September 2019 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

10 Sep '19

Hi, guys, For your information: There will be some important server updates during the weekend, so it may happen that the server / website will not always be available immediately. Sam --

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Window manager theme
by preobraz＠gmail.com 07 Sep '19

07 Sep '19

Hi all! Is it possible to apply window themes to Cinelerra by type, as shown in the video? Link: https://www.datafilehost.com/d/f663cf49 I want to be run constantly Cinelerra with only concrete window theme. -- Ugin.

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Timeline borders
by preobraz＠gmail.com 07 Sep '19

07 Sep '19

Dear developers! Now that you have done a tremendous amount of work to improve work with Cinelerra, you can pay attention to smaller issues. For example, to me personally, the border between the tracks is not at all obvious, especially when there are a lot of them. When the content is adjacent to the left side of the timeline, I understand where the border still somehow turns out (blue stroke). But in the absence of content, dealing with borders is much more difficult (red stroke). Link: https://pic4a.ru/98/2zM.png The proposals made were difficult for me, so I had to use an automatic translator. Regards, Ugin.

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Today's GIT checkin includes 2 new features + miscellaneous
by Phyllis Smith 06 Sep '19

06 Sep '19

Contributions to Cinelerra maintenance were checked in today and am noting them here in 1 place for easy reference. Builds for Ubuntu 18 and Ubuntu 16 are in the cinelerra-gg/download/testing area. *Crop & Position plugin* is new and has been added to the Geometry subset (entirely available thanks to an anonymous contributor). This is very nice and very convenient. A Crop Mantis BugTracker for the Compositor and any other suggestions is issue #275 with percent versus pixel in BT #212. Now is a good time to make your wishes known on cropping in general. *On the timeline, there is now a separator line *between tracks for easier visibility (Ugin suggestion). Render menus now update top line information when you click on render via labels. Render warnings added: “no audio or video in asset format” and “render file per label and no labels”. Changed Build scripts to not build libdav1d for 32-bit systems (Olivier recommendation). Updated copyright on Settings→Preferences, About screen (patch provided by Andrew). Also on the About screen, the August Features of Note was not done but is now (MatN notify). LV2 blacklist file updated to include 2 more lv2 plugins that fail (Olivier found and let us know).

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August new builds are available
by Phyllis Smith 06 Sep '19

06 Sep '19

Pkgs and tars for the end of the month build are ready for use. We tested both the static tar and the system package on Mint 19 this time. You can download them at: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/ In addition the complete releasenotes.pdf are in that directory. And now, presenting the Work-In-Progress (WIP) LaTex manual, which is incomplete but which includes the new Masking operations and all of the formatting enhancements that Andrea/Andrey have provided. https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_manual_WIP.pdf It is literally a work of art that they have created with all of the editing and formatting and being done in LaTex will make it much easier to keep it up to date. This month's release notes are included below but here is some personal commentary. - I ran a test on rendering/encoding to VP8 and VP9 on a small file and did not see any speed improvement with libvpx, but really it was a very small file. - FFmpeg upgrade to 4.2 has a couple of new filters and I do not understand a report of yuv420p10 issue. - Dav1d inclusion was a big problem for the older system builds. First, meson had to be at or above version 47 and only 5 out of 18 build systems were. Consequently, GG ended up eliminating the "meson" requirement and substituting the standard "make" instead. Then the "nasm" assembler on some of the older systems was not able to compile Dav1d so they had to be switched out for a working version. More information on this later. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cinelerra-GG (Version Infinity) *Release Notes for 08/01/2019-08/31/2019* for builds 1. *Upgraded ffmpeg* from 4.1.4 to 4.2 (*Andrew notification* of official release). 2. O/S distros on developer’s build systems have had upgrades applied. 3. *Libvpx has been upgraded* from 1.8.0 to 1.8.1. Per their release notes “various changes to improve encoder rate control, quality and speed for practically every use case” (*Deim notification* of release *).4. **Dav1d *is being used in place of libAOM for decode only in ffmpeg, providing purported *s*ignificant speedups of 2-5 times for AV1 media. Encode is only available using libAOM so will still be slow (Mantis BugTracker #*BT 214*). 5. *Usability Improvements:* Mask feathering algorithm has been improved by using an algorithm more close to the original based on a user request (*User direct reques*t). And Feathering which was limited to 100 pixels now allows for a much larger range by clicking on the button on either end and sliding at least 12 pixels past that point which increases it by a small percentage each time allowing you to move the slider past 100 (*User direct request*). Significant work was done on Feathering by the developer to improve performance and to ensure that using OpenGL as well as the X11 driver, produced the same (or almost the same results). A Batch Render warning is now shown to the user when the position is at the end of the media ( *Deim suggestion*). The release in GIT will have a “git tag” added for the “version update” (Mantis BugTracker #288). 6. *Bugs/Issues fixed:* The Compositor “Click2Play” button is now easily accessible again (Mantis BugTracker #*BT 237*). Fixed Render Progress booby (Andrew reported this bug). Configure.ac Warn and Guicast Gettid patches (from ferdnyc) were applied (#*BT 289 and 290*).

