January 2022 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

A recommendation for Cinelerra-GG
by Pierre autourduglobe 02 Feb '22

02 Feb '22

Ubuntubuzz.com offers Cinelerra-GG in combination with Natron https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/01/install-cinelerra-and-natron-professiona… It mentions the cinelerra-gg download page. By the way... isn't it time to remove from the download page of the site (https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/downloads/) the mentions and accesses to the now very outdated (more than two years of delay on development) CinGG packages? A new user in too much of a hurry to read everything would have a really unrepresentative experience of what CinGG is now... Pierre

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Monthly release with another AppImage option
by Phyllis Smith 31 Jan '22

31 Jan '22

Monthly release ready with now 6 AppImage options: CinGG-20220131-i386-newer_distros.AppImage <https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20220131-i386-newer_distros.…>CinGG-20220131-i386.AppImage <https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20220131-i386.AppImage>CinGG-20220131-multibit.AppImage <https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20220131-multibit.AppImage>CinGG-20220131-x86-64-older_distros-multibit.AppImage <https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20220131-x86-64-older_distro…>CinGG-20220131-x86_64-older_distros.AppImage <https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20220131-x86_64-older_distro…>CinGG-20220131-x86_64.AppImage <https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20220131-x86_64.AppImage> The "older_distros-multibit" is the new one based on Fedora 29 which mostly matches RHEL8 and was to provide multibit as well as vdpau or maybe it is vaapi that works there. Copy of latest Release Notes **************************** GIT for Cinelerra-GG has the following changes from 01/01/2022-01/31/2022 Thirdparty/Makefile build has had changes made by Andrew for using autoconf/autoreconf to support aarches64 and other distros with checking by MatN that added a couple more changes. CinGG builds on Debian 11 aarch64 (Qemu emulation) as done by MatN (with the above mods). A Shout Out to IgorBeg for his Merry Christmas and Happy New Year CinGG video. You can find this video as well as very relevant excellent guides by him at: http://www.visi1.org/cinelerra-gg_tutorials#MerryChristmasAndHappyNewYear20… Four of the Load Menu icons for the SUV theme, which looked to be hand drawn, have been improved as done by IgorBeg. This includes the Refresh, Delete, Display Text, and Display Icons. Terje and Miroslav provided corrections to the manual and Andrea/Phyllis fixed accordingly. Also, information from other users led to additional inclusions concerning proxies and AppImage workaround for text file modifications. GIF lists code has been modified to notify the user if the files are not all the exact same size – it will not load any of the files, but this prevents a SEGV. Reverted Title code added in 10/31/2021 release that fixed the “unwanted black flash” on fade in/out because it created other errors. Still waiting for response from Freelancer who provided the fix.

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Editing 4K content targetting 1080p output
by Stefan de Konink 30 Jan '22

30 Jan '22

Hi, In my curious "document everything you don't understand in Cinelerra"-adventure. I have now content that is shot in 4K. For speed purposes I am (usually) successfully using the proxy functionality. The proxy is configured to 1/3 of the size (640x360). Problem 1; With the proxy *enabled* I drag a video in the timeline. Since my target format is 1080p I reduce the size of the camera on the video track to Z=0.170 to see the full frame (using the proxy). But when I disable the proxy, the Z value should be set to 0.500 to fill the frame. If I would instead *disable* the proxy, drag a video in the timeline. Set the Z value to 0.500, I am able to start the proxy and get the desired effect that I want: both proxied video and original video are of the same size in the compositor. Problem 2; When the proxy is disabled, the viewer shows the clip in the original resolution. I think this is expected. Now when I enable proxy editing, and then open the same clip in the viewer, the resolution is scaled (zoomed in). It feels like this is all related to the output resolution being 1080p, scaling is applied to the proxy, and the meta data is not used consistently. -- Stefan

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Keyframe Adjustments Not Seen in Render
by Mark Goldberg 29 Jan '22

