February 2019 - Cin - Cinelerra-GG Mailing Lists

Re: [Cin] Adding 'brightness/contrast' effect on track while playing can freeze Cin-GG?
by Andrea paz 17 Feb '19

17 Feb '19

No, I don't get crashes with standard CFLAGS. I put 6 plugins one after another, even heavy ones, without any problems.

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Playback slowdown
by Andrea paz 16 Feb '19

16 Feb '19

I did some tests again with the 2019/01/16 release and I don't notice any more slowdown problems with the playback.. Where before I went from 30 fps to 10 or even 1 fps; now I go from 30 to 27 - 28 fps. I'd say the problem is solved! Thank you very much. In my opinion, the mismanagement of mkvs and pngs remains; but no more than it always has been. Do you think it is better to open an issue on this subject?

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udf 2.5/2.6, Linux, k3b (links for info).
by Andrew Randrianasulu 16 Feb '19

16 Feb '19

While situation with writing (creating) udf 2.50/2.60 under Linux with only Open Source Software today is not much better than it was in 2010 * - some new development happens, and I found those links: http://www.osta.org/specs/pdf/udf260_lastDraftWithChanges.pdf 6.17 UDF Media Format Revision History (p. 159) -------- UDF 2.50 FID File Identifier length and Unicode uniqueness Disallow overlapping partitions Strategy 4096 only for WORM media UDF Unique ID Mapping Data Extended Attribute block alignment UDF Defined Named Streams section File Identifier translation code repair Correction of is_fileset_soft_protected rule Disallow hard linked directories Requirements for DVD-RAM/RW/R interchangeability Unique ID for System Stream Directory Shared description for some LVID and VAT fields Recommendations for Mount Rainier formatted media Recommendations for DVD+R and DVD+RW Section 3.3.6 put out of order UDF UniqueID clarifications Clarify partition Access Type 3 and 4 Icbtag Parent ICB Location issue Clarification of Volume Recognition Sequence Metadata Partition Map Partition Alignment & ECC Block Size Definition Non-allocatable space stream usage clarifications UDF 2.60 [...] ------- https://sites.google.com/site/udfintro/ Apparently big problem with 2.5 support is 5.3.4 Metadata partition and further on 5.3.5 Pseudo-overwrite partition. 5.3.4 Metadata partition Metadata partition is used to cluster metadata of the media together to get better performance. Metadata includes File Entries, allocation descriptors, directories, but does not include named streams or extended attributes. The metadata partition lies on top of the underlying partition, which could be a type 1 partition, sparable partition, or a pseudo-overwrite partition. The metadata partition consists of 3 files: the Metadata File, the Metadata Mirror File, and the Metadata Bitmap File. The Metadata File and Metadata Mirror File have duplicated metadata -- File Entries and Allocation Extent Descriptors. They may optionally have duplicated data, i.e., each metadata has two copies on the media. To simplify the following discussion, we assume that the Metadata Mirror File does not duplicate the Metadata File content. All data in the metadata partition are stored in the Metadata File. The logical block number in the metadata partition is the file offset in the Metadata File. Since some space in the Metadata File may be unused, the Metadata Bitmap File is used to keep track of the free space in the Metadata File. The metadata for the Metadata File, Metadata Mirror File, and Metadata Bitmap File are stored on the underlying type 1 (or sparable or pseudo-overwrite) partition. These are the only metadata that are not stored in the metadata partition. The data of the Metadata File and Metadata Mirror File must be aligned to the media ECC block size or packet size, whichever is bigger, and its size must be a multiple of the media ECC block size or packet size, whichever is bigger. [....] 5.3.5 Pseudo-overwrite partition The pseudo-overwrite partition (POW) is used for next-generation write-once media (e.g., Blu-ray Disc recordable or BD-R) on next-generation intelligent drives. These drives manage the address translation within the drive (what the virtual partition does before) to make the partition appear as an overwritable although the physical media is write-once. When POW partition is used, the metadata partition shall also be used for metadata, in the hope that metadata are clustered and achieve better performance. However, on write-once media, even when data are logically clustered in one partition, they may physically be far apart on the media. Because a longer physical distance often implies poorer performance, whether the use of metadata partition can improve performance is questionable. In a media that supports POW partition, the media can be separated into several tracks. Each track has a Next Writable Address (NWA). A new block can be written to the NWA of any track. An existing block can be overwritten. The NWA of any track can change at any time. So NWA must be queried before any new block is written. ---------- https://github.com/pali/udftools/pull/7/commits - udf fsck, very ..experimental. In the meaintime udftools saw release 2.1, with such changelog: 2.1 Latest release 2.1 af40587 Verified This tag was signed with a verified signature. @pali pali GPG key ID: 8BF0C93D03E44352Learn about signing commits @pali pali released this Dec 28, 2018 Changes in 2.1 Fixed compilation with glibc >= 2.25 Allow to compile without libreadline Use pkgconfig for detection of udev rules directory Set minimal version of autoconf to 2.64 Enforce ISO C99 compiler Fixed support for big endian systems Fixed converting strings to integers Added support for UDF 1.50 Logical Volume Extended Information (contains volume label) Added support for UDF 1.01 revision Added workaround for Year 2038 Bug udfinfo & udflabel: Fixed accessing disks when MVDS and RVDS descriptors points to same location Fixed support for disks >= 4GB on 32bit systems Implemented reading VAT outside of outside of ICB Various fixes for reading UDF descriptors mkudffs: Space optimization for small disks Allow to set alignment of UDF structures via --packetlen option for any media type Fixed alignment of VAT and generation of DVD-R and BD-R discs cdrwtool: Disallow specifying unsupported UDF revisions ---------- https://k3b.kde.narkive.com/2HYlNTlJ/bug-257602-k3b-cannot-burn-blurays-or-… [Bug 257602] K3B cannot burn Blurays (or AVCHDs) from 2018 posts it seems you can at least burn pre-formatted udf 2.5/2.6 image? (be aware about bugs) * - https://irishjesus.wordpress.com/2010/10/17/blu-ray-movie-authoring-in-linu…

