April 2020 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

I tried to add AVC-Intra 100 output profiles
by Andrew Randrianasulu 08 May '25

08 May '25

But not sure if I did this correctly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVC-Intra says for AVC-Intra 100: AVC-Intra 100: nominally 100 Mbit/s, size of each frame is fixed CAVLC entropy coding only. All formats are High 4:2:2 Intra Profile, Level 4.1 4:2:2 chrominance sampling frames are not scaled and yeah, this French-language pdf actually says the same: https://web.archive.org/web/20110720215759/http://www.ficam.fr/upload/docum… 50M 100M Standard MPEG-4 part10 AVC/H.264 Profile High 10 Intra High 4:2:2 Intra Level Level 3.2/4.0 Level 4.1 Resolution 1440x1080 / 960x720 1920x1080 / 1280x720 Sampling 4:2:0 4:2:2 Bit rate 54Mbps 111Mbps Block size Y: 8x8, C: 4x4 Intra Prediction Y: 9mode, C: 4mode MBAFF Yes De-block filter No Slice/frame 10 Entropy coding CABAC CAVLC so, I looked up ffmpeg cmd line https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/3597 ffmpeg -v info -i /mnt-data/backup4/vol0/export/CUHK\ 2014-1/V017b.mov -vcodec libx264 -intra -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -vb 100M -x264opts avcintra-class=100 -x264opts colorprim=bt709 -x264opts transfer=bt709 -x264opts colormatrix=bt709 -threads 4 -acodec copy V017b-ffmpeg-git-avcintra100.mov Huh, said I and entered those params in opts file, actually in two files (mp4 and mov containers) mov libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 mp4 libx264 cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p10le flags -global_header keyint_min=0 x264-params=keyint=0:colorprim=bt709:transfer=bt709:colormatrix=bt709 avcintra-class=100 bufsize=100000000 level=4.1 both for progressive content, for interlace you must add some more flags: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2017-January/035049.html -flags +ildct+ilme -x264opts interlaced=1 Also, there is still lack of (GUI) user notification if file writing failed due to NO SPACE on device :} FFStream::write_packet: write packet failed. file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::encode_frame: encode failed. file: /dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: На устройстве не осталось свободного места FFStream::flush failed :file:/dev/shm/avci_new.mp4 err: Операция не позволена Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.585 secs, 3.190 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 85.485 secs, 3.194 fps Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 273 frames in 82.176 secs, 3.322 fps Profile sort of assumes you set project to some supported resolution, framerate, etc, otherwise libx264 will fail with console error message..... I found some talk about AVC-Ultra, there even was patch for x264, but it was not merged: https://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/x264-devel/2015-September/011412.html Also, I think sound must be uncompressed, but I'm not sure.

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Re: [Cin] cinelerra-gg on ppc64el
by Daniel Reurich 02 Apr '22

02 Apr '22

Hi I've made some significant progress in getting the build going - and will have some patches to drop that solve some issues for builds using system libs and non x86 based archs. The current issue I'm stumbling on is that configure doesn't detect the systems liba52 and a52dec/a52.h header files as installed. This results in a linking failure during the build of libzmpeg Any thoughts on how I might overcome that? Thanks, Daniel. -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722

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Blu-ray encoding again
by Andrew Randrianasulu 16 Oct '20

