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CinGG list not pushing out posts?
by Terje J. Hanssen 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

Members, Have other than me experienced to not receive posts from the CinGG mailing list the later days? Terje J. H

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AppImageLauncher:6412: GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL gdk_pixbuf_-- failed
by Terje J. Hanssen 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

AppImageLauncher 2.2.0 build 2022 cause several CinGG launch errors on current openSUSE Tw Slowroll w/Gnome 46.2 https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImageLauncher/releases/tag/continuous Any solution to solve this? (Not comparable, but the current CinGG rpm build which is possible to install on openSUSE Leap 15.6, cause no error) ./CinGG-20240630-x86_64_32607d503797959daeea6f4f2297ab88.AppImage /usr/bin/AppImageLauncher: /lib64/libcurl.so.4: no version information available (required by /usr/bin/../lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/appimagelauncher/libappimageupdate.so) ** (AppImageLauncher:6412): WARNING **: 01:08:12.144: Pixbuf theme: Cannot load pixmap file /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-2.0/assets/progressbar-horz-trough.png: Feil under lasting av bilde «/usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-2.0/assets/progressbar-horz-trough.png»: Fatal feil i PNG-bildefil: bad parameters to zlib (AppImageLauncher:6412): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: 01:08:12.144: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion 'GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed (AppImageLauncher:6412): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: 01:08:12.144: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion 'GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed ** (AppImageLauncher:6412): WARNING **: 01:08:12.144: Invalid borders specified for theme pixmap: /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-2.0/assets/progressbar-horz-trough.png, borders don't fit within the image (AppImageLauncher:6412): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: 01:08:12.144: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion 'GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed (AppImageLauncher:6412): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: 01:08:12.144: gdk_pixbuf_get_pixels_with_length: assertion 'GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed ........ and severak more

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Website and "Documentation and Source Code" section
by Andrea paz 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

Hi, What I say is not important and can be overlooked. With Terje we were talking about a possible new document on codecs to be made available on the website. It occurred to me that the documents that are already there (Workflow; Anamorphic and Preserving Camcoder Media) are only reachable from the links in the manual. One idea would be to put them alongside the other documents on the website (the Download --> "Documentation and Source Code" section) so that they can be reached even by visitors who do not read the manual. This, however, would involve some intervention by Samt, and I don't know if we should bother him and give him additional work. What do you think?

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Error reports and discussions about section 2.6 of the User Manual
by Bulhwi Cha 08 Jul '24

08 Jul '24

2.6. Other Options and Other Windows ================== 2.6.1. Transport Controls ------------------------- I don't think the last sentence in the following excerpt from page 94 is true: > The keyboard > interface of either the numeric pad or alternative keys has more speeds with the > addition of Forward Slow(2) and Reverse Slow (5). Hitting any key on the keyboard > twice pauses it. It seems that the only key that pauses playing is the space bar, and you only have to press it once to stop playing. In the above excerpt, a space should be placed between "Forward Slow" and "(2)". 2.6.2. Zoombar -------------- On page 95, the User Manual explains that "a Ctrl-click in the video output zooms out." > The zoom toggle also causes the Compositor window to enter zoom mode. In > zoom mode, clicking in the video output zooms in while a Ctrl-click in the video > output zooms out. Instead, it does the opposite: it also zooms in. The last sentence in this section left out a period at the end. 2.6.3 Show Overlays ------------------- I think we can change the second sentence on page 96 as follows: The color is not changeable for -the 3 items of Mode, Pan, and Mask which simply display their symbol icon. +the 4 items of Mode, Pan, Mask, and Hard edges which simply display their symbol icon.

