December 2018 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

Timeline: Move the clips with new features
by Igor BEGHETTO 27 Dec '18

27 Dec '18

This thread to shows how many place we can have to move the clips, and group, on Timeline. Timeline_Clips-SelectAndMove.ogv https://streamable.com/xfkkc source file: https://www.datafilehost.com/d/4d51f8a8 /* *** "Drag and Drop editing mode" *** */ - 07"...15": tried to drag with hold down LMB (Left Mouse Button ) and drag - 16"...22": multiple selections with LMB and move (Drag&Drop) with LMB - 23"...43": multiple selections with LMB and move with MMB (Middle Mouse Button), Mute&Past /* *** "Cut and Past editing mode" *** */ - 51"...1'14": multiple selections with Ctrl+LMB and move with MMB, Mute&Past Timeline_Group-SelectMakeAndMove.ogv https://streamable.com/7880b source file: https://www.datafilehost.com/d/3be67f3e /* *** "Drag and Drop editing mode" *** */ - 07"...30": multiple selections with LMB, group the clips with Shift+LMB, and move (Drag&Drop) with LMB - 49"...1'20": multiple selections with LMB, group the clips with Shift+LMB, and move with MMB, Mute&Past /* *** "Cut and Past editing mode" *** */ - 1'34"...2'27": multiple selections with Ctrl+LMB, group the clips with Ctrl+Shift+LMB, select the group with Shift+LMB, and move with MMB, Mute&Past Thanks. IgorBeg PS: From Cinelerra-GG's MantisBT Feature #0000007 Screencasts by Cin-gg ver. Ub16 built Dec 22 2018 14:49:05

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Summary Report for week Dec. 15 through Dec. 21 on Cinelerra-GG
by Phyllis Smith 22 Dec '18

22 Dec '18

*Summary Report for week Dec. 15 through Dec. 21 on Cinelerra-GG* *Website:* - Behind the scenes website maintenance by Sam is ongoing but is not too time-consuming. - A link to https://cinelerra-gg.org and the recommendation to move here has been added by “someone” to the previous ppa launchpad which used to have builds for the ubuntu cv version. *Forum:* - How To article by Andrea on “Correspondence between Waveforms and Curves/Histogram” added. - Q&A has 2 pointers to articles on sustainability of open projects and in particular Natron. - Community Help had a question about download but apparently the website is easy enough to traverse that download was located without help! *BugTracker:* (items and categorizing is not all accurate) *The race is on between issue #7 and #58 to see which one ends up with the most notes – were tied at 44!* *10 issues have been resolved, almost resolved or closed:*7 real drag and drop without having to lock tracks (not all aspects have been completed but very close) 48 proxy creation fails (resolved with a fix and minor documentation) 52 a better “search” feature for MantisBT (Sam provided information on how to do this) 56 make Cinelerra Download manual available in download page (Phyllis fixed documentation) 58 changeable colors for the titles and background (looks complete, will mark as resolve shortly) 59 packaging issues identified in source tree (this is resolved and will close soon) 60 cinelerra-gg sets unnecessary executable bits (this is resolved) 65 bug show assets and show titles (closed, working as expected) 68 title bar is too small on a 4K monitor (closed, easy workaround being used instead) 69 start the record window in non-english mode (resolved with a fix to sound devices comparison) *6 new bugs/feature requests have been added and not resolved or closed:* 63 add BRAW to News and "Motion Graphics" to Features 64 Global Color Management in CinGG 66 remove "w" shortcut from all windows which closes the window 67 the boxes encroach on French translations in Preferences (soon to be resolved) 70 resource window: thumbnail preview 71 improve Videoscope plugin *16 are still open as previously noted:* 2 masking enhancements and improvements 6 add a reset button to the video/audio plugins 25 Gui HiDPI future support 28 Add titler own background paper 31 the new function of identifying “source” targets still causes crashes (no new crashes yet) 34 label mouse over feature 35 translate the web site in different languages 37 select feature on media resources works bad if proxy enabled (still contemplating) 38 no red/white bar on preview vicon if proxy enabled (still contemplating) 42 live preview feature 44 phantom keyframes boxes (have not been able to reproduce yet; recognize is probably a bug) 45 load window apply minor bug (probably fix coming soon) 55 add filmmaking/editing section in forum (suggestions provided and may need more) 57 mark the thumbnail when the clip is used 61 fedora installation instructions on website do not copy/paste correctly (Phyllis