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Keyframes Autos and Title plugin
by Andrea paz 15 Feb '19

15 Feb '19

I wanted to put writings that would appear gradually thanks to the keyframes autos. But it didn't work, and the writings all appeared together as if there were no keyframes. The following sentences appear in the terminal: BOOBY! /home/paz/cinelerra5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/./cin(_Z5boobyv+0x3f) [0x557069fa9b2f] /home/paz/cinelerra5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/./cin(_ZN13BC_WindowBase9draw_lineEiiiiP9BC_Pixmap+0x3b) [0x557069fb9a9b] /home/paz/cinelerra5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/./cin(_ZN10BC_ListBox11draw_borderEi+0x73) [0x557069f7dc73] /home/paz/cinelerra5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/./cin(+0x9707fb) [0x557069f7e7fb] /home/paz/cinelerra5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/./cin(_ZN10BC_ListBox16center_selectionEv+0x4e) [0x557069f7f2ae] /home/paz/cinelerra5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/plugins/video/sketcher.plugin(_ZN17SketcherCurveList6updateEi+0x1a0) [0x7f1b8002a4c0] /home/paz/cinelerra5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/plugins/video/sketcher.plugin(_ZN18SketcherCurveColor17handle_done_eventEi+0x76) [0x7f1b8002a5f6] /home/paz/cinelerra5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/./cin(_ZN15BC_DialogThread3runEv+0xd8) [0x557069f6fb78] /home/paz/cinelerra5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/./cin(_ZN6Thread10entrypointEPv+0x45) [0x557069fc5995] /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x7a9d) [0x7f1b91b4ea9d] /usr/lib/libc.so.6(clone+0x43) [0x7f1b90accb23] It's just about the sketcher plugin I used before, but not about Title. But they are phrases that have never appeared before and that I do not know. There's also a Booby! I just can not understand what is happening to my system + CinGG.