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Some requests from a filmmaker
by Andrea paz 07 Jul '24

07 Jul '24

A filmmaker who plans to use a pro workflow based on Open software showed up on the forum. He and his team are looking at CinGG and asked several questions. Please can you look at the post so that you can contribute to the discussion? https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/forum/help-video/feature-filmmaker-looking-to-…

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cingg for NetBSD pkgsrc update
by Andrew Randrianasulu 03 Jul '24

03 Jul '24

well, I tried to update my wip patches adding cinelerra-gg as pkgsrc module for NetBSD. So far it sets architectures to just i386 and amd64, but in theory you can try it on arm8l (32bit arm) and aarch64 and ppc too (but I only have qemu-emulated PPC machine so builds tend to be on slow side - I only tried to build our sources on Debian 8.11 for ppc and there build was fine but cingg crashed at startup just after splash screen) I hope that someone with relatively fast ppc machine can give it a spin? On i386 it builds ok with 1024 Mb of ram. two virtual cores. qemu-system-i386 -cpu pentium2 -accel kvm -hda netbsd-92.qcow -smp 2 -device ES1370 -boot c -netdev user,id=myslirp,ipv6=off -device e1000,netdev=myslirp -m 1024 (qemu 9.0 on Slackware 15.0 i586) it also loads and plays mpeg2 video file (slowly) if I run qemu this way: qemu-system-i386 -cpu pentium2 -accel tcg,thread=multi -hda netbsd-92.qcow -smp 2 -device ES1370 -boot c -netdev user,id=myslirp,ipv6=off -device e1000,netdev=myslirp -m 1024 or qemu-system-i386 -cpu pentium -hda netbsd-92.qcow -device ES1370 -boot c -netdev user,id=myslirp,ipv6=off -device e1000,netdev=myslirp -m 512

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Error reports and discussions about section 2.5 of the User Manual
by Bulhwi Cha 30 Jun '24

30 Jun '24

2.5. Resources Window ========== 2.5.3. Modify Folder: sorting the media --------------------------------------- In the HTML User Manual, there's an empty item in the bulleted list showing the subsections: > Subsections > * > * Drag and Drop: > * Filters: On page 84 of the PDF User Manual, the "Enable" field is referred to as "Enabled": > Filters: you do automatic populating using filters (Smart Bins mode). You set > the values of the Enabled; Target; Op and Value fields to make up the required > filtering. On the same page, I'm not sure if the following explanation is correct: > When you click on the Value portion of that filter, the entire set of files that are > covered by the filter rules pops up. Nothing happens when I click on the Value portion of a filter. On page 85, "follows ." in the following sentence should be "follows." > Information about the columns and rules for the search filters in the Modify folder > window follows . On page 87, it'd be nicer if the table were properly formatted. On page 88, should we change the meaning of the third-to-last example of Table 2.2 to "files included all have 23 to 25 framerate"? 2.5.5. Resources Window Preview Mode ------------------------------------ On page 91, "until click it again" should be "until you click it again": > When you do, a line > will be drawn through the current preview mode so that you are aware > that it is > in No Play mode until click it again. 2.5.6. Moving clips/media from/to Resources window -------------------------------------------------- On page 92, what does "wipe the names" mean? > Obviously this Paste file list feature means you can create a list of files outside of > C INELERRA-GG using an editor, wipe the names, and then use Paste file list to load > them into the media Resources window. On page 93, shouldn't there be three additional media files, not six? > When that is done, the additional 6 media files > will be available on this other instance too. On the same page, I think "as the 5th item down" should be "as the penultimate item down": > 2. right click in an empty spot in the media folder and the popup shows snap- > shot as the 5 th item down On page 94, "the 6th menu item" should be "the last menu item": > Grabshot is the 6th menu item.

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new cygwin patch for testing
by Andrew Randrianasulu 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

For some reason cinelerra/TESTS was both file (as seen in patch) and directory (git rm complained about impossibility to remove it)? Unfortunately, it still does not work at my end with plugins all returning bad exec format . :( For some reason new cygwin does not have desktop link to Openbox startup, but running startxwin from cygwin console started X server properly ...

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The Around operation in a filter doesn't seem to work
by Bulhwi Cha 26 Jun '24

26 Jun '24

In the Modify folder window, the following list of two filters doesn't exclude files modified this year. Enable Target Op Value Or Patterns Matches * And Time Around 2011/06/04 12:00:00+12:00:00 Am I doing something wrong, or is the Around operation not working well?

