June 2022 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

FranceBB's LUT collection
by Andrew Randrianasulu 16 May '25

16 May '25

forum https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=176091 it says those LUTs should be usable for ffmpeg's lut3d and therefore for CinGG? github (each *.cube can be several mb's big) https://github.com/FranceBB/LinearTransformation author says they were verified on professional equipment... list includes PAL and NTSC variants for rec. 601....

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I tried to add AVC-Intra 100 output profiles
by Andrew Randrianasulu 08 May '25

08 May '25

But not sure if I did this correctly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVC-Intra says for AVC-Intra 100: AVC-Intra 100: nominally 100 Mbit/s, size of each frame is fixed CAVLC entropy coding only. All formats are High 4:2:2 Intra Profile, Level 4.1 4:2:2 chrominance sampling frames are not scaled and yeah, this French-language pdf actually says the same: https://web.archive.org/web/20110720215759/http://www.ficam.fr/upload/docum… 50M 100M Standard MPEG-4 part10 AVC/H.264 Profile High 10 Intra High 4:2:2 Intra Level Level 3.2/4.0 Level 4.1 Resolution 1440x1080 / 960x720 1920x1080 / 1280x720 Sampling 4:2:0 4:2:2 Bit rate 54Mbps 111Mbps Block size Y: 8x8, C: 4x4 Intra Prediction Y: 9mode, C: 4mode MBAFF Yes De-block filter No Slice/frame 10 Entropy coding CABAC CAVLC so, I looked up ffmpeg cmd line https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/3597 ffmpeg -v info -i /mnt-data/backup4/vol0/export/CUHK\ 2014-1/V017b.mov -vcodec libx264 -intra -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -vb 100M -x264opts avcintra-class=100 -x264opts colorprim=bt709 -x264opts transfer=bt709 -x264opts colormatrix=bt709 -threads 4 -acodec copy V017b-ffmpeg-git-avcintra100.mov Huh, said I and entered those params in opts file, actually in two files (mp4 and mov containers) mov libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 mp4 libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 both for progressive content, for interlace you must add some more flags: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2017-January/035049.html -flags +ildct+ilme -x264opts interlaced=1 Also, there is still lack of (GUI) user notification if file writing failed due to NO SPACE on device :} FFStream::write_packet: write packet failed. file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::encode_frame: encode failed. file: /dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::flush failed :file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: Операция не позволена Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.585 secs, 3.190 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.485 secs, 3.194 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 82.176 secs, 3.322 fps Profile sort of assumes you set project to some supported resolution, framerate, etc, otherwise libx264 will fail with console error message..... I found some talk about AVC-Ultra, there even was patch for x264, but it was not merged: https://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/x264-devel/2015-September/011412.html Also, I think sound must be uncompressed, but I'm not sure.

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Use MAXCHANNELS define in mwindow.C
by Andrew Randrianasulu 25 Jan '24