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Fwd: gcc and avx (resend)
by Andrew Randrianasulu 13 Feb '19

13 Feb '19

Actually, testing this line of optimizations for x86-64 now: "-O3 -ffast-math -ftree-vectorizer-verbose=6 -mavx -msahf -mfma -fopt-info-vec-missed=missed_vec.log -march=native -mtune=native -fPIC" note, -fopt-info-vec-missed=missed_vec.log will produce huge log file, telling developers about missed vectorization opportunities. Also, there was -mfpmath=both flag to test, not tested yet https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1477356 ---------- Пересланное сообщение ---------- Тема: gcc and avx (resend) Дата: Вторник 12 февраля 2019 Отправитель: Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> Получатель: "Cinelerra.GG" <cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> resend without attached script. You can download it anyway, but better to save those scripts localy, i think? because online hosters may disappear .... ----------------- Well, I don't know asm, so i looked for some nice script for searching inside objdump's output.. Found this: https://superuser.com/questions/726395/how-to-check-if-a-binary-requires-ss… this leads to https://pastebin.com/A8bAuHAP (attached) running it on color3way plugin resulted in few AVX instructions! objdump -M intel -d /dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/color3way/i686/color3way.o | ./opcodes.sh -s SSE2 -s SSE3 -s SSE -s AVX | less ------------------------ 16e: c5 f8 77 vzeroupper -- 427: c5 f8 77 vzeroupper -- 69c: c5 f8 77 vzeroupper -- 721: c5 f8 77 vzeroupper -- e88: c5 f8 77 vzeroupper -- f20: c5 f8 77 vzeroupper -- 1000: c5 f8 77 vzeroupper -- 104e: c5 f8 77 vzeroupper -- 4130: c5 f8 77 vzeroupper ----------------------------- cflags were: cat /dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/color3way/i686/c_flags -O3 -march=native -mtune=native -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -DCIN="cin" -DCINLIB_DIR="/usr/lib/cin" -DCINDAT_DIR="/usr/share/cin" -DCONFIG_DIR="$HOME/.bcast5" -DPLUGIN_DIR="/usr/lib/cin/plugins" -DLOCALE_DIR="/usr/share/locale" -DLADSPA_DIR="/usr/lib/cin/ladspa" -DCIN_BROWSER="firefox" -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-math-errno -fno-signed-zeros -pthread -Wall -Wno-unknown-warning -Wno-unused-result -Wno-stringop-overflow -Wno-format-truncation -Wno-format-overflow -Wno-parentheses -Wno-stringop-truncation -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -DPNG_SKIP_SETJMP_CHECK=1 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/uuid -I/usr/local/include/uuid -I/usr/include/mjpegtools -I/usr/local/include/mjpegtools -I/usr/include/OpenEXR -I/usr/local/include/OpenEXR -DHAVE_CIN_3RDPARTY -DHAVE_GL -DHAVE_XFT -DHAVE_XXF86VM -DHAVE_OSS -DHAVE_ALSA -DHAVE_FIREWIRE -DHAVE_DV -DHAVE_DVB -DHAVE_VIDEO4LINUX2 -DHAVE_OPENEXR -DHAVE_LV2 -DHAVE_COMMERCIAL -DHAVE_LIBZMPEG -DHAVE_SHUTTLE -I../ -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../cinelerra -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../guicast -I../colors -fPIC -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/a52dec-0.7.4/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/djbfft-0.76/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/ffmpeg-4.1/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/giflib-5.1.4/lib -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/ilmbase-2.2.1/Iex -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/ilmbase-2.2.1/Half -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/ilmbase-2.2.1/Imath -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/ilmbase-2.2.1/config -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/ilmbase-2.2.1/IlmThread -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/lame-3.100/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/libraw1394-2.1.2/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/libogg-1.3.3/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/libtheora-1.1.1/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/libuuid-1.0.3/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/libvorbis-1.3.6/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/libvorbis-1.3.6/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0/lavtools -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0/utils -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/libaom-v1.0.0/usr/local/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/openexr-2.2.1/IlmImf -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/openexr-2.2.1/config -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/openjpeg-2.3.0/src/lib/openjp2 -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/twolame-0.3.13/libtwolame -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/x264-snapshot-20190117-2245-stable/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/x265_3.0/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/x265_3.0/source -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/libvpx-1.7.0/. -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/opus-1.3/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/lv2-1.14.0/usr/local/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/lv2-1.14.0/usr/local/lib64/lv2 -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/lv2-1.14.0/usr/local/lib/lv2 -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/lilv-0.24.2/usr/local/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/sratom-0.6.0/usr/local/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/serd-0.28.0/usr/local/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/sord-0.16.0/usr/local/include -I/dev/shm/tmp/cinelerra-goodguy-20190211/cinelerra-5.1/plugins/../thirdparty/suil-0.8.4/usr/local/include but resulting speed still around 9 fps :( 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Re: [Cin] MLRAW
by Andrew Randrianasulu 12 Feb '19