16 Oct '20

Hi! With Marton's patches from git clone -b mpegts https://github.com/cus/ffmpeg/ and CinGG compiled with ffmpg.git I _nearly_ got some rendering. But option files still needed some modification For example I was running into x264 errors. cin Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 14 2019 14:17:05 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams (c) 2007-2019 cin5 derivative by W.P. Morrow aka goodguy Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra. Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] interlace + weightp is not implemented [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] using mv_range_thread = 88 [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] NAL HRD parameters require VBV parameters [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] using SAR=1/1 [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX XOP FMA3 BMI1 [libx264 @ 0xe9a3c4c0] profile High, level 4.1 Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl FFMPEG::encode_activate: write header failed /dev/shm//bd_20191114-163217/bd.m2ts err: Недопустимый аргумент Render::render_single: Session finished. Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl some of them were fixed by applying parameters from http://www.x264bluray.com/home/1080i-p [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] using mv_range_thread = 88 [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] using SAR=1/1 [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX XOP FMA3 BMI1 [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] HRD bitrate: 40000000 bits/sec [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] CPB size: 30000000 bits [libx264 @ 0xe0609640] profile High, level 4.1 [SWR @ 0xcfba81c0] Using fltp internally between filters Device type none is not supported. Available device types: vdpau cuda vaapi opencl Render::render_single: Session finished. but there still warning at ffmpeg site about deprecation of x264opts: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/H.264 Warning: Do not use the option x264opts, as it will eventually be removed. Use x264-params instead. --- /usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/bluray.m2ts 417/417 100% bluray libx264 bluray-compat=1 id=0x1011 level=41 bf=2 fake-interlaced=1 bitrate=40000 slices=4 sar=1:1 # vbv-maxrate=40000 # vbv-bufsize=30000 refs=3 cin_pix_fmt=yuv420p color_range=mpeg colorspace=bt709 color_trc=bt709 color_primaries=bt709 profile=high preset=medium flags=+cgop # must be last for bdcreate.C x264opts keyint=25:min-keyint=4:qpmin=3:qpmax=33:qp_step=4:merange=8:vbv-maxrate=40000:vbv-bufsize=30000 --- /usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/format/bluray 129/129 100% mpegts mpegts_m2ts_mode=1 mpegts_start_pid=1024 mpegts_pmt_start_pid=256 muxrate 1 #sdt_period=-1 packetsize 2048 preload 500000 But please note some x264 params actually should vary for interlaced or progressive, 25 vs 30 fps: 1080p Primary and Secondary Streams 1080p23.976 / 1080p24 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 24 --open-gop --slices 4 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 24 --open-gop --slices 4 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file NB: the following two streams are encoded using fake-interlaced mode. This allows the stream to be encoded progressively yet flagged as interlaced. 1080p25 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --open-gop --slices 4 --fake-interlaced --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --open-gop --slices 4 --fake-interlaced --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file 1080p29.97 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 30 --open-gop --slices 4 --fake-interlaced --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 30 --open-gop --slices 4 --fake-interlaced --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file 1080i Primary and Secondary Streams (assumes top field first) 1080i25 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --open-gop --slices 4 --tff --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --open-gop --slices 4 --tff --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file 1080i29.97 / 1080i30 x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 30 --open-gop --slices 4 --tff --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --bluray-compat --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 30 --open-gop --slices 4 --tff --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file so, keyint must be dynamically-selected, depending on profile you (user) choose, and fake_interlaced must be present for progressive encodings More on those constrains, refering same page: https://av.community/guides/encoding-video-for-blu-ray-using-h264-avc/ "8-bit (4:2:0) Colorspace is only allowed Main and High profiles are allowed Maximum 3 B-Frames is allowed NAL-HRD Type 2 capable encoder is needed" note, according to some comments around vbv-bufsize you can mux to DVD, so test this, too? "vbv-maxrate Maximum allowed bitrate. Depend of destination media, for normal BD Media, maximum settings is allowed (40000), while for DVD Media (eg BD-5 or BD-9) there is no maximum per Blu-Ray specification, but is strongly recommended that use less or equal to 15000, since DVD reading is slower."

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April monthly tars and pkgs are now available ...
by Phyllis Smith 01 May '20