25 Jan '24

Rest of CinGG seems to use it: guest@slax:/dev/shm/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra$ grep 'MAXCHANNELS' *.C arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) delete buffer[i]; arender.C: meter_history->init(MAXCHANNELS, calculate_history_size()); arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { arender.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) arender.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) assetedit.C: (int)MAXCHANNELS, x, y, xS(50)) audioconfig.C: CLAMP(oss_in_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); audioconfig.C: CLAMP(oss_duplex_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); convert.C: for( int i=0; i < MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) pan_auto->values[i] = 0; convert.C: if( atrack >= MAXCHANNELS ) atrack = 0; dcoffset.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) dc_offset[i] = 0; edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { edlsession.C: Workarounds::clamp(audio_channels, 0, MAXCHANNELS - 1); edlsession.C: Workarounds::clamp(video_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS - 1); edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) edlsession.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) { fileformat.C: : BC_TumbleTextBox(fwindow, (int)atol(text), (int)1, (int)MAXCHANNELS, x, y, 50) mwindowedit.C: for( int i=0; i < MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { panauto.C: bzero(values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); panauto.C: bzero(values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); panauto.C: memcpy(this->values, pan_auto->values, MAXCHANNELS * sizeof(float)); preferences.C: while( channels < MAXCHANNELS ) { preferences.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { preferences.C: for( int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++ ) { record.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { record.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { recordgui.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { renderengine.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { resourcethread.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) resourcethread.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) resourcethread.C: for( int i=0; i<MAXCHANNELS; ++i ) { setformat.C: CLAMP(new_channels, 1, MAXCHANNELS); setformat.C: add_subwindow(new BC_ITumbler(channels, 0, MAXCHANNELS, setformat.C: int new_channels = CLIP(atoi(get_text()), 0, MAXCHANNELS); tracking.C: double output_levels[MAXCHANNELS]; virtualanode.C: for(int i = 0; i < MAXCHANNELS; i++) vtracking.C: double output_levels[MAXCHANNELS]; vwindowgui.C: Samples *samples[MAXCHANNELS]; vwindowgui.C: while( ch < MAXCHANNELS ) samples[ch++] = 0; guest@slax:/dev/shm/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra$ grep 'MAXCHANNELS' *.h arender.h: Samples *audio_out[MAXCHANNELS]; arender.h: Samples *buffer[MAXCHANNELS]; arender.h: int buffer_allocated[MAXCHANNELS]; dcoffset.h: int dc_offset[MAXCHANNELS], dc_offset_total[MAXCHANNELS], dc_offset_count; edlsession.h: int achannel_positions[MAXCHANNELS]; edlsession.h: int vchannel_x[MAXCHANNELS]; edlsession.h: int vchannel_y[MAXCHANNELS]; maxchannels.h:#ifndef MAXCHANNELS maxchannels.h:#define MAXCHANNELS 32 panauto.h: float values[MAXCHANNELS]; preferences.h: int channel_positions[MAXCHANNELS][MAXCHANNELS]; record.h: int64_t dc_offset[MAXCHANNELS]; recordgui.h: RecordGUIDCOffsetText *dc_offset_text[MAXCHANNELS]; recordgui.h: BC_Meter *meter[MAXCHANNELS]; virtualanode.h: Auto *pan_before[MAXCHANNELS], *pan_after[MAXCHANNELS]; so I used it for max number of channels for auto-created project (was just 6): diff --git a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C index f245018a..690c7ef8 100644 --- a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C +++ b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/mwindow.C @@ -5088,7 +5107,7 @@ int MWindow::select_asset(Asset *asset, int vstream, int astream, int delete_tra int channels = 0; for( uint64_t mask=channel_mask; mask!=0; mask>>=1 ) channels += mask & 1; if( channels < 1 ) channels = 1; - if( channels > 6 ) channels = 6; + if( channels > MAXCHANNELS ) channels = MAXCHANNELS; session->audio_tracks = session->audio_channels = channels; int *achannel_positions = preferences->channel_positions[session->audio_channels-1]; =====

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arm/termux series (possibly broken on x86)
by Andrew Randrianasulu 11 Jun '23

11 Jun '23

strangely enough, this patch series builds with dv-stuff correctly now.. no build/link/runtime errors.. based on git commit 9d54c23d957

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proot on termux
by Andrew Randrianasulu 30 Sep '22