12 Feb '19

В сообщении от Wednesday 13 February 2019 00:56:50 edouard chalaron написал(а): > Point was to avoid huge intermediate files, I think, and save some > time, too. > But well, ffmpeg apparently handles those files a bit wrongly - for > example by > default it tries to stuff data into just rgb24 - probably ok for > display, but > whole point of those huge raw files was additional color precision > (and > avoidance of h264 artefacts). > > Agreed but there is a trade off between time and storage.Storage > getting cheaper by the minute, I choose to use storage, on RAID0 or > SSDs > I read that you want to avoid big files and also avoid h264 artefacts, > fair enough, I think everyone would like it.Truth is ... I don't > believe it's that possible. Exporting Raw to H264 for editing is not a > good idea anyway as you mentionnedAnd getting Raw to a readable format > is not fast and it has to be done at some at some stage. > Unless GG comes up with another miracle ! :-D > So which codec then .. PRORES does handle 10 bits and up 4444, which is > pretty good for color resolution.DNX was better but more limiting and > not sure if it handles more than 24with PRORES you can throw any > geometry, frame rate, color depth or about > You can also export in TIFF either 24 or 48 bits with ffmpeg (even more > than 48 actually), depending on your source.Cin is very fast to open a > sequence of TIFF files.Then you are sure that you are not loosing any > color info, PRORES still being a (slightly) lossy codec. > I dont think there is any point exporting in h264 unless you do a > lossless, but then ... export in TIFF files, faster / better. A bit of > a Neanderthal solution, I agree, but reliable. > As for ffmpeg reading the stream, ffmpeg won't find out, it's raw > video, there is zero info as per what ffmpeg should read, hence the > command line aboveIn my case it's either rgbXX or bgrXX (I think there > is more than just these 2 though) As I see it, trying to incorporate > raw video in Cin* is reinventing the wheel.There is already the tools > needed for conversion and Cinelerra is an editing software not a video > converter. > Just sharing my experience / needs / ideas etc ... CheersEd Thanks! Sure, I was pointed at already-existing pre-processor/convertor, posted link to Cin forum. It sort of assumes proprietary software inter-action (Final Cut Pro), but may be things can be worked other way around, and so they will add Cinelerra on linux :} (but for this developer(s) of this software must be aware about Cinelerra ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mmnG5uBJok (english version, MLVapp review) > > > from https://thndl.com/life-without-artifacts.html > > > > ------quote--------- > > So, I've taken the plunge and moved to RAW. I have hundreds of > > gigabytes > > (seriously) of artifact-free footage recorded in the latest Magic > > Lantern MLV > > (RAW v2) file format. Now what. How do I watch it? > > The tools seem to be lagging a bit behind here. The start of most > > "workflow" > > right now is to use the mlv2dng tool to create individual files for > > each raw > > frame in the video in Adobe's widely understood DNG format. > > If you have a Mac or Windows, those thousands of DNGS can then be > > imported > > either into a tool like Adobe After Effects, or DaVinci Resolve > > (which > > currently needs an NVIDIA GPU). Those allow fine control of colour > > mapping > > (usually called "grading") and other effects using the full colur > > resolution, > > before you finally convert the result into a compressed video. > > If you're using Linux, like me, different options are needed. A not- > > so-quick but > > dirty way to preview the video is to use a couple of commands like: > > dcraw -T *.dng > > ffmpeg -i %6d.tiff -vcodec mjpeg -r 25 -q:v 1 video.avi > > > > This can still take a little while to churn through the images, and > > then ffmpeg > > doesn't always seem to do a great job mapping the colour ranges. But > > it works. > > Only don't forget to delete all the intermediate files afterwards > > otherwise you > > will have quintupled your file space. > > This approach quickly got tedious for me after working with more than > > a few > > videos. What I really wanted was something that could just play all > > the raw > > videos directly like any other video format, so I could decide which > > ones > > deserved further editing. > > > > --------------end of quote---- > > > > quote above talks about MLV files specifically > > > > > Depending on the machine bgr24/48 may need to be rgb24/48. I use > > > either > > > of them depending on the camera I use > > > Only if my assumption of the rawvideo concept is what we are > > > talking > > > about here !CheersEd > > > > > > On Tue, 2019-02-12 at 12:53 -0700, Phyllis Smith wrote: > > > > This morning GG had time to look at this. (BTW, he is not much > > > > for > > > > reading or writing email so I have to let him know and then type > > > > in > > > > his response, so sometimes I do not get it all conveyed > > > > correctly). > > > > > > > > When I initially read only a few of the 86 pages, I searched for > > > > some > > > > download MLV examples and downloaded a couple from one place and > > > > then > > > > 1 from where Andrew mentioned. Apparently ffmpeg can load them > > > > into > > > > cinelerra and the Video compression in Info is rawvideo, but of > > > > course they look awful as is (maybe a proper LUT would solve > > > > this?). > > > > > > > > We also checked to see if "dcraw" of Dave Coffin handles this raw > > > > format as that is his area of expertise and saw no reference on > > > > his > > > > web site concerning Magic Lantern. But we still tried using > > > > Cinelerra's probe order in Settings to see whether his included > > > > program handled it. It did not. > > > > > > > > Bottom line is that if there is ever a user who really needs to > > > > be > > > > able to handle MLV files in cinelerra, gg could see about doing > > > > that > > > > and will keep this in mind. gg/Phyllis

