September 2020 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

I think all my problems with TeX/Kile solved!
by Andrew Randrianasulu 20 Sep '20

20 Sep '20

Hi again. I had some env. variable set (during my attempts to fix my installation), now I unset it ( unset TFMFONTS ) and everything works even from user! \o/

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frei0r plugins
by Andrew Randrianasulu 20 Sep '20

20 Sep '20

I tried to recompile CinGG's version of ffmpeg with those plugins enabled: FFMPEG_EXTRA_CFG="--enable-frei0r" (I have frei0r plugins 1.7.0 installed) and after tweaking /usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/plugin.opts (added frei0r filter_name=vignette at very end of it) I can see this plugin and even use some effects. But not sure where to find exact documentation for all those parameters? https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-filters.html#frei0r-1 ----- Apply the colordistance effect, taking a color as the first parameter: frei0r=colordistance:0.2/0.3/0.4 frei0r=colordistance:violet frei0r=colordistance:0x112233 Apply the perspective effect, specifying the top left and top right image positions: frei0r=perspective:0.2/0.2|0.8/0.2 ----- I tried those two and few others (list at the end), they worked, but their configuration a bit unintuitive .... List of working effects: colordistance - works edgeglow - works glow - works bw0r.- works posterize - work vignette. - work sobel - work perspective -- work emboss - works sharpness. - works colorize. - works contrast0r. - works squareblur. - works brightness. - works threshold0r. - works (try 0.6 as parameter) equaliz0r - works glitch0r. - works (try 1 as param) gamma. - works pr0file. - works invert0r - works cartoon. - works pr0be. - works saturat0r - works (try 3) dither. - works (try 0.8) primaries - works colortap - works (not sure how to use it) luminance. - works? hqdn3d - works ? twolay0r. - seems to work ? rgbnoise - works sopsat - works (try 0.1) ndvi - works nervous - works (motion effect) colortap - works c0rners. - works vertigo. - works softglow - works spillsupress. - works (not sure what it does) normaliz0r - works tint0r - seems to work (not sure how it was supposed to look) nosync0r/distort0r - not sure how to use them? hue - works ? Site seems to be https://www.dyne.org/software/frei0r/ , it even says ==== Frei0r is the result of a collective effort in coordination with several software developers meeting at Piksel between 2003 and 2005 to find a common standard for video effect plugins to be used among their applications: Andraz Tori (Cinelerra/CVS), [..] ===== so, huh :}

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Current (10 sep 2020) pdf manual has some pictures displaced?
by Andrew Randrianasulu 20 Sep '20

20 Sep '20

Hello! I was just looking into Manual, and found "Figure 13.16: A Tablet with Android Remote Control" currently visually in section "13.3 The commercial DB", p. 440 instead of p 439. Also, on p.446 I can read "13.4.1 Use Case #1 – EasyCap Model # DC60 A very speciﬁc case using an Easy CAPture USB 2.0 Video Adapter with Audio, Model #DC60 (supports NTSC and PAL) is shown here next. The setup for this device is seen in ﬁgure 13.21. A somewhat unusual choice to make note of in this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ shouldn't it be figure 13.20 ? where I can see CinGG windows, and not just external view of devices ..... There might be others I overlooked

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Website in French
by Olivier Humbert 19 Sep '20

19 Sep '20

Hi all. The website doesn't display its French translation anymore, even if I've translated all the pages. It looks that we can only access to the English, Italian and Spanish versions. I don't know if you're aware about that, then a quick message like this one probably worth to be be sent. Cheers, Olivier -- Site web : https://librazik.tuxfamily.org/ Donation : https://liberapay.com/LibraZiK/ Diaspora : https://framasphere.org/people/8c184af0c9450134f6682a0000053625 Mastodon : https://mastodon.xyz/@LibraZiK

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Sorry, updated mpeg4 profiles again
by Andrew Randrianasulu 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