01 May '20

April monthly tars and pkgs are now available at the usual place on the website: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/tars https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs We installed both the Mint 19.3 package and the new Ubuntu 20 package to make sure Cin came up. Both Arch and Tweed (Tumbleweed) distros were updated yesterday before the build. And if you have not already seen, the *beginning of the Spanish translation of the manual by Sergio*: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual_Spanish.pdf (I did not get the update from Andrea and the fixes from Sergio in the English manual yet but will try to get that updated by the end of today.) *Newly added Ubuntu 20* is available with only minimal testing. Ubuntu 19 static tar is available this month yet but will be retired next month unless the demand is still there. *Fedora 32 was newly added* also. --------------------------------- *Text copy of releasenotes.pdf (also on website*) ------------------------- Cinelerra-GG (Version Infinity) Release Notes for 04/01/2020-04/30/2020 for builds Thanks to *RafaMar* for a lot of work testing this month, reporting bugs, providing instructive youtube videos and tutorials, plus more Spanish translations. A partially translated Spanish version of the Manual is being gradually worked by *Sergio*. This is very much appreciated. It is at: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual_Spanish.pdf 1. Four *potential performance modifications* have been made to speed up some places, to include: 1) Speed improvements for *line drawing* using Bresenham’s line algorithm implemented now in (motivated by LFOM forum notes). 2) Performance enhancements on the time line for *video/audio re-draws* has been implemented. 3) *Threading on loads* so that Audio and Video can be loaded using multiple cpu-s. Previously the video load to the timeline would have to complete before the audio would start loading. 4) *Hardware acceleration using vdpau* for files of type yuvj420p were reverting to software decoding on the load due to rejection by ffmpeg. Another ffmpeg patch (patchA) was added to allow this type (used by GoPro cameras) to be decoded successfully on GPU graphics cards that support CONSTRAINED_BASELINE (*Ig0r in the forum pursued this* to a fix). 2. *Videoscope *additional improvements to ease use in Compositor and Viewer and as a plugin. - Smoothed vectorscope so no longer uses fast pixmap but instead software (Sam aesthetics suggestion). - Added VectorWheel overlay options – none, All, Hue, IQ (with I for skin tones and Q for grass?), and user generated allowance by adding to CinPath/plugins/scopes as a png file (Andrea and IgorBeg provided initial quality graticules). - Modifications were made to layout to improve looks & usage (as recommended by IgorBeg/Sam). - Switched the Hue and Saturation values from the top line to a popup instead. - Added a “*Refresh on Stop*” button so that the scopes are only updated when you actually stop the play. This makes it play at full speed (Sam suggestion). Works only for Compositor/Viewer. 3. A *long standing serious bug* which has been undetected for years is resolved (thanks to RafaMar analysis of exact steps to reproduce.) For details refer to BT #71, note 3228 +. 4. *Usability Improvements:* Switched from png to 90% jpg for *ShapeWipe transitions* to save binary file size for the monthly builds in order to lessen amount of time to download. Writing software to perform the jpeg translation was necessary to do so. This also makes additional 17 shapes available (RafaMar). If user needs to use a png version of a ShapeWipe instead, the manual states how to do so. Added to *BoxBlur *plugin, a way to define a rectangular area for blurring just that spot (Andrea). *Drag box ungrab for plugins* like Title will now automatically turn on the Drag and turn off the Drag owned by any other plugin (RafaMar suggestion). *Collect and Paste effects *options are now available as well as saving a stack to the Clip folder (Sam suggestion BT #84). MMB on a track to see. More work is to be done to complete this next month. Updated Spanish translation and tips (by RafaMar). 5. *Bugs/Issues fixed:* Problem of Title plugin with long lines or using png with the menu has been fixed (Rafa reported). Camera and Projector “expand X,Y,Z ranges” have been fixed and changed to work a little differently but more work needs to be completed (Andrea reported problems). Button bars on Compositor and Viewer are now more aesthetically correct and the “meters” icon has been moved to the end for a better placement of a non-edit option (Olaf and IgorBeg notes). Some problems with BoxBlur to include edge case segv have been fixed (IgorBeg). Scaling problems for xinerama case of a screen that is 2560x1080 will now work correctly (RafaMar user reported). Fixed booby lock problem in ChromaKey plugin. Negative value vdpau/vaapi hardware fallback fix. *With vaapi enabled, some png’s and jpg’s would not default to loading with software*. Most of these will now do so (*LFOM report *in the forum). A bug has been fixed in theora configure.ac (as provided by Andrew). Bug in using the next keyframe with the shortcut of “k” was not working if effects not at the beginning but is now fixed (RafaMar found). Color Wheel Hue up/down toggle needed to be float as was not working quite right. Removed “commercials” linking due to lack of use and in particular for the monthly builds which will speed up the process. If building your own, you can put it back in. Added requirement to “build prepare” script for Python. This was found necessary for Ubuntu 20. Fixed capture device needed for Recording operations. This was a dropped line. Colorpicker Hue correction has been made in 2 different places (GG found one and IgorBeg). Correct alignment for Cakewalk and different themes for BoxBlur contributed by programmer.