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MLRAW
by Andrew Randrianasulu 12 Feb '19

12 Feb '19

Hello, all! Today I asked Eugenia Loli about what she thinks about modern free/open video editors for Linux, and she pointed me at something I never heard before : https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.0 Topic: Magic Lantern (RAW) Video format v2.0 (mlv_rec.mo) ----------------------- for developers: mlv file structures in C: here (LGPL) https://www.magiclantern.fm/modules/modules/mlv_structure.zip/mlv_structure… ----------------------- forum thread have like 86 pages, so it will take _a while_ to just read.

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Slackware 14.2 64-bit works too
by Andrew Randrianasulu 12 Feb '19

12 Feb '19

..after installing python3 (latest Cin-GG uses it for somescript during build process). Default optimizations ("-O2, -fPIC") resulted in 22 fps playback with color3way effect enabled over 1280x720 (RGBA-8 color format in project - default) video. Upgrading optimizations to "-O3 -ffast-math -march=native -mtune=native -fPIC" resulted in 30 fps playback! Switching video output to OpenGL resulted in less fps. At most 64-bit Cin-GG can play two 1280x720 h264 MOV videos one on top of another, where one video with color3way effect and another - 50% transparent. 22 fps :} I'm still not sure if resulted Cin-GG compilation actually correct (mathematically-speaking). You can compile 'normal' and 'optimized' version and just swap some plugins, even one-by one and see if they still work correctly?