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Valgrind and Core Dump
by Andrea paz 20 Dec '18

20 Dec '18

With all the updates of recent times I wanted to try to use Valgrind. I got a crash with core dumps. I enclose it all in case it might be useful. Probably the crash is my fault that I tried to do several things at once. https://www.dropbox.com/s/rj0b0mhuyvg1kjl/val.log?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/25ncvd1mfwnrfgb/cinelerra_29181.dmp?dl=0

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Typo in git commit e23393f4ff9f772ac8f47926cf490dc87a630ed4 ?
by Andrew Randrianasulu 20 Dec '18

20 Dec '18

Hello all! Just watching development from aside for now ... In commit log it says: "add grouping, default proxy vcodec h264.mp4, default titlebar alpha=1, green bar bug" yet in cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/proxy.C change reads as https://git.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/cinelerra.git;a=blobdiff;f=cine… diff --git a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/proxy.C b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/proxy.C index 4394120..e368c17 100644 (file) --- a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/proxy.C +++ b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/proxy.C @@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ #define WIDTH 400 #define HEIGHT 330 #define MAX_SCALE 16 +#define PROXY_DEFAULT_VCODEC "h265.mp4" ProxyMenuItem::ProxyMenuItem(MWindow *mwindow) : BC_MenuItem(_("Proxy settings..."), _("Alt-r"), 'r') @@ -82,6 +83,7 @@ ProxyDialog::ProxyDialog(MWindow *mwindow) this->mwindow = mwindow; gui = 0; asset = new Asset; + strcpy(asset->vcodec, PROXY_DEFAULT_VCODEC); bzero(size_text, sizeof(char*) * MAX_SIZES); bzero(size_factors, sizeof(int) * MAX_SIZES); size_text[0] = cstrdup(_("Original size")); --------------------- so, it is really h264 or h265? h265 used to be slower .... And why so heavily-compressed vcodec anyway, I was always thinking about mjpeg or friends as best choice for proxies?

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0000069: Start the Record window in non-english language
by Andrea paz 18 Dec '18

18 Dec '18

> Andrea: if you rebuilt today, the fix would be in and it is good to know it does > not crash. I assume you tested by doing an "r" for record in the main window. > It really did crash in French reproducibly here so even if there was a problem > with your ALSA and jack, it still illustrated a long term bug. I write here because the ticket is solved and it is no longer possible to add notes. Yes, I tested the last release and I don't have crash doing r (record) in the main window.

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For Forum Administrator
by Andrea paz 17 Dec '18

17 Dec '18

Sam, sorry about the trouble again. I changed the video of the demo on youtube (by inserting the new mailing-list in the end credits) changing the link accordingly. The present one doesn't lead to any video anymore. Could you update to the new link? [Forum --> Look at Me --> Demo] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNDKEYz0SOI Thanks.

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Issue 58 - changable colors + rest of today's checkin
by Phyllis Smith 16 Dec '18

16 Dec '18

Some mods checked in today. BE AWARE that the color picker has been reworked and this is used by the Titler, Sketcher, Show Overlays, etc. A short demo of setting title bars color is at: https://www.datafilehost.com/d/bb0a4d4b Other mods checked in 1) updated license file COPYING 2) updated shortcuts.html 3) minor plugins.txt spelling corrections 4) updated cin.desktop again 5) user title - mutliple edits selectable Feedback on Issue #58 requested. Thanks, gg/Phyllis

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Color Management
by Andrea paz 16 Dec '18

16 Dec '18

After the implementation of CTRL+DRAG (#7), IMO CinGG has only two major issues to resolve: A true rotoscoping tool (#2) and colour management. You might want to try using OpenColorIO, as it's spreading like STD: http://opencolorio.org 1) Allows the exchange between the various software that support it (Blender, Natron, Krita, Nuke, After Effects, etc.) without resorting to manual conversions. 2) Install on the system (as LV2 plugins) and then configure it in CinGG. You can create custom configurations or use public ones (Sony Image Works, Nuke and ACES); that would allow CinGG to import Log files (REDLog, C-Log, etc.) and all the color models used in Pro. 3) It seems to me that there are detailed instructions and code examples on how to implement it. 4) It is compatible with any LUT and can create and convert them. 5) It can use the GPU. Not being a developer, I can't tell if it's possible to implement it. I think I understand that ffmpeg doesn't support it. What do you think? Mag, you're an colorist, do you think it's useless to have a real color management in a software like CinGG? After having deepened the topic I could open a ticket in Bug Tracker, perhaps using "HELP need".