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Are there cloned clips in Cinelerra, or the possibility of inserting a project as a clip?
by Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

My question is if there is the possibility of making a clone of a clip, so I can insert this into a project many times, but if I make a change to the origin, this change will affect everyone. This for example could be a transition curtain. Or the possibility of inserting an xml as if it were a video clip. For example, a small montage that serves as a background for texts. I use this one in a project many times. But if I want to make a change to everyone, I just open the origin, make this change, and all these clips will have changed. I don't know if you know After Effects. I work with him almost every day. These are called compositions and I can nest them inside each other as many times as I want. If I make a change to the origin this change affects everyone. I do not know if I explain what I mean, but they are not the share tracks, these only work vertically, like mirrors, they are not clones. Thanks.

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Mask tool
by Andrea paz 30 Apr '20

30 Apr '20

Hi, could someone give me an example on how the "Apply mask before plugins" option works? In my tests I never find any difference between checked and unchecked.

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Cinelerra-GG on Ubuntu 20 LTS
by Phyllis Smith 26 Apr '20

26 Apr '20

Uploaded version 20 of Ubuntu and built Cinelerra on it without any problems that we could see right away. A static tar is available at: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-ub20-x86_64.static.… If anyone has time to test and finds a problem, please let us know. To compile Cinelerra, we first had to install Python as it was not included with the install.

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Today's checkin and planned work yet ...
by Phyllis Smith 26 Apr '20

26 Apr '20

Performance improvements for drawing video and audio on the timeline are in this latest GIT checkin. Depending on what you do and how big your media is, you should see speed up when refreshing the draw on the timeline. Please notify of any anomalies. If anyone who does not do their own builds wants to use this new version early, we will gladly create a test static tar. Even if you do not see a speed up because you only use small media, it helps us if you test to shake out any bugs. Also, thanks to Andrea, an improved IQ graticule for the Videoscope, VectorWheel overlay is improved. We thought that the shortcut "k" for next keyframe is fixed and it works for us but feedback from Andrea is inconclusive so if anyone else can test this, it would be appreciated (BT #414). Plans for the next few days (which will probably change or we run out of time). A little more work on Videoscopes to fix the layout and think about if/how to add "realtime" option (BT #71). And more work on Effects Stack as in BT #84.

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Can't get Cin installed
by Douglas Pollard 25 Apr '20

25 Apr '20

Hello Phyllis, I had been running Mint and had cin Installed. Switched to Ubuntu Studio douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ Sudo https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/mint19 bionic main Command 'Sudo' not found, did you mean: command 'ludo' from snap ludo (0.11.0) command 'udo' from deb udo (6.4.1-4) command 'sudo' from deb sudo (1.8.27-1ubuntu4.1) command 'sudo' from deb sudo-ldap (1.8.27-1ubuntu4.1) See 'snap info <snapname>' for additional versions. douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ sudo deb [trusted=yes] https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/mint19 bionic main [sudo] password for douglas: sudo: deb: command not found douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ deb [trusted=yes] https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/mint19 bionic main Command 'deb' not found, did you mean: command 'dub' from snap dub (1.19.0) command 'den' from snap den (1.2.0-0) command 'dep' from deb go-dep (0.5.4-2) command 'dex' from deb dex (0.8.0-2) command 'debi' from deb devscripts (2.19.6ubuntu1) command 'dab' from deb bsdgames (2.17-28) command 'debc' from deb devscripts (2.19.6ubuntu1) command 'deb3' from deb quilt (0.65-3) command 'edb' from deb edb-debugger (1.0.0-1build2) command 'dub' from deb dub (1.16.0-1build1) command 'derb' from deb icu-devtools (63.2-2ubuntu0.1) command 'xdeb' from deb xdeb (0.6.7) See 'snap info <snapname>' for additional versions. douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/mint19 bionic main bash: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/mint19: No such file or directory douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ apt update Reading package lists... Done E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied) W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied) douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ apt install cin E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), are you root? douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ sudo apt install cin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package cin douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ I have had a struggle getting Cinelerra GG installed before. I guess I just don't understand this process . Thanks for any help that will help me get cin installed, Douglas

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No Able to build by Git 20200423 for Ubuntu 16.04
by Igor BEGHETTO 25 Apr '20

25 Apr '20

I am not able to make a build by git "Thu, 23 Apr 2020 03:51:12 +0200 (19:51 -0600)" Build by git "Tue, 21 Apr 2020 03:00:51 +0200 (19:00 -0600)" works fine. Where I wrong? I added log file. Thanks! IgorBeg (OS: UbuntuStudio_16.04_16bit_LTS)

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