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Update (was: Already half-working? (was: Re: MLRAW))
by Andrew Randrianasulu 12 Feb '19

12 Feb '19

hm, apparently green video was noticed while developing this format, there was sggestion it can be cause by wrong image temperature settings: ------------quote start--------- RenatoPhoto Moderators Hero Member *****Posts: 1509 5DM3 / 7D Re: Magic Lantern (RAW) Video format v2.0 (mlv_rec.mo) « Reply #1022 on: December 26, 2013, 10:46:52 PM » I compiled myself for 5D3 including a "make clean" and make for the new modules. For some reason my modules do not always get compiled when something new gets updated. Tested "as is" with the camera settings as have been saved by g3goo. Great results all audio is pretty well matched. I get better alignment if I move the audio forward by 1 frame. Changed setting to Preview=Hacked and also enabled Mrmory Hack, and card spanning ON. Tested with Card spanning ON at 1920x1080 at 29.97 fps and the audio matched again! Tested with Card spanning ON cropped video at 1920x1080 at 29.97 and had to slide audio forward by many frames and then to shrink the audio a bit. After that it matched. Tested with Card spanning ON 60 fps at 1600x560 the audio could not be synched by trimming or stretching or sliding, the audio was there but could not align. Tested with Card spanning ON Tested 50 fps at 1856x650 the audio could not be synched by trimming or stretching or sliding, the audio was there but could not align. For Post processing I always used MLVBrowseSharp and exported to DNG (with green cast) then I imported the dng and wav file to Vegas. Noticed that the green cast on dng is not due to BlackLevels. It appears that Color Temperature and Tint information is missing. As soon as I set in ACR Temperature to 5000 and tint to 0 the colors seem appropriate. ------------quote end---- src: https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.1000 I also fished out link to specialized open-source player from this thread https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/src/e7abaaf4cf9b?at=master "About MlRawViewer is a cross-platform viewer for raw video files produced by the Magic Lantern add-on software for Canon DSLR cameras. (See http://www.magiclantern.fm/ for more details). It supports both the original RAW format, and the newer MLV (RAW v2.0) format in both single and multi-file versions. It can also play CinemaDNG file sets." not tested it yet (python ..) https://thndl.com/how-dng-compresses-raw-data-with-lossless-jpeg92.html https://thndl.com/life-without-artifacts.html some more info for curious non-coders like me and hopefully also for GG. ---------- Пересланное сообщение ---------- Тема: Fwd: Already half-working? (was: Re: [Cin] MLRAW) Дата: Вторник 12 февраля 2019 Отправитель: Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> Получатель: "Cinelerra.GG" <cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> https://ibin.co/4WjDk0hiCa2W.png (Cinelerra-GG with ff_LUT3d filter loaded with file from Danne - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4tCJMlOYfiranRiRHhJMTA2Sjg/view?usp=shari…) but this way it of course slower ..much slower (32-bit Cin-GG, yet to test with 64-bit Cin-GG) ---------- Пересланное сообщение ---------- Тема: Fwd: Already half-working? (was: Re: [Cin] MLRAW) Дата: Вторник 12 февраля 2019 Отправитель: Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> Получатель: "Cinelerra.GG" <cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> upd: https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=18392.0 but I can't see images with LUT filter? ----------------- Re: FFmpeg-Play with MLV Raw Support « Reply #6 on: December 11, 2016, 06:39:27 PM » Here is a little quick test with a 3D correction lut created in DaVinci resolve. I just played with this manually, no math, could be much better. Command goes like this. 3D lut download https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4tCJMlOYfiranRiRHhJMTA2Sjg/view?usp=shari… Code: [Select] FFplay -vf lut3d=drag/3d/lut/here your_file.MLV With 3D correction lut Without 3D corerction lut --------------- another link: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2017-April/035749.html also, first email from 2014 thread: https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2014-June/022073.html ---quote---- I