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Output video's do not have same color, brightness/contrast as sources
by gorge rankin 07 Jul '21

07 Jul '21

Hello all, I'm truly loving cin/gg as I've switched to it as my primary editor. I do have one slight problem, which I can work around. But I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong. My output video's don't look *exactly* like my sources. Even if I just drop in a video to CinGG and render it, the output is NOT the same as the input. I have to do these filters to get my output video kind of 'close' to that of my sources: Brightness/contrast filter: +.063 bright +1.292 contrast deselect boost luminance My input video's are recordings from OBS. I suppose I can just add more brightness & contrast inside of OBS and then they should come out of CinGG fine. I'd like to avoid adding filters to the render chain of cinGG to save me encoding time if I can. I have also completely removed my ~/.bcast folder and recreated my setup so as to avoid any conflicts there. Here is a 'mediainfo' output for a file that my OBS produces: General Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 File size : 5.81 MiB Duration : 1 s 934 ms Overall bit rate : 25.2 Mb/s Writing application : Lavf58.45.100 Writing library : Lavf58.45.100 ErrorDetectionType : Per level 1 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High(a)L5.1 Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, Reference frames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1 s 934 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 25.0 Mb/s Width : 2 560 pixels Height : 1 440 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 60.000 FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.113 Stream size : 5.76 MiB (99%) Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 I'm using the latest CinGG app image on Ubuntu 21.04. It works great BTW! I am using RGBA-8 Bit for my cin-gg format. I'm rendering from cingg to h264 as well. I have the nvidia binary driver installed, version: 465.31 I also have the CudaSDK installed here as well. The 'overlay' mode is 'normal' in CinGG for the video track The 'fade' is at 100 in CinGG. Thank you for all your hard work on CinGG ! I truly appreciate it!

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Re: [Cin] arm/termux + updates patches...
by Andrew Randrianasulu 05 Jul '21

05 Jul '21

full patchbomb (includes my exportedl series) at 43 patches again, rebased! On Saturday, July 3, 2021, Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Saturday, July 3, 2021, Phyllis Smith <phylsmith2017(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Checked into GIT, x264 of the June 15 Master but without any patches past >> that in order to maintain stability. >> > > > I hope it will work for everyone... > > this night I rebased my patches, but it was w/o your latest check in.. > > https://cloud.mail.ru/public/TnBV/HU4W1Cnek > > now I tried to rebuild gmic with x11 support (2.9.7) but it demands more > memory than I have on this tablet, so failed for now. > > I built new (7.0.1) mlt framework, but Python3 module (used by Flowblade > etc) does not work, and flowblade etc still not updated for mlt7.... > > thanks! > > >> >> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 2:34 AM Andrew Randrianasulu < >> randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> in case cloud.mail.ru failed to deliver.. >>> >>> oh, sigh.. libjpeg-turbo-2.1.0 fails to attach :/ >>> but you can vet it directly from project's website, i hope? >>> >>

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gmic's 'transition3d', mlt
by Andrew Randrianasulu 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

I was trying to rebuild gmic on termux with x11 support, but it requires too much memory..... but may be using gmic on set of images (exported by Cin and then re-imported) can be used as workaround for lack of native transitions of such nature? https://gmic.eu/reference/transition3d.html#top (i think you can try w/o blur first) I also built mlt 7.0.1 (multimedia framework) but w/o python support (so no flowblade). If you know any cool mlt command line I can try to run it here (on my small set of vids). Mlt7 apparently dropped few modules.. so kdenlive/flowblade must catch up with this. https://www.mltframework.org/docs/v7migration/

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Server & spam
by Sam 02 Jul '21

02 Jul '21

Hi guys, After a series of spam in our forum, today I removed these unwanted posts and immediately took the opportunity to update our server and forum to the latest version. For this reason, it may be that the server was briefly unavailable. If you have any problems with the latest updates please let me know. Happy creating. Cheers Sam

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New AppImages available dated June 30, 2021
by Phyllis Smith 30 Jun '21