This time using info from https://ffmpeg.org/faq.html ----- 3.9 Which are good parameters for encoding high quality MPEG-4? ’-mbd rd -flags +mv4+aic -trellis 2 -cmp 2 -subcmp 2 -g 300 -pass 1/2’, things to try: ’-bf 2’, ’-mpv_flags qp_rd’, ’-mpv_flags mv0’, ’-mpv_flags skip_rd’. ---- For msmpeg4 only +aic flag is valid For mpeg4 bot flags (+mv4+aic) are valid I also tried AVC-Intra-100 encoding - slow on my machine, but apparently produces mp4? mediainfo /dev/shm/avcintra100.mp4 General Complete name : /dev/shm/avcintra100.mp4 Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41) File size : 879 MiB Duration : 1 min 5 s Overall bit rate mode : Constant Overall bit rate : 113 Mb/s Writing application : Lavf58.55.100 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High 4:2:2 Intra(a)L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : No Format settings, GOP : N=1 Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 1 min 4 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 114 Mb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 Bit depth : 10 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.193 Stream size : 878 MiB (100%) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Codec configuration box : avcC Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : mp4a-40-2 Duration : 1 min 5 s Duration_LastFrame : -16 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 129 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 1 022 KiB (0%) Language : Russian Default : Yes Alternate group : 1 Of course audio better to be PCM .... Can anyone check if this file edi(t)able by other video editors?

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Re: [Cin] [spam?] Re: Fast reverse playback crash in latest cinGG?
by Georgy Salnikov 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote: > Aw, no, sorry this time it crashed again (maybe having Seamonkey in > background makes this issue more visible) There may be two additional methods of hunting such sporadic bugs/weaknesses. Where some rare bugs might become exposed. 1) Try to run program on a very poor computer (a single core, few memory, economy graphic board, or may be even 32 bit platform). 2) Try to run on as powerful as possible one, on many cores, lots of memory, high end graphics. _______________________________________________________________________________ Georgy Salnikov NMR Group Novosibirsk Institute of Organic Chemistry Lavrentjeva, 9, 630090 Novosibirsk, Russia Phone +7-383-3307864 Email sge(a)nmr.nioch.nsc.ru _______________________________________________________________________________

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Re: [Cin] Crash after I played with transitions
by Phyllis Smith 16 Sep '20

16 Sep '20

Andrew, we have been trying to crash all day long and GG is now reverse engineering the assembly code in the dump on a 32-bit system -- that is how desperate he is becoming ! Hopefully, this additional dump, session file, and Cinelerra_rc will help. So thanks. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:28 PM Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin < cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: > Sorry, still crashing .. > > I cut video into four parts, each on its own track, and tried to add some > transitions. > After I added circle ("shape wipe") and tried to play it back and forth by > draggin vertical playback line - Cin crashed > > DRI_PRIME=1 LANG=ru_RU.utf8 cin > Cinelerra Infinity - built: Sep 14 2020 05:20:48 > git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git > (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams > 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy > Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, > and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under > certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra. > > RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: > /home/guest/New_hdd/Flipper, Norwegian Dolphin chilling in the harbor.flv > ** segv at 0x870a298 in pid 10289, tid 10289 > writing debug data to /tmp/cinelerra_10289.dmp > lock_items: 26 > lock_frees: 6 > ** dump complete > Ошибка сегментирования > > Added backup.xml and Cinelerra_rc > -- > Cin mailing list > Cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >

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Few update profiles
by Andrew Randrianasulu 15 Sep '20

15 Sep '20

I tried to update few mpeg4 (DivX) profiles for better quality. div3 div3v2 div5 - added trellis=1 mbd=bits huffyuv_screencapture.mov added cin_pix_fmt bgra (so it will be picked by 'pixels' chooser) mjpeg_444.qt added cin_pix_fmt yuvj444p (again, so it will be picked by Cinelerra's output encoder config dialog window)

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Perpetual session
by Andrea paz 14 Sep '20

