January 2019 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

MantisBT default settings changed
by Sam 10 Jan '19

10 Jan '19

Short info. I have set MantisBT to always display the latest notes first, so you don't have to scroll down all the time. This option can be set in the personal account settings at any time according to your personal taste. In the following ticket you will find a screenshot showing this setting. https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=109 Sam --

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Screenshot
by Andrea paz 09 Jan '19

09 Jan '19

A very stupid question. How do you make the screenshot of an open drop-down menu. This, to be clear: https://postimg.cc/gw3pPtKT I use Spectacle in KDE, but the pulldown window closes automatically if I try to make a stamp of the screen.

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Website
by Andrea paz 07 Jan '19

07 Jan '19

Translating part of the website pages into Italian, I realized the enormous work done by Sam. I'm not exaggerating: it's really a great job done well! Thank you very much, Sam.

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Text presenting Cinelerra-GG, for wikipedia
by Pierre autourduglobe 06 Jan '19

06 Jan '19

For discussion.... Here is the draft text that I propose to integrate into the current page about Cinelerra on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra) Pierre Cinelerra-GG Infinity: A separate branch of Cinelerra and the result of a longstanding programming work by W.P. Morrow (aka "goodguy"), Cinelerra-GG (CinGG) integrated the code of "Cinelerra-HV" from the beginning and its development went through "Cinelerra.Org" then "Cinelerra-CV" before continuing its growth in a completely distinct and autonomous way, now supported by its own site (https://www.cinelerra-gg.org) Cinelerra-GG is entirely free (GNU General Public License). It is the result of a long process of merging the code of the different branches and versions of Cinelerra and the additions available from many developers. It specially incorporates many original improvements (which have been and are still very often initiated at the request of its users). Cinelerra-GG is determined to get as close as possible to what can be expected from a "professional" level video editing software (NLE) for the Linux platform. Cinelerra-GG is very attentive to the requests and suggestions of its users, in the same way all proposals for code improvement submitted by developers are enthusiastically received. The "mailing list" (https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin) the "bug tracker" (https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/my_view_page.php) and the "forum" (https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/forum/) allow for discussions and exchanges of information. The list of additional new features that Cinelerra-GG adds to those already present in other branches is now too long to list in this short presentation. Instead, see the following document, which compares in a table the characteristics and features of the different Cinelerra branches: (https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/differences.pdf) Cinelerra-GG does not fall within the scope of version numbering of other Cinelerra branches. It is rather in perpetual development (Scrum model) and in a very dynamic way; Cinelerra-GG updates, which are intended to be "stable" quality, are published monthly for a large number of Linux and FreeBSD distributions. These rolling releases contain fixes to reported bugs as well as frequent feature improvements. To obtain Cinelerra-GG: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/downloads

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FYI: Changes checked into code repository today
by Phyllis Smith 06 Jan '19

06 Jan '19

The noticable changes to the Cinelerra-gg code today include: 1) File pulldown has the Dumps grouped together in the submenu which now include "Undo" - prints out on terminal window when started from a window. It will show the last 32 un-do's only generically in a program-atically way. 2) Double edge drag/drop (new way, not old one) now allows for overwrite and insert and colors are as follows: green means OK to drop yellow means OK to drop and will right next to the other edit AND if you hold down Shift at the same time, it makes a space too blue means OK to insert here between edits (this was not available to do before) red means while holding down Shift key and dragging, it will now let you overwrite on the edge (different than before) orange means you can not drop anywhere on this track; for example, you can not drop a video clip on an audio track We did not make any new builds, but will do so if requested since we always like more testers. gg/Phyllis

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Curiosity: Android Studio
by Andrea paz 05 Jan '19

05 Jan '19

Curiosity: why Android Studio? Isn't it just Java and just for android?

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Ungrouping of video and audio clips after some edits
by Xing Tu 05 Jan '19

05 Jan '19

It'd probably be easier to just show what's going on. Here's a short video https://youtu.be/QOSCdSH4Szc. Would this be considered a bug? Maybe there's some way around it... but it shouldn't be the default behavior.

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Forum registration - Key is invalid
by Jedi Knight 03 Jan '19

03 Jan '19

Hello I'd like to register to Your forum, but after registration/password change i see only message "Key is invalid" or something like that. Please, help. P.S. I have also this situation on two another WordPress-based websites forums. Awful CMS ... Happy new year with Cinelerra.