30 Jun '21

In the Download area under images, are the newest AppImages including, for the first time, a 32-bit version: CinGG-20210630-i386.AppImage -- 32-bit version built on Debian 9.1 (so not really that old of a distro) CinGG-20210630-x86_64-older_distros.AppImage -- built on ubuntu 16 CinGG-20210630-x86_64.AppImage -- built on Fedora 32 Updated PDF and HTML versions of manual. Added Tag to both source and manual GITs. Put html tgz manual in images subdirectory so it matches for self-builders to add fo Alt/h hotkey in bin/doc. Release notes updated. ************** Release Notes Summary *********** Additional choices for high FPS rendering Settings→Format have been added by Andrew for Video and Audio. This mod fixes the problem reported by Gorge where it was not possible to render at a format over 60fps. A speed improvement using av1.webm when rendering was implemented by Andrew. This makes it now possible to use this as it is 7 times faster on at least 1 typical multi-cpu laptop. Gang Channels and Gang Media was not correctly handling disarmed tracks as reported by Scossu in the forum and BT #577. IgorBeg tested a fix by commenting out the relevant code. Additional mxf container render formats added by Andrew to include 6 new video + 2 audio. Other new render formats include: h263.mov, h263p.mov, and improved cinepak.qt speed. An OBS Studio user, Sparkill, has contributed a render format for creating a youtube based on video recorded in OBS with Color Format: I444 (yuv444p), Color Space: 709, Color range: Full (JPEG) called “obs2youtube.mp4” in the render format Video and Audio wrenches. Upgrade of third party library: libjpeg-turbo from 2.0.5 to 2.1.0 via Andrew.

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new overlay mode from Freelancer
by Andrew Randrianasulu 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

finally looked at history.. http://git.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/history.git;a=blobdiff;f=cineler… and made this patch (attached) it works softer than logical or porter/duff modes, but notiecably slower ( (on 8 core arm tablet) my modes fails to compile - something about me not really knowing how to write macro functions (?)

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possible cinepack profile speedup
by Andrew Randrianasulu 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

I basically added max_extra_cb_iterations=0 min_strips=3 this speedups encoder but quality is lower (not sure how much, was too inpatient to wait for 1 min clip encode at 352*144 25 fps! with those parameters ffmpeg encodes at nearly 3 fps, yay! In theory one can try to set up renderfarm + number parallel ffmpeg encoders, because encoder is single threaded - but I haven't tested this) also added two old (1996/8) h263 codecs - it theory they should be good for low-cpu decoding (on emulated computers for example), but apparently h263 without 'p' only good at few pre-defined resolutions? there is also speedhq.qt - for ffmpeg 4.4 (sadly ffmpeg can't encode video with alpha, as this mpeg2-like format supports...) sorry for not making progress on more important issues - I fiddled around with overlayframe.h - but I can't see my addons working? Either bug in code or I translated those blend modes wrongly.. there also two ffmpeg-4.4 patches recently added to git - they apply with patch -p1 yet not with git apply patch (misformatted patch).. Adds avc intra 300/480 if compiled against last x264 (15 june 2021)

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Problem with last Cinelerra-GG version
by david 28 Jun '21

28 Jun '21

Hi, all. I have tried running in my Debian system both AppImage file and Elive package, but both launch a segment violation error. Any other with this problem. I use Debian testing with last updates. Thank you. -- David

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I tried to add new blend mode but it does not work?
by Andrew Randrianasulu 26 Jun '21

26 Jun '21

see attached patch (it copypastes badly) it compiles but I tried solid-color track over fading png text (as in black_flash.xml) and I can't see it working? I just hope it can serve as guide what to modify for adding new modes.. I tried to write down math from this page: https://natron.readthedocs.io/en/rb-2.3/plugins/net.sf.openfx.MergePlugin.h…

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Re: [Cin] Fade black flash
by Andrew Randrianasulu 24 Jun '21