30 Sep '22

I have i386 debian 11 on my arm tablet now, but road to it was somewhat bumpy. debootstrap as provided by termux does not like --foreign option, so I tried modification of scrip commands found at https://github.com/sp4rkie/debian-on-termux/blob/master/debian_on_termux_10… (I have Android 10 tablet) $ debootstrap --variant=minbase --exclude=systemd --arch=i386 bullseye deb_11 but you need to set main repo here or create debootstrap/mirror by hand REPO=http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unset LD_PRELOAD $ proot -0 -b /dev -b /sys -b /proc -b /system -b /apex --link2symlink -r deb_11/ -q qemu-i386 /bin/bash --login (for some reason my system need /system and /apex added to proot bind directories for qemu to function) this worked but ssl / ca-certificates were not installed, and coreutils for some reason needed re-install by dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/pkg.deb also debootstrap/debootstap script had termux pathes in it, so I edited them back for normal Linux/debian pathes after installing /etc/resolv.conf network/apt worked but building man page index was a bit slow. Installing libgtk2.0-dev resulted in 1.011 Gb directory simple openssl benchmark: root@localhost:~# openssl speed sha256 Doing sha256 for 3s on 16 size blocks: 275533 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 64 size blocks: 175841 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 256 size blocks: 65455 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 20649 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 2779 sha256's in 3.00s Doing sha256 for 3s on 16384 size blocks: 1389 sha256's in 2.98s OpenSSL 1.1.1k 25 Mar 2021 built on: Tue Aug 24 08:28:12 2021 UTC options:bn(64,32) rc4(8x,mmx) des(long) aes(partial) blowfish(ptr) compiler: gcc -fPIC -pthread -Wa,--noexecstack -Wall -Wa,--noexecstack -g -O2 -ffile-prefix-map=/build/openssl-eBODPh/openssl-1.1.1k=. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -DOPENSSL_USE_NODELETE -DL_ENDIAN -DOPENSSL_PIC -DOPENSSL_CPUID_OBJ -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_PART_WORDS -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DRC4_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DAESNI_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DGHASH_ASM -DECP_NISTZ256_ASM -DPOLY1305_ASM -DNDEBUG -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed. type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes 16384 bytes sha256 1469.51k 3751.27k 5585.49k 7048.19k 7588.52k 7636.70k === $ termux-info Application version: unsupported Packages CPU architecture: arm Subscribed repositories: # sources.list deb https://termux.librehat.com/apt/termux-main/ stable main # x11-repo (sources.list.d/x11.list) deb https://packages.termux.org/apt/termux-x11 x11 main # science-repo (sources.list.d/science.list) deb https://packages.termux.org/apt/termux-science science stable # game-repo (sources.list.d/game.list) deb https://packages.termux.org/apt/termux-games games stable Updatable packages: mc/stable 4.8.27-2 arm [upgradable from: 4.8.25-3] Android version: 10 Kernel build information: Linux localhost 4.14.141+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 3 19:05:26 CST 2021 armv8l Android Device manufacturer: HUAWEI Device model: KOB2-L09 $ $ lscpu Architecture: armv8l Byte Order: Little Endian CPU(s): 8 On-line CPU(s) list: 0-7 Vendor ID: ARM Model name: Cortex-A53 Model: 4 Thread(s) per core: 1 Core(s) per socket: 4 Socket(s): 2 Stepping: r0p4 CPU max MHz: 2001.0000 CPU min MHz: 400.0000 BogoMIPS: 26.00 Flags: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfp v4 idiva idivt lpae evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32 $

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blds/bld_prepare.sh update
by mnieuw＠zap.a2000.nl 04 Jul '22

04 Jul '22

Hi, attached is an update blds/bld_prepare.sh script. It has two changes: - Extra entries to install the patchelf, boost_regex and boost_filesystem packages. - A fix for Suse, the test for the link was failing. @Andrea, did not have time to add an Arch/Manjaro section. Suse installs all packages, but it fails on the linking stage of the new makeappimage tool. Have to look at it. MatN

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AppImages for June 2022 available but only a minor change
by Phyllis Smith 30 Jun '22

30 Jun '22

Just for consistency and because there was a need to add a fix for the Neophyte theme, I created June AppImages with very little change. I tried to update OpenEXR as provided by Manuel V and it worked just fine on a system that had cmake at 3.12 or greater but failed in Imath (as opposed to openexr) on systems with cmake lower than 3.12. I was OK with doing a build on these older systems by using --without-openexr but the configure.ac script as modified with the openexr provided patch would correctly not build openexr but still built Imath. Tried to fix this, however I do not understand much about how the configure.ac script works. Also, because of this, Imath in the thirdparty/src directory did not get deleted when running "make clean" either. In addition, although I got the attached script to work standalone, I could not get it stitched correctly into configure.ac as an alternative. Will keep trying so openexr can be upgraded next month so packages are kept as up to date as possible. (Plus still waiting for ffmpeg 5.1?) ******** GIT for Cinelerra-GG has the following changes from 06/01/2022-06/30/2022 ******* Numerous fixes to code and Makefile’s for *other distros by Andrew* + others and testing by Andrea: Needed for Android building, the libbthread code was added to the main CinGG directory. *IgorBegetto* has provided a new tutorial on Titles Animations: Lower Third effect at: https://youtu.be/m2UjsjiTlag The bld_prepare.sh script has been updated with 2 new options of “debian-testing” and “ubuntu- testing” to accommodate upcoming new operating system versions as *discovered by Miroslav*. *Neophyte theme* had a practically invisible disarmed track color as noted in issue BT 616 by Quintao which was probably an oversite but has now been fixed.