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Re: [Cin] Cin Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
by Wolfgang Brunner 03 Jan '19

03 Jan '19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXdCBwWy2TY Reframe Rt I had already as a topic Am Mi., 2. Jan. 2019 um 21:51 Uhr schrieb < cin-request(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org>: > Send Cin mailing list submissions to > cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cin-request(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cin-owner(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Cin digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Cinx - 10-bit h264 and/or h265 (Terje J Hanssen) > 2. Re: Ungrouping of video and audio clips after some edits (Xing Tu) > 3. ReframeRT, Interpolate Video (Andrea paz) > 4. Re: ReframeRT, Interpolate Video (Xing Tu) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:46:55 +0000 > From: Terje J Hanssen <terje(a)nordland-teknikk.no> > To: "cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org" <cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> > Subject: Re: [Cin] Cinx - 10-bit h264 and/or h265 > Message-ID: <ebc8550e-c8db-75c2-6ee9-96c5b5539eb4(a)nordland-teknikk.no> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Is Cinelerra10bit (Cinx) based on 10-bit x264 or 10-bit x265? > It is based on x265 BUT there is a enable flag in the build scripts for > anyone doing there own build to use x264 instead. > > Thank you for clarifying and confirming that, which was what I initially > thought. > > The confusion and uncorrected manual resulted in falsely believing that > the maintainers of x264 included the possibility of having both 8/10 bit > working without having to make a special compile. We were fooled for a > month or so and I had updated the manual and did not correct it > > Yes, I remember that (refer your previous mail 07.06.2018). > > But as Cinelerra (Cin) then is based on x264, I wonder if the following > reference below is something that has been incorporated later in x264 and > possibly yet change that "Cin" has the opportunity to work with both 8-bit > and 10-bit x264? > > x264 supports both 8-bit and 10-bit outputs, and you don't have to do > anything special. > ffmpeg -h encoder=libx264 > ...... > Previously you had to compile x264 with --bit-depth=10, and then link your > ffmpeg to either an 8-bit or 10-bit libx264, but that is now unnecessary. > See Unify 8-bit and 10-bit CLI and libraries for more info. > > https://video.stackexchange.com/questions/13164/encoding-422-in-10-bit-with… > See Unify 8-bit and 10-bit CLI and libraries for more info. > > https://git.videolan.org/?p=x264.git;a=commit;h=71ed44c7312438fac7c5c5301e4… > > > Very interesting and promising signals regarding better help and > documentation, if this succeed to make things easier for new users to start > with and next continue with Cinelerra. It is known this has been an > Achilles heel and has caused the impression of a steep learning curve. > > Terje > > > Den 02.01.2019 18:02, skrev Phyllis Smith: > Is Cinelerra10bit (Cinx) based on 10-bit x264 or 10-bit x265? > It is based on x265 BUT there is a enable flag in the build scripts for > anyone doing there own build to use x264 instead. > The confusion and uncorrected manual resulted in falsely believing that > the maintainers of x264 included the possibility of having both 8/10 bit > working without having to make a special compile. We were fooled for a > month or so and I had updated the manual and did not correct it > > GG is doing a Leap15 cinx experiment right now so I can get the wording > correct in the manual since we have not re-tested it in quite some time. > And I will try to be consistent in the terminology as you suggested too. > > A single, updated manual for "Cinelerra-GG Infinity" sounds to be to the > 'right time', and yes, I will report typos/faults/RFEs on areas I see the > demand for more detailed explanations or procedures. > > In general a 'single manual' needs to fill the demand for a combined > "Users Guide" beside a "Reference or Feature Guide", maybe also as a online > html and pdf print. And especially the new "gui ease of use" with the new > "Cinfinity plugins icon set" compared with the original default icons or KB > shortcuts as a reference. > Issue #77 in MantisBT is planned to be used to get reviewers help on the > manual. > > Maybe this is a possibility to create a more integrated Help-system for > Cinelerra-GG Infinity? > > I.e a "Help" menu with > > - link to the online manual > - context sensitive Help? > - the "About" button > Believe it or not we actually have 2 shortcut single letters left in the > english alphabet for use on the main window. One of these is "h" and we > are saving it for Help ! The other letter is "p" which I think should be > saved for "p-hyllis". > > P.S. gg's experiment was done faster than I could finish this email due to > interruptions. With CINX, you can ONLY create 10-bit output when you > render. gg/phyllis > > > >

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ReframeRT, Interpolate Video
by Andrea paz 03 Jan '19

03 Jan '19

I don't understand how these two plugins work. The explanations on manual-cv are not clear (for me, of course). Can someone who knows how to use them explain how they work? (it's used to make the new unified manual). GG/Phyllis you can't answer, it's just to make sure you don't waste your time :-)

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