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ffmpeg -hwaccel AV1_VAAPI vs AV1_QSV encoding on Arc GPU
by Terje J. Hanssen 25 Jun '24

25 Jun '24

After posting some recent ffmpeg SVT-AV1 vs -hwaccel AV1_QSV encoding tests, here follows a simple comparison with AV1_VAAPI (and opus audio default). Comparable bitrates are used. The higher bitrate is selected on VAAPI's default bitrate premise. Preset 4 quality setting is used for QSV encoding, no other tuning or optimization is applied. The first visual quality is so far reasonable IMO, while there may be differences at a closer study. The ffmpeg command line syntax I got working for AV1_VAAPI is based on an VP9 encode (only) example at https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Hardware/VAAPI#Encode-only So far I didn't succeed trying to apply the Hardware-only Transcode examples. So the DV and HDV decode parts have possibly taken place in the CPU rather than in the GPU(?) https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Hardware/VAAPI#Transcode -------------------------- 576i SD-DV -> AV1_VAAPI at bv1570k VBR ffmpeg -hide_banner -vaapi_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -i dv01_07.dv -vf 'format=nv12,hwupload' -c:v av1_vaapi -b:v 1570k dv01_07_av1_vaapi_bv1570k.webm frame= 2832 fps=1959 q=-0.0 Lsize= 28133KiB time=00:01:53.28 bitrate=2034.5kbits/s speed=78.3x 576i SD-DV->AV1_QSV at bv1570k ffmpeg -hide_banner -hwaccel_output_format qsv -qsv_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -i dv01_07.dv -c:v av1_qsv -preset 4 -b:v 1570k dv01_07_av1_qsv_pr4_bv1570k.webm frame= 2832 fps=1746 q=-0.0 Lsize= 23852KiB time=00:01:53.24 bitrate=1725.5kbits/s speed=69.8x .......... 576i SD-DV -> AV1_VAAPI at default VBR ffmpeg -hide_banner -vaapi_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -i dv01_07.dv -vf 'format=nv12,hwupload' -c:v av1_vaapi dv01_07_av1_vaapi.webm frame= 2832 fps=1324 q=-0.0 Lsize= 81317KiB time=00:01:53.28 bitrate=5880.6kbits/s speed= 53x 576i SD-DV->AV1_QSV at bv5600k ffmpeg -hide_banner -hwaccel_output_format qsv -qsv_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -i dv01_07.dv -c:v av1_qsv -preset 4 -b:v 5600k dv01_07_av1_qsv_pr4_bv5600k.webm frame= 2832 fps=1713 q=-0.0 Lsize= 81600KiB time=00:01:53.24 bitrate=5903.1kbits/s speed=68.5x ....... du -sh dv*.dv dv*vaapi*.webm dv*qsv*.webm 389M dv01_07.dv 28M dv01_07_av1_vaapi_bv1570k.webm 80M dv01_07_av1_vaapi.webm 24M dv01_07_av1_qsv_pr4_bv1570k.webm 80M dv01_07_av1_qsv_pr4_bv5600k.webm In this SD-DV case, VAAPI encoding is 12% faster than QSV with 15% smaller file size at bv1570k bitrate, while QSV is 29% faster than VAAPI at bv5600k bitrate. ---------------------------- 1080i HDV -> AV1_VAAPI at 3700k VBR ffmpeg -hide_banner -vaapi_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -i hdv09_04.m2t -vf 'format=nv12,hwupload' -c:v av1_vaapi -b:v 3700k hdv09_04_av1_vaapi_bv3700k.webm frame= 5963 fps=631 q=-0.0 Lsize= 153106KiB time=00:03:58.77 bitrate=5252.8kbits/s speed=25.3x 1080i HDV->AV1_QSV at 3700k fmpeg -hide_banner -hwaccel_output_format qsv -qsv_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -extra_hw_frames 16 -i hdv09_04.m2t -c:v av1_qsv -preset 4 -b:v 3700k hdv09_04_av1_qsv_pr4_bv3700k.webm frame= 5963 fps=473 q=-0.0 Lsize= 113271KiB time=00:03:58.77 bitrate=3886.1kbits/s speed=18.9x ....... 1080i HDV -> AV1_VAAPI at default VBR ffmpeg -hide_banner -vaapi_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -i hdv09_04.m2t -vf 'format=nv12,hwupload' -c:v av1_vaapi hdv09_04_av1_vaapi.webm frame= 5963 fps=629 q=-0.0 Lsize= 153106KiB time=00:03:58.77 bitrate=5252.8kbits/s speed=25.2x 1080i HDV->AV1_QSV at 12600k ffmpeg -hide_banner -hwaccel_output_format qsv -qsv_device /dev/dri/renderD128 -extra_hw_frames 16 -i hdv09_04.m2t -c:v av1_qsv -preset 4 -b:v 12600k hdv09_04_av1_qsv_pr4_bv12600k.webm frame= 5963 fps=476 q=-0.0 Lsize= 370043KiB time=00:03:58.77 bitrate=12695.6kbits/s speed= 19x du -sh *.m2t hdv*vaapi*.webm hdv*qsv*.webm 745M hdv09_04.m2t 150M hdv09_04_av1_vaapi_bv3700k.webm 375M hdv09_04_av1_vaapi.webm 362M hdv09_04_av1_qsv_pr4_bv12600k.webm 111M hdv09_04_av1_qsv_pr4_bv3700k.webm In this HDV case, VAAPI encoding is about 33% faster than QSV with 25% - 4% smaller file sizes. Background info: ---------------- How to Identify & Find Graphics Drivers for Linux https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005520/graphics… lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display' 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation DG2 [Arc A750] (rev 08) Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 6002 Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: i915, xe Vaapi and libva packages installed: S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+--------------------+---------+----------------------+--------+---------------------- i | intel-vaapi-driver | package | 2.4.1-5.13 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Slowroll-Oss i | libva-drm2 | package | 2.21.0-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Slowroll-Oss i | libva-glx2 | package | 2.21.0-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Slowroll-Oss i+ | libva-utils | package | 2.20.1-1.3 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Slowroll-Oss i | libva-wayland2 | package | 2.21.0-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Slowroll-Oss i | libva-x11-2 | package | 2.21.0-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Slowroll-Oss i | libva2 | package | 2.21.0-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Slowroll-Oss i | Mesa-libva | package | 24.0.8-1699.384.pm.1 | x86_64 | Packman Information for package intel-vaapi-driver: ------------------------------------------- Summary : Intel Driver for Video Acceleration (VA) API for Linux Description : Intel Driver for Libva is a library providing the VA API video acceleration API. Information for package libva-drm2: ----------------------------------- Summary : DRM backend for the Video Acceleration API Description : The libva library implements the Video Acceleration API. The library loads a hardware dependendent driver. This is the VA/DRM runtime library. Information for package libva-glx2: ----------------------------------- Summary : GLX backend for the Video Acceleration API Description : The libva library implements the Video Acceleration API. The library loads a hardware dependendent driver. This is the VA/GLX runtime library. Information for package libva-utils: ------------------------------------ Summary : A collection of utilities and examples to exercise VA-API Description : libva-utils is a collection of utilities and examples to exercise VA-API in accordance with the libva project. A driver implementation is necessary to properly operate. Information for package libva-wayland2: --------------------------------------- Summary : Wayland backend for the Video Acceleration API Description : The libva library implements the Video Acceleration API. The library loads a hardware dependendent driver. Information for package libva-x11-2: ------------------------------------ Summary : X11 backend for the Video Acceleration API Description : The libva library implements the Video Acceleration API. The library loads a hardware dependendent driver. This is the VA/X11 runtime library. Information for package libva2: ------------------------------- Summary : Video Acceleration API Description : The libva library implements the Video Acceleration API. The library loads a hardware dependendent driver. This is the core runtime library. Information for package Mesa-libva: ----------------------------------- Summary : Mesa VA-API implementation Description : This package contains the Mesa VA-API implementation provided through gallium. vainfo Trying display: wayland error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is invalid or not set in the environment. Trying display: x11 libva info: VA-API version 1.21.0 libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/iHD_drv_video.so libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_20 libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0 vainfo: VA-API version: 1.21 (libva 2.20.1) vainfo: Driver version: Intel iHD driver for Intel(R) Gen Graphics - 24.1.3 () vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints VAProfileNone : VAEntrypointVideoProc VAProfileNone : VAEntrypointStats VAProfileMPEG2Simple : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileMPEG2Main : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileH264Main : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileH264Main : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileH264High : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileH264High : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileJPEGBaseline : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileJPEGBaseline : VAEntrypointEncPicture VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline: VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline: VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileHEVCMain : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCMain : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileHEVCMain10 