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Compositor screen stays empty after playing with video fader
by mnieuw＠zap.a2000.nl 30 Jun '22

30 Jun '22

Creating a small 1080p video with one title track op top and four short movies, the title track did not yet have any titles in it. I was trying to play with the audio and video fader in the patch panel. Editing mode was drag/drop, keyframe while editing generation not enabled. The four videos are time shifted so they play with an empty second in between. Initially this works fine. Audio fader works fine, it shows as horizontal stripes in the patchbay with a vertical bar through it. If fader view is enabled (3 on the kbd) you see it moving with the fader. The video fader only shows horizontal stripes, not the vertical bar. Neither does the fader view show a horizontal line. After some clicking on the video fader the vertical bar appeared, as the the horizontal line in the video track. The compositor window went black and stays black, whatever I try; sound is normal. If the video is not playing, then you can make the "safe regions" appear/disappear (F10), so it seems the compositor itself is OK. The video fader only seems to know values 1 and 0, more a switch that a fader... I have had this twice in a row, after starting a new project each time. Disable, then enabling a video track in the patchbay makes no difference. CinGG AppImage was 2022-04, machine AMD 5700G, video mode X11-openGL (just X11 same problem), hardware accel not working. Exiting and reloading CinGG make no difference, the only way to get the compositor back is start a new project; therefore it must be a stored setting somewhere. In the project .xml file the MUTEAUTOs and FADEAUTOS settings look the same for audio and video, else I don know what to look for. Obviously I am doing something wrong, any suggestions? MatN

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Re: [Cin] Compositor screen stays empty after playing with video fader
by mnieuw＠zap.a2000.nl 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 22:26:11 +0200 <mnieuw(a)zap.a2000.nl> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:04:44 +0300 > Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > ср, 29 июн. 2022 г., 22:46 mnieuw--- via Cin > > <cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org>: > > > > > > > > May be type of curves was set to 'bump'? > > It was not set at all (don't know what de default is). When I set it > to "smooth" it is still the same. > > The video fader is incomplete here when CinGG is started. This also > happens on a new build from the current git. Is this a bug or have > I set some config wrong? > Only when I click on the video fader a few times quickly (maybe > double click) the vertical bar and fader line appear. No need to load > any video. And it still is on/off positions only. > > When starting CinGG and simply doing a "safe as" as "test_before.xml", > then making the fader bar appear and saving the project under a > different name shows a single difference between the two .xml files. > > In the single video track FADEAUTOS, the value was 1 before the fader > was OK, and 100 after. > > MatN > >

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Re: [Cin] Compositor screen stays empty after playing with video fader
by mnieuw＠zap.a2000.nl 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 22:41:09 +0200 <mnieuw(a)zap.a2000.nl> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:36:37 +0300 > Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > ср, 29 июн. 2022 г., 23:26 <mnieuw(a)zap.a2000.nl>: > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:04:44 +0300 > > > Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > ср, 29 июн. 2022 г., 22:46 mnieuw--- via Cin > > > > <cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May be type of curves was set to 'bump'? > > > > > > It was not set at all (don't know what de default is). When I set > > > it to "smooth" it is still the same. > > > > > > The video fader is incomplete here when CinGG is started. This > > > also happens on a new build from the current git. Is this a bug > > > or have I set some config wrong? > > > Only when I click on the video fader a few times quickly (maybe > > > double click) the vertical bar and fader line appear. No need to > > > load any video. And it still is on/off positions only. > > > > > > > Well, i clicked with left mouse button for setting fade points on > > pink line and then clicked right mouse button on those set points > > and choose 'fade' context menu entry ...seems to work here? > > But I do not have a pink line, until I make the video fader complete. > The video fader is incomplete already when starting CinGG. No errors > are shown in the terminal it is started from. > > I am going to test on an older machine and OS. > > MatN

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