 3s on 16 size blocks: 275533 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 64 size blocks: 175841 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 256 size blocks: 65455 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 20649 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 2779 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 16384 size blocks: 1389 sha256's in 2.98s OpenSSL 1.1.1k 25 Mar 2021 built on: Tue Aug 24 08:28:12 2021 UTC options:bn(64,32) rc4(8x,mmx) des(long) aes(partial) blowfish(ptr) compiler: gcc -fPIC -pthread -Wa,--noexecstack -Wall -Wa,--noexecstack -g -O2 -ffile-prefix-map=/build/openssl-eBODPh/openssl-1.1.1k=. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -DOPENSSL_USE_NODELETE -DL_ENDIAN -DOPENSSL_PIC -DOPENSSL_CPUID_OBJ -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_PART_WORDS -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DRC4_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DAESNI_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DGHASH_ASM -DECP_NISTZ256_ASM -DPOLY1305_ASM -DNDEBUG -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed. type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes 16384 bytes sha256 1469.51k 3751.27k 5585.49k 7048.19k 7588.52k 7636.70k === $ termux-info Application version: unsupported Packages CPU architecture: arm Subscribed repositories: # sources.list deb https://termux.librehat.com/apt/termux-main/ stable main # x11-repo (sources.list.d/x11.list) deb https://packages.termux.org/apt/termux-x11 x11 main # science-repo (sources.list.d/science.list) deb https://packages.termux.org/apt/termux-science science stable # game-repo (sources.list.d/game.list) deb https://packages.termux.org/apt/termux-games games stable Updatable packages: mc/stable 4.8.27-2 arm [upgradable from: 4.8.25-3] Android version: 10 Kernel build information: Linux localhost 4.14.141+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 3 19:05:26 CST 2021 armv8l Android Device manufacturer: HUAWEI Device model: KOB2-L09 $ $ lscpu Architecture: armv8l Byte Order: Little Endian CPU(s): 8 On-line CPU(s) list: 0-7 Vendor ID: ARM Model name: Cortex-A53 Model: 4 Thread(s) per core: 1 Core(s) per socket: 4 Socket(s): 2 Stepping: r0p4 CPU max MHz: 2001.0000 CPU min MHz: 400.0000 BogoMIPS: 26.00 Flags: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfp v4 idiva idivt lpae evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32 $

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February release with just library updates
by Phyllis Smith 17 Apr '22

17 Apr '22

The latest release is available with minor Manual updates and updated libraries: libvpx from 1.8.2 to 1.11.0 (only minor testing done so report any issues) libogg from 1.3.4 to 1.3.5 tiff from 4.1.0 to 4.3.0 (except on Debian 11.0 Bullseye 32-bit where it did not build so reverted -- have to analyze yet) fftw from 3.3.8 to 3.3.10 March area of concentration will be aarch64 and termux testing/documentation (help by building and testing if you can!)

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cingg vaapi on i3-3227U cpu
by Andrew Randrianasulu 15 Apr '22

15 Apr '22

Well, I compiled new Cingg git (gcc 5.5.0, ~ Slackware 14.2, 32 bit (!)) file 1920x1080 24 fps h264 mkv from youtube no plugins/effects/transitions default project format - rgba-8bit and va-api works for me on both decoding (most visible cpu usage reduction if i set output to x11-direct - 60% g> 30%), on opengl output it really clise to same 60-70% cpu utilization (one core, dynamic freq.) and encoding you need to restart Cin after changing hw accel method But biggest thing was va-api h264 encoding - 130% cpu and 18 fps vs nearly 400% cpu and 2 fps (while file size more like 5 mb for software vs 13 mb for vaapi). And memory usage with sw encoding much higher = 800/900 mb vs 300 mb in va-api case. I nearly deadlocked this 4gb ram laptop while trying ram-only (tmpfs) build and encoding tests... zram + zswap helped surely...

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Re: [Cin] cinelerra-gg on ppc64el
by Daniel Reurich 02 Apr '22

02 Apr '22

Hi I've made some significant progress in getting the build going - and will have some patches to drop that solve some issues for builds using system libs and non x86 based archs. The current issue I'm stumbling on is that configure doesn't detect the systems liba52 and a52dec/a52.h header files as installed. This results in a linking failure during the build of libzmpeg Any thoughts on how I might overcome that? Thanks, Daniel. -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722

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Images sequence
by Andrea paz 25 Mar '22

25 Mar '22

I've tried to do a few renders with image sequences as output. The render is successful; the index file and all the image-frames are formed. Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 939 frames in 7.719 secs, 121.648 fps I attach the index file. You can see that it is constructed well but it does not contain the link to the various tiff images. So it is not possible to load it in CinGG. I have this error message: /home/paz/list/test%05d.tiff: Not a TIFF or MDI file, bad magic number 19785 (0x4d49). virtual int FileTIFF::read_frame_header(char*): Error while opening "/home/paz/list/test%05d.tiff" for reading. I tried with various tiff settings and other profiles (png and DPX) with the same result. If instead of ffmpeg I use the internal engine I get the expected result: the file list is complete with links to the various image-frames and the loading in CinGG is successful. Tried with tiff, png and openexr. Does it work for you to render image sequences with ffmpeg?