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCMain10 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileVP9Profile0 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileVP9Profile0 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileVP9Profile1 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileVP9Profile1 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileVP9Profile2 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileVP9Profile2 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileVP9Profile3 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileVP9Profile3 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileHEVCMain12 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCMain422_10 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCMain422_10 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileHEVCMain422_12 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCMain444 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCMain444 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileHEVCMain444_10 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCMain444_10 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileHEVCMain444_12 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCSccMain : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCSccMain : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileHEVCSccMain10 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCSccMain10 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileHEVCSccMain444 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCSccMain444 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileAV1Profile0 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileAV1Profile0 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP VAProfileHEVCSccMain444_10 : VAEntrypointVLD VAProfileHEVCSccMain444_10 : VAEntrypointEncSliceLP FFmpeg ------- ffmpeg -hide_banner -buildconf | grep vaapi --enable-vaapi ffmpeg -hide_banner -encoders | grep av1 V....D libaom-av1 libaom AV1 (codec av1) V....D librav1e librav1e AV1 (codec av1) V..... libsvtav1 SVT-AV1(Scalable Video Technology for AV1) encoder (codec av1) V....D av1_nvenc NVIDIA NVENC av1 encoder (codec av1) V..... av1_qsv AV1 (Intel Quick Sync Video acceleration) (codec av1) V....D av1_amf AMD AMF AV1 encoder (codec av1) V....D av1_vaapi AV1 (VAAPI) (codec av1) A....D wmav1 Windows Media Audio 1 ffmpeg -hide_banner -h encoder=av1_vaapi Encoder av1_vaapi [AV1 (VAAPI)]: General capabilities: dr1 delay hardware Threading capabilities: none Supported hardware devices: vaapi Supported pixel formats: vaapi av1_vaapi AVOptions: -low_power <boolean> E..V....... Use low-power encoding mode (only available on some platforms; may not support all encoding features) (default false) -idr_interval <int> E..V....... Distance (in I-frames) between IDR frames (from 0 to INT_MAX) (default 0) -b_depth <int> E..V....... Maximum B-frame reference depth (from 1 to INT_MAX) (default 1) -async_depth <int> E..V....... Maximum processing parallelism. Increase this to improve single channel performance. This option doesn't work if driver doesn't implement vaSyncBuffer function. (from 1 to 64) (default 2) -max_frame_size <int> E..V....... Maximum frame size (in bytes) (from 0 to INT_MAX) (default 0) -rc_mode <int> E..V....... Set rate control mode (from 0 to 6) (default auto) auto 0 E..V....... Choose mode automatically based on other parameters CQP 1 E..V....... Constant-quality CBR 2 E..V....... Constant-bitrate VBR 3 E..V....... Variable-bitrate ICQ 4 E..V....... Intelligent constant-quality QVBR 5 E..V....... Quality-defined variable-bitrate AVBR 6 E..V....... Average variable-bitrate -blbrc <boolean> E..V....... Block level based bitrate control (default false) -profile <int> E..V....... Set profile (seq_profile) (from -99 to 255) (default -99) main 0 E..V....... high 1 E..V....... professional 2 E..V....... -tier <int> E..V....... Set tier (seq_tier) (from 0 to 1) (default main) main 0 E..V....... high 1 E..V....... -level <int> E..V....... Set level (seq_level_idx) (from -99 to 31) (default -99) 2.0 0 E..V....... 2.1 1 E..V....... 3.0 4 E..V....... 3.1 5 E..V....... 4.0 8 E..V....... 4.1 9 E..V....... 5.0 12 E..V....... 5.1 13 E..V....... 5.2 14 E..V....... 5.3 15 E..V....... 6.0 16 E..V....... 6.1 17 E..V....... 6.2 18 E..V....... 6.3 19 E..V....... -tiles <image_size> E..V....... Tile columns x rows (Use minimal tile column/row number automatically by default) -tile_groups <int> E..V....... Number of tile groups for encoding (from 1 to 4096) (default 1)

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