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The "Story of Dav1d" with Cinelerra builds (AV1 decoder)
by Phyllis Smith 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

As pointed out by Andrew (BT #214), using libdav1d as opposed to libaom for decoding (no encoding) is so attractive because it pretty much runs at full speed. So when FFmpeg 4.2 included the compile option for this, we were highly motivated to put this in as the default for AV1 media loading/editing. AV1 is yet another codec that seems to be newly relevant. However as mentioned in a previous email, dav1d inclusion was a big problem for the older system monthly builds. First, meson had to be at or above version 47 and only 5 out of 18 build systems were. Consequently, GG ended up eliminating the "meson" requirement and substituting the standard "make" instead. Then the "nasm" assembler on some of the older systems was not able to compile Dav1d so they had to be switched out for a newer/working version (11 out of 19 were OK). If we had known the problems that would be encountered in applying libdav1d, I wonder if we would have included it at this time? Also, as mentioned in the BT #214, a remapping for decoding with libdav1d being the preference is in the {cinelerra_path}/ffmpeg/decode.opts file. To revert to using libaom instead for decoding, you will need to comment out the line: remap_video_decoder libaom-av1=libdav1d every time you update Cinelerra. We have not tested what happens if there is either no libdav1d or libaom so if that creates a different problem, we will have to address that. gg/Phyllis *The following information is for the people who do their own builds.* The easy workaround, if you do not care about AV1 files, is to add to the configure line in your script: ./configure .... --disable-dav1d The better fix, is to upgrade nasm to at least 2.13 or higher. Here is the list of the problem distro systems: *libdav1d requires minimum nasm>=2.13 && meson>=0.47 * *In the chart below * designates compile works, x designates compile fails* *meson nasm os kernel* 0.51.2 * 2.14.02 * arch linux (5.2.9-arch1-1-ARCH) missing x 2.10.07 x centos 3.10.0-957.10.1.el7.x86_64 0.21.0 x 2.11.05 x debian8 3.16.0-10-amd64 0.37.1 x 2.12.01 x debian9 4.9.0-9-amd64 0.37.1 x 2.12.01 x debian9i 4.9.0-9-686-pae 0.49.2 * 2.14 * debian10 4.19.0-5-amd64 0.47.2 * 2.13.03 * fc28 5.0.16-100.fc28.x86_64 0.51.1 * 2.13.03 * fc29 5.2.7-100.fc29.x86_644 0.50.1 * 2.13.03 * fc30 5.2.9-200.fc30.x86_644 missing x 2.13.03 * su42.3 4.4.180-102-default 0.46.0 x 2.13.02 * leap05 4.12.14-lp151.28.13-default 0.40.1 x 2.11.08 x mint18 4.8.0-53-generic 0.45.1 x 2.13.02 * mint19 4.15.0-20-generic missing x 2.10.09 x ub14 3.13.0-170-generic 0.29.0 x 2.11.08 x ub16 4.4.0-159-generic 0.45.1 x 2.13.02 * 4.15.0-58-generic missing x 2.10.09 x ub14i 3.16.0-77-generic 0.46.1 x * slk32 0.46.1 x * slk34 *Summary:* meson 14 fail, 5 succeed nasm 8 fail, 11 succeed To get a working set of builds for the month, the way gg used was to: - generate a Makefile for x86 to replace meson (for now). - copy nasm "NASM version 2.13.03 compiled on Feb 2 2019" to: debian8 debian9 debian9i leap03 ub16 ub14 ubuntu mint18