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Website
by Andrea paz 16 Dec '18

16 Dec '18

@Sam, you could add something like this to the list of main Features entries: "Basic Motion Graphics"? I know, I'm obsessed. Sorry! :-) BRAW (Blackmagick RAW) could also be included in the News.

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Summary Report for week Dec. 8 through Dec. 14 on Cinelerra-GG
by Phyllis Smith 16 Dec '18

16 Dec '18

*Website:* - Sam continuously monitors the website and performs various server administration details to make sure that performance is as expected as usage ramps up. - Also, within the Forum and MantisBT there have been more items that require moderation by Sam. - Besides some page tweaks, Sam added a new bit of News from the Codec World. If you have some News you would like to share that may affect Cinelerra now or in the future, please pass it along so it can be added on the News page. *Forum:* - Tutorials in English are being requested by Terje. - How To article by Andrea on using Blue Banana to make a Chroma Key should prove useful to many. - Q&A has 3 pointers to some interesting websites. I thought OpenCine was particularly interesting. - Demo added by Phyllis (created by GoodGuy) shows some good usage for transitions in Cinelerra. *BugTracker:* A “HELP needed” tag should make it easy to locate problems or requests that might interest others. We are leaving resolved issues not closed for some period of time to make it easy for users who only occasionally visit to see them and will most likely close them a week after the end of the month builds are done. BTW: the lists below are often paraphrased and may be incomplete but I find it useful to create this list to review what needs to be done or find something that needs to be closed. *Several issues have been resolved and some have been closed: * 7 real drag and drop without having to lock tracks (not all aspects have been completed but very close) 8 windows layout not restored correctly (unmanaged window does not allow) 26 error deleting in timeline (fix applied and no further occurrences have been reported) 30 gitweb feature request for snapshot (not feasible, speed for user is minimal at expense of server) 32 increase the maximum zoom size of the new “source” target (resolved by adding this feature) 39 paste is not available for the forum (information provided to close this) 40 crash after deleting file in the media tab (resolved by bug fix) 41 flickering in the listbox of resources window (closed as no longer occurring) 43 extend working space of new “find pieces” feature (resolved by adding this feature) 46 context item delete in the clip tab broken (resolved by bug fix) 47 the preview window increased size is very pixelated (closed because this is memory constrained). 53 video effect color-3way white balance wrong (IgorBeghetto resolved by providing information) 54 shortcut digit keys for forward/reverse do not perform as expected (a little confusing, but is correct) *Quite a few new bugs/feature requests have been added as outlined below for you to check:* 31 the new function of identifying “source” targets still causes crashes (no new crashes yet) 34 label mouse over feature 35 translate the web site in different languages 37 select feature on media resources works bad if proxy enabled (still contemplating) 38 no red/white bar on preview vicon if proxy enabled (still contemplating) 42 live preview feature 44 phantom keyframes boxes (have not been able to reproduce yet; recognize is probably a bug) 45 load window apply minor bug (have to boot Leap to test; does not occur on Fedora with new bcast5) 48 proxy creation fails (mostly resolved, but some “to do” items in this ticket for Phyllis to respond to) 52 a better “search” feature than just ID for MantisBT 55 add filmmaking/editing section in forum (suggestions provided and may need more) 56 make Cinelerra Download manual available in download page (Sam did this, but Phyllis has work) 57 mark the thumbnail when the clip is used 58 changeable colors for the title and timeline background (gg started color for titles, “no” on background) 59 packaging issues identified in source tree (partially resolved, some more work to clean up) 60 cinelerra-gg sets unnecessary executable bits (mostly resolved but want to make sure good) 61 fedora installation instructions on website do not copy/paste correctly (Phyllis wants to fix this, having trouble) 62 google summer of code 2019 (HELP needed as administration might be overwhelming)

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