29 Jan '22

I've added a couple keyframes to adjust the curves in Histogram Bezier at the end of a clip. When I play in the compositor I see the change (lower highlights as I pan into a scene lit by the sun) as expected. When I render, either background rendering or a full render for output, it seems the changes are ignored and the curves don't change with time. Am I missing something? Regards, Mark

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Fwd: Webpage Translation into Spanish
by Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux 28 Jan '22

28 Jan '22

Hi dear Phyllis Spanish translation of the terms of the appearance tab of the configuration: Autosave continous backups = *Copia de seguridad continua* The tip in Spanish = *Cuando cierre Cinelerra se guardarán unicamente las últimas 50 copias de seguridad. Si trabaja durante mucho tiempo sin reiniciar Cinelerra, corre el riesgo de ocupar mucho espacio con las continuas copias de seguridad.* Greetings!!

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Feature discussion for linear editing
by Stefan de Konink 28 Jan '22

28 Jan '22

Recently I found a very nice introduction on linear editing for multi-cam. I finally understood how it should work in Cinelerra GG. But it is not intuitive, I would like to propose two things that could make multi-cam editing much more user friendly. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOMKP4Jgzw8> 1. As you can see from the video, multi-cam works by clicking on a Mixer. Completely counter intuitive towards anyone that works with a switcher (atem and likes) it adds video from the undecided point up to the current position when clicked on the mixer. This would be a feature request that I wonder why nobody asked for this: implement this in the opposite way. You click on a mixer A, then the timeline gets filled with that mixer (visible, or underwater). If you click on mixer B, the timeline is computed with the part 0 to timeline current position with Mixer A, and having Mixer B as start position. 2. Now you have set up your rough cut. What you would actually want is the ability to fine tune. I would like to have a drag handle functionality that would be able to modify the cut position. It should be able to move to left or right. The limits of this operation are bound by the source videos. One can move to the left beyond the left video, but only up to the point that the right video has data. The same goes for the move towards right. At this moment you can never get this right with trimming or extending, especially not when there is an audio track to match it below. Hence I think this function would benefit every editor. (feature-mouse.png) -- Stefan

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Video Transitions not locking into track?
by Stefan de Konink 27 Jan '22

27 Jan '22

I am using a recent git version of Cinelerra, and I notice that I cannot drop a video transition between two pasted clips anymore. So I do see the white square as placement, but the icon after it does not follow. Neither is the transition visually applied between the two clips. (I have also seen the case where the icon isn't there, but the transition happens, but not today.) -- Stefan

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Ligature rendering in the title effect
by Stefan de Konink 26 Jan '22

26 Jan '22

Within Cinelerra the Title effect does not seem to have the same result for the same font. The rendering backend within Inkscape gives ligatures and cursive connections of the Parisienne in an ideal way. Cinelerra does not join the letters. The font used; <https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Parisienne> The individual renderings, notice the broken connection between the 'a' and 'n'. -- Stefan

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Again bugs in alignment
by Stefan de Konink 24 Jan '22

24 Jan '22

In the attached screenshot you can visually see where the original cut has to start at 00.720, while it appears at the rendered version at a little more than 0.200. Yes, I had to introduce this silence to prevent the audio being cut off from the beginning. The source material of this project can be made available in full. -- Stefan

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Re: [Cin] Crash on playback
by Phyllis Smith 21 Jan '22

21 Jan '22

Mark, > > It does not crash when using X11 OpenGL, only X11. X11 with direct render > does not seem to be faster when using vdpau, so I think I have a workable > solution that does not require extra tracks. > Curiouser and curiouser. I checked and I was using X11 and not OpenGL. I have created a multibit AppImage on my Fedora 29 computer(which is an HP/Intel/Broadwell graphics board) and have uploaded it. When I tested this AppImage moved to an AMD Ryzen-7 (with a Radeon graphics board) vdpau worked for me on tutorial.mp4 file. It did not work with DSCF0220.MOV though probably due to limitations of my board. When you have time and the inclination, you should see if it works for you by downloading: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cin-x86_older-distros_multibit.Ap…

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