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FFmpeg 4.2 new filters
by Andrea paz 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

To test the new filters that come with the 4.2 (colorhold, xmedian, etc), just copy the entries in plugins.opts? After that they appear in resources --> video effects and you can try them out?

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Cosmetical patch - update copyright year
by Andrew Randrianasulu 03 Sep '19

03 Sep '19

Hello, all! I noticed copyright info in About: tab was not up-to-date, this small patch ought to fix this: diff --git a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/versioninfo.h b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/versioninfo.h index c100778..70ed482 100644 --- a/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/versioninfo.h +++ b/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/versioninfo.h @@ -3,9 +3,9 @@ #define CINELERRA_VERSION "Infinity" #define REPOMAINTXT "git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git\n" -#define COPYRIGHT_DATE "2018" -#define COPYRIGHTTEXT1 "(c) 2006-2018 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams\n" -#define COPYRIGHTTEXT2 "(c) 2007-2018 cin5 derivative by W.P. Morrow aka goodguy\n" +#define COPYRIGHT_DATE "2019" +#define COPYRIGHTTEXT1 "(c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams\n" +#define COPYRIGHTTEXT2 "(c) 2007-2019 cin5 derivative by W.P. Morrow aka goodguy\n" #undef COMPILEDATE #endif

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Bug when building from Git, FFmpeg fails on libdavd1
by Miroslav Rovis 02 Sep '19

02 Sep '19

Hi! Installing Cinelerra from git, on a Debian variant (Devuan), following the PDF Installation documentation, doing the recommended --with-single-user build, I got this error: gcc: error: /Cmn/src/cin/cin/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/../thirdparty/dav1d-0.4.0/usr/local/lib*/libdav1d*.a: No such file or directory C compiler test failed. This change allowed me to, going from zero ground, build and install Cinelerra correctly: $ diff cinelerra-5.1/configure.ac* 416c416 < [ usr/local/lib*/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdav1d*.a ], --- > [ usr/local/lib*/libdav1d*.a ], Sorry for lack of time to make a proper patch. Also I'm not aware if that "x86_64-linux-gnu" is present or not in all distros, so this may not solve it for other distos, but instead make a failure, if they the libdav1d*.a is not in that dir. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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Re: [Cin] August new builds are available
by Miroslav Rovis 02 Sep '19

02 Sep '19

Hi! On 190902-08:09-0600, Phyllis Smith wrote: > I believe (and Andrey/Andrea can confirm) that the source for the LaTex No, they wouldn't be able to confirm, as you forgot to stick the cinelerra-gg list email in the To: header, but replied to me only. :) . That is now corrected. > manuals is at: > > https://github.com/einhander/cin-manual-latex > Looks great! And there's even the Learn LaTeX in 30 minutes https://www.overleaf.com/learn/latex/Learn_LaTeX_in_30_minutes guide link, if I will need it (I hope to try and contribute, although not immediately). > For the current (not WIP) manual the source is in .odt format at the > following link. BUT I would not use this version because it is the base > for the LaTex manual so should contain the same information with many > fixes/improvements added to the LaTex version. > > https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/documentation.git;a=summary > Nope, no .odt link. I.e. not on the first page. But on some of the pages linked. Yes. But you are right, the work is on the new manual. Thanks! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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