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Cinelerra context help - a complete implementation
by Georgy Salnikov 24 Mar '22

24 Mar '22

Hi all, This new implementation of Cinelerra context help can be requested from almost any Cinelerra window or subwindow by pointing with the mouse cursor on the GUI element of interest and pressing Alt/h. That HTML manual page will be shown via the configured web browser, which is assumed as most relevant to the GUI element being currently under the mouse pointer. For more information see issue 568 on the bugtracker: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=568 How to install, configure and demonstrate the new functionality --------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Apply the patch (see BT568) to the CinGG source tree: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/file_download.php?file_id=775&type=… 2. After patching one new file appears: doc/ContextManual.pl. This is a perl script. It must be given exetutable permissions. 3. Build and install CinGG as usual. 4. The prerequisite for context help is CinelerraGG HTML manual. After installation of CinGG itself, place the complete unchanged directory CinelerraGG_Manual, as it was produced by latex2html from the manual package, into the 'doc' directory of the installed Cinelerra package. This will be the directory bin/doc/CinelerraGG_Manual if CinGG was built --with-single-user. The script ContextManual.pl should appear after installation also here, in bin/doc. 5. In principle, this is sufficient. Nevertheless, the bin/doc/ContextManual.pl script can be configured further. Look in the script text. You can define your preferable web browser, or redefine it to 'echo' for debug purposes. There are also some predefined HTML pages for Contents and Index, and several explicitly rewritten keyphrases. However, there can be hardly a need to redefine anything except the name of the browser executable. 6. Start Cinelerra and open a project with some assets, effects, keyframes, etc. May be, open some additional Cinelerra dialog windows, plugin settings, etc. Try to point with the mouse on different GUI elements or on empty spaces in different windows and press Alt/h. You should get different manual pages in the browser (if browser was not yet started, it should start automatically). How it works, from the user's point of view ------------------------------------------- The hotkey to request context help is Alt/h. Why? A simple 'h' does not fit: in text fields it has to input the letter 'h'. So is Shift/h: it would mean the capital letter 'H'. Ctrl/h and Ctrl/Shift/h are also not suitable: it is <Backspace>. Something like <F1> would be also not good, <Fn> are already utilized in Compositor. Unlike these all, Alt/h seems to be a good hotkey and, to the best of my knowledge, it is not assigned to anything else throughout the whole Cinelerra code. What particular help page is shown, depends on the mouse cursor location while Alt/h is pressed. Usually, when the mouse is located in some window or dialog, the help page related to the functionality of this window or dialog is shown. In this case the mouse can point either on some widget, or on an empty area in the window. In Cinelerra GUI there are several rich loaded windows, Timeline and Compositor for example. In such a case different help pages can be requested depending on the particular GUI element under the mouse. For example, pressing Alt/h while pointing on the Autos curve in a track would show help on automation keyframes, pointing on the Overlay mode button in the patchbay would show help on overlays, pointing on the camera control in Compositor would show help on camera and projector. If no context dependent help page is found, the manual page of Contents itself is shown. Most probably it means, that either the meaning of this window is obvious (so is the 'Tip of the day' window, for example), or it is not (yet) documented. Requesting context help for plugins ----------------------------------- There are following possibilities to request help page for the particular plugin of interest. 1) Pressing Alt/h with mouse in the dialog window of plugin settings 2) Pressing Alt/h while pointing with the mouse on the plugin bar in a track (or transition bar, or transition icon) 3) Pressing Alt/h while pointing on the plugin name (icon) in the Resources window. If plugin tooltips are on, help for the highlighted (plugin under mouse) is shown. If plugin tooltips are off, help for the selected plugin is shown (it is made so, because in the latter case it would be difficult to figure out, without a visual feedback, which particular item is currently under mouse). 4) Pressing Alt/h while pointing on the plugin name in the Attach Effect dialog Requesting context help on Contour Shuttle ------------------------------------------ Contour Shuttle has no Alt/h, yeh. Nevertheless, its help page can be requested by simultaneous pressing both Alt keys (left and right) on the keyboard followed by pressing any button on the Contour Shuttle. Here, pressing both Alt keys is necessary due to the way of X11 to track the status of modifiers. To cancel this mode, press any single modifier key (Alt, Ctrl or Shift) once. _______________________________________________________________________________ Georgy Salnikov NMR Group Novosibirsk Institute of Organic Chemistry Lavrentjeva, 9, 630090 Novosibirsk, Russia Phone +7-383-3307864 Email sge(a)nmr.nioch.nsc.ru _______________________________________________________________________________

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