want to use open source tools in my workflow for raw video, that doesn't involve batch processing frame by frame colour grades for video... I think ffmpeg could do this... I can't be the first person who's been looking at this. Looking forward to any feedback you might offer. John P Santos Photographer // Owner GREENBEEMEDIA.COM ------------quote end------------ so, it requires some metadata extracting and .. auto-applying at least one ffmpeg filter? ---------- Пересланное сообщение ---------- Тема: Already half-working? (was: Re: [Cin] MLRAW) Дата: Вторник 12 февраля 2019 Отправитель: Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> Получатель: "Cinelerra.GG" <cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> Actually, Cin-GG already can open some of those files. But colors are strange .... https://ibin.co/4Wiz8GXfP0Yz.png ffplay says: ffplay M13-0957.MLV ffplay version 2.8.11 Copyright (c) 2003-2017 the FFmpeg developers built with gcc 4.8.5 (GCC) configuration: --arch=i486 --target-os=linux --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --mandir=/usr/man --docdir=/usr/doc/ffmpeg-2.8.11 --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-static --enable-shared --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-ffmpeg --enable-ffplay --enable-ffprobe --enable-ffserver --enable-doc --enable-avdevice --enable-avcodec --enable-avformat --enable-avutil --enable-swresample --enable-swscale --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter --enable-avresample --enable-pthreads --enable-bzlib --enable-fontconfig --enable-frei0r --enable-gnutls --enable-iconv --enable-ladspa --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --disable-libbs2b --disable-libcaca --disable-libcelt --enable-libcdio --disable-libdc1394 --disable-libflite --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --disable-libgme --enable-libgsm --enable-libiec61883 --disable-libilbc --disable-libkvazaar --disable-libmodplug --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --disable-libpulse --disable-libquvi --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libsmbclient --enable-libsnappy --disable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --disable-libssh --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libv4l2 --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxcb --enable-libxvid --enable-libzvbi --enable-lzma --enable-openal --enable-opengl --enable-sdl --enable-x11grab --enable-zlib --disable-debug libavutil 54. 31.100 / 54. 31.100 libavcodec 56. 60.100 / 56. 60.100 libavformat 56. 40.101 / 56. 40.101 libavdevice 56. 4.100 / 56. 4.100 libavfilter 5. 40.101 / 5. 40.101 libavresample 2. 1. 0 / 2. 1. 0 libswscale 3. 1.101 / 3. 1.101 libswresample 1. 2.101 / 1. 2.101 libpostproc 53. 3.100 / 53. 3.100 [mlv @ 0xf1f004a0] scanning M13-0957.M00q= 0KB sq= 0B f=0/0 Input #0, mlv, from 'M13-0957.MLV': Metadata: guid : 0x7cb005420800a612 info : text: My son; take: 1; shutterValue : 30000 focalLength : 50 focalDist : 138 aperture : 0 stabilizerMode : 14 autofocusMode : 0 flags : 0 lensID : 0 lensName : 28-300mm wb_mode : 0 kelvin : 5700 wbgain_r : 491 wbgain_g : 1024 wbgain_b : 1024 cameraName : Failed to get properties. cameraModel : 0 wbs_gm : 0 time : 2013-08-13 09:57:10 isoMode : auto isoValue : 250 isoAnalog : 0 digitalGain : 0 wbs_ba : 0 Duration: 00:00:07.68, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 699691 kb/s Stream #0:0: Video: rawvideo (BIT[16] / 0x10544942), bayer_rggb16le, 1920x1288, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc 9.51 M-V: 0.000 fd= 103 aq= 0KB vq= 0KB sq= 0B f=0/0 ------------------- I found similar output via google, back in time it was not working corretcly https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2014-June/022112.html But then stream with audio fails to sound properly (in Cin-GG): ----------- ffplay M22-0126.MLV ffplay version 2.8.11 Copyright (c) 2003-2017 the FFmpeg developers built with gcc 4.8.5 (GCC) configuration: --arch=i486 --target-os=linux --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --mandir=/usr/man --docdir=/usr/doc/ffmpeg-2.8.11 --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-static --enable-shared --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-ffmpeg --enable-ffplay --enable-ffprobe --enable-ffserver --enable-doc --enable-avdevice --enable-avcodec --enable-avformat --enable-avutil --enable-swresample --enable-swscale --enable-postproc --enable-avfilter --enable-avresample --enable-pthreads --enable-bzlib --enable-fontconfig --enable-frei0r --enable-gnutls --enable-iconv --enable-ladspa --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --disable-libbs2b --disable-libcaca --disable-libcelt --enable-libcdio --disable-libdc1394 --disable-libflite --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --disable-libgme --enable-libgsm --enable-libiec61883 --disable-libilbc --disable-libkvazaar --disable-libmodplug --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --disable-libpulse --disable-libquvi --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libsmbclient --enable-libsnappy --disable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --disable-libssh --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libv4l2 --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxcb --enable-libxvid --enable-libzvbi --enable-lzma --enable-openal --enable-opengl --enable-sdl --enable-x11grab --enable-zlib --disable-debug libavutil 54. 31.100 / 54. 31.100 libavcodec 56. 60.100 / 56. 60.100 libavformat 56. 40.101 / 56. 40.101 libavdevice 56. 4.100 / 56. 4.100 libavfilter 5. 40.101 / 5. 40.101 libavresample 2. 1. 0 / 2. 1. 0 libswscale 3. 1.101 / 3. 1.101 libswresample 1. 2.101 / 1. 2.101 libpostproc 53. 3.100 / 53. 3.100 Ignoring attempt to set invalid timebase 1/0 for st:1 0B f=0/0 Input #0, mlv, from 'M22-0126.MLV': Metadata: guid : 0x996039816d1694c2 picStyleName : Auto lensName : EF50mm f/1.8 II digitalGain : 0 isoMode : auto isoValue : 220 isoAnalog : 0 shutterValue : 29994 focalLength : 50 focalDist : 0 aperture : 180 stabilizerMode : 0 autofocusMode : 3 flags : 0 lensID : 29 cameraName : Canon EOS 5D Mark III cameraModel : 2147484293 cameraSerial : 110091F150 wb_mode : 0 kelvin : 6500 wbgain_r : 128 wbgain_g : 1024 wbgain_b : 1024 wbs_gm : 0 wbs_ba : 0 picStyleId : 135 contrast : 0 sharpness : 3 saturation : 0 colortone : 0 time : 2013-12-22 01:26:18 Duration: 00:00:05.67, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 452809 kb/s Stream #0:0: Video: rawvideo (BIT[16] / 0x10544942), bayer_rggb16le, 1536x864, 23.98 tbr, 23.98 tbn, 23.98 tbc Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le ([1][0][0][0] / 0x0001), 44100 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1411 kb/s Seek to 54% ( 0:00:02) of total duration ( 0:00:05) B f=0/0 ALSA lib pcm.c:8424:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred 0B f=0/0 also, image dimensions not autodetected properly .... (I just loaded file via Open dialog) ---------- Пересланное сообщение ---------- Тема: Re: [Cin] MLRAW Дата: Вторник 12 февраля 2019 Отправитель: Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> Получатель: "Cinelerra.GG" <cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> В сообщении от Sunday 10 February 2019 22:28:55 Andrea paz написал(а): > Hi Andrew, Thank you for the news. Can I put the link back on the > forum? It could also be of interest to occasional visitors. upd: while reading forum found link to test files, they are still there, I hope (watched preview for already converted into avi 5 sec clip) https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BwQ2MOkAZTFHb3lmaTMzUV9uMWc ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Cin] Slackware 14.2 64-bit works too
by Benrob0329 12 Feb '19

12 Feb '19

From what I've been told x11-opengl will actually be slower than x11 because of some render path optimizations that Cinelerra has. Might be worth adding to your tests.On Feb 12, 2019 8:25 AM, Andrea paz <gamberucci.andrea(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I did some quick tests: > CFLAGS std --> -02 TIMEcompile= about 20 min > Playback --> unchecked "play every frame"; X11-OpenGL > > Only edit --> framerate achivied = 30 > edit + effects --> = 07 > > Renderig of 20 sec of mp4 video. Preset hd.youtube = 1 min 59 sec > > > CFLAGS new --> -03 -ffast-math TIMEcompile= about 20 min (the same!) > Playback --> unchecked "play every frame"; X11-OpenGL > > Only edit --> framerate achivied = 30 > edit + effects --> = 13 > > Renderig of 20 sec of mp4 video. Preset hd.youtube = 1 min 59 sec (the same!) > -- > Cin mailing list > Cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin

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