14 Sep '20

I was testing the new git release to test the fps drop with transitions and the crash with fast reverse. I also have freeze (not crash) if I use fast reverse. It doesn't happen every time; it happens more often if transitions are present and if I use "Perpetual session". No problem in X11, only with X11-OpenGL. For me the problem of transitions is solved: there is only a small drop in fps, but it is instantaneous and immediately restored. The drop is more accentuated in Reverse, but immediately restored. Even with "play every frame" I have a more pronounced drop but this is also immediately restored. But I noticed that simply putting a transition in timeline leads to some messages in terminal (Messages that are repeated for each transition applied). This happens only if "Perpetual session" is active: Cinelerra Infinity - built: Sep 13 2020 09:14:25 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra. MainUndo::update_undo_before 92 "": must be on an after entry to do this. size=39 UndoStack::dump 0 0x561f28222b70 perpetual load 790 ffffffff * 1 0x561f28224090 perpetual load 790 ffffffff 2 0x561f28223450 882 0000 3 0x561f2823d0a0 transition 790 0001 4 0x561f281fdf40 transition 524 0001 5 0x561f281fdee0 transition 524 0001 6 0x561f285277a0 transition 272 0001 7 0x561f2853f6c0 transition 272 0001 8 0x561f28408630 transition 4 0001 k 9 0x561f283135d0 transition 11968 0001 10 0x561f28526680 transition 1510 0001 11 0x561f284d4bb0 perpetual load 330 ffffffff 12 0x561f283e68f0 perpetual load 330 ffffffff 13 0x561f28312710 record patch 330 0004 14 0x561f28431bf0 record patch 185 0004 15 0x561f2854de50 record patch 185 0004 16 0x561f28551da0 record patch 52 0004 17 0x561f28526780 move track down 52 ffffffff 18 0x561f28456bc0 move track down 174 ffffffff 19 0x561f28408500 move track up 174 ffffffff 20 0x561f28385d30 move track up 40 ffffffff 21 0x561f28539df0 move track up 40 ffffffff k 22 0x561f284d0ed0 move track up 11874 ffffffff 23 0x561f28349d80 swap tracks down 1276 ffffffff k 24 0x561f2a914230 swap tracks down 11874 ffffffff 25 0x561f2a911f10 swap tracks up 1564 ffffffff 26 0x561f285299f0 swap tracks up 294 ffffffff 27 0x561f28391c20 move tracks down 294 ffffffff 28 0x561f28398b00 move tracks down 464 ffffffff 29 0x561f282ea000 move tracks up 464 ffffffff 30 0x561f2a90cc50 move tracks up 294 ffffffff 31 0x561f2a90a930 record patch 294 0004 MainUndo::update_undo_after 142 "perpetual load": must be on a before entry to do this. size=40 UndoStack::dump 0 0x561f2846e9a0 790 0000 * 1 0x561f28222b70 perpetual load 790 ffffffff 2 0x561f28224090 perpetual load 790 ffffffff 3 0x561f28223450 882 0000 4 0x561f2823d0a0 transition 790 0001 5 0x561f281fdf40 transition 524 0001 6 0x561f281fdee0 transition 524 0001 7 0x561f285277a0 transition 272 0001 8 0x561f2853f6c0 transition 272 0001 9 0x561f28408630 transition 4 0001 k 10 0x561f283135d0 transition 11968 0001 11 0x561f28526680 transition 1510 0001 12 0x561f284d4bb0 perpetual load 330 ffffffff 13 0x561f283e68f0 perpetual load 330 ffffffff 14 0x561f28312710 record patch 330 0004 15 0x561f28431bf0 record patch 185 0004 16 0x561f2854de50 record patch 185 0004 17 0x561f28551da0 record patch 52 0004 18 0x561f28526780 move track down 52 ffffffff 19 0x561f28456bc0 move track down 174 ffffffff 20 0x561f28408500 move track up 174 ffffffff 21 0x561f28385d30 move track up 40 ffffffff 22 0x561f28539df0 move track up 40 ffffffff k 23 0x561f284d0ed0 move track up 11874 ffffffff 24 0x561f28349d80 swap tracks down 1276 ffffffff k 25 0x561f2a914230 swap tracks down 11874 ffffffff 26 0x561f2a911f10 swap tracks up 1564 ffffffff 27 0x561f285299f0 swap tracks up 294 ffffffff 28 0x561f28391c20 move tracks down 294 ffffffff 29 0x561f28398b00 move tracks down 464 ffffffff 30 0x561f282ea000 move tracks up 464 ffffffff 31 0x561f2a90cc50 move tracks up 294 ffffffff Note: I didn't use move/swap tracks up or down! I don't understand why these entries are present.

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About Prores encode by Cinelerra-GG
by Igor BEGHETTO 14 Sep '20

14 Sep '20

Hi! I have done some tests with my footages about ProRes codec in Cinelerra-GG. My footages are yuvj422@24fps 8bit; LUT of the screen of my Notebook is 8bit for channel, NOT wide gamut. To use Prores-pro, Prores-ks I have to set the Project format to RGBA-FLOAT (Menu-> Settings-> Format...). If you create files by Render (or Transcode) when Cin is YUVA-8bit format, the files created may have clamped area (highlight and/or darkzone). You can see that using Videoscope tool. Important: Check your Project format is RGBA-FLOAT before you are doing Render or Transcode. I added 4 images to show Original, Prores by Cin when it is YUVA-8 (wrong), Prores-ks by Cin_RGBA-Float, Prores-Pro by Cin_RGBA-Float. Take a look at the Wafeform RGB on the Videoscope tool, please. I don't know if it works fine for 10bit footages (but Prores should be 10 bit codec, for that I know). IgorBeg

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