24 Jun '21

On Thursday, June 24, 2021, Phyllis Smith <phylsmith2017(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That is so weird. Well, I think will have to rely on Freelancer to know > what he is doing and > assume it will not break anything. Even if it is slower, it is a bad bug > and should be fixed. > I am glad you found the URL about the LINEAR and SRGB. > ah, got it.. I forgot to place png on underlaying track... (was using just background png in titler) while i still think it may be normal operation, considering you can 'fix' it by switching to porter-duff / srcOver? https://cloud.mail.ru/public/7a43/L2XrXVwAD nearly 30 mb.. or this is not that you generally want? should png itself contain alpha channel? (like they do in this case) or Cin's compositor will add it automagically as you load to rgba project? i mean if you do not want to use them as masks... > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 2:20 PM Andrew Randrianasulu < > randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> with vpn it works, in sense I clearly see fade to black before it starts >> to fade _from_ invisibility... >> >> but i stll can't get same effect locally ( >> >> On Thursday, June 24, 2021, Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> nope ( >>> >>> probably internet provider having troubles or just blocked addr .. ( >>> >>> i can try vpn but speed was not stellar last time I tried it.. >>> >>> sorry for inconvience ( >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021, Phyllis Smith <phylsmith2017(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Try this one instead: >>>> https://streamable.com/jcmq6j >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 2:03 PM Andrew Randrianasulu < >>>> randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021, Phyllis Smith via Cin < >>>>> cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Here is the demo playing the whole timeline >>>>>> https://streamable.com/v29e38 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> sorry, streamable returns 'address not found' error if I try to follow >>>>> this or any other similar link :( >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What I am so worried about this mod is because it probably affects >>>>>> the "Overlay Modes" in the Patchbay. >>>>>> That is Arithmetic, Logical, Normal, Porter Duff, Graphic -- I do not >>>>>> mind testing them but I am not sure that I can do a good job. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> well... it also probably will add some cpu overhead... may be 'gamma' >>>>> plugin can also hide this flashing effect? (looking purely at how changes >>>>> named...) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 1:06 PM Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin < >>>>>> cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021, Andrew Randrianasulu < >>>>>>> randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021, Phyllis Smith via Cin < >>>>>>>> cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Andrew, >>>>>>>>> Also, I downloaded your mp4 and looking at the bottom times on the >>>>>>>>> main window towards the right side, you should see problem at: >>>>>>>>> 0:00:04:01 and 0:00:25:07 IF you loaded the example starting at >>>>>>>>> the beginning of the timeline. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you mean by deleting part of timeline just before first title >>>>>>>> plugin? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can't see flash in this demo, even if in Youtube video at 0.25 >>>>>>>> speed I clearly can see it ( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also tried to check and uncheck 'play every frame' - but still >>>>>>>> bug not surfaced *for me now* even if I think I saw it on my desktop >>>>>>>> machine... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> new demo.. >>>>>>> https://cloud.mail.ru/public/fBmm/mpXTuszzH >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I play yours I do not see it >>>>>>>>> playing at that time. I "think" I see the flash at 0:00:06:2---- >>>>>>>>> but the time stamp is cut off in your demo. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 11:58 AM Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin < >>>>>>>>> cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> for some reason I can't see bug with X11/xv outputs (I do not >>>>>>>>>> have OpenGl in this environment..) and rgb/a-8 or yuv(a) 8 as project's >>>>>>>>>> colorformat ?? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://cloud.mail.ru/public/4Dcd/s58jmvHYF >>>>>>>>>> should give you screenrecord around 9 mb... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, Camille Harang via Cin < >>>>>>>>>> cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've attached the editing file along with the PNGs. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Camille. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 09/03/2021 à 01:41, Sam via Cin a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Camille, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I vaguely remember such a similar case, but it was a very long >>>>>>>>>>> time ago, hence this old work around with the fade line. >>>>>>>>>>> However, after trying to reproduce this problem currently, I >>>>>>>>>>> have not succeeded. It runs fine every time, just like Phyllis, without the >>>>>>>>>>> problem you describe. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My question to you. Which Cinelerra version are you using? Can >>>>>>>>>>> you show a screenshot or short video of your timeline scenario and what >>>>>>>>>>> parameters are set on your end so we can better reproduce the error? Maybe >>>>>>>>>>> we missed a setting you are doing and with an exact match of the setting we >>>>>>>>>>> can reproduce this issue. Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am 09.03.21 um 00:48 schrieb Phyllis Smith via Cin: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Camille, >>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, I never see a flash and I have tried several >>>>>>>>>>> variations based on your description with the "fade in text parameter" >>>>>>>>>>> being the easiest. I did do a recording of it and planned to show that but >>>>>>>>>>> the recording does not do a precise capture job so you can not tell it is >>>>>>>>>>> working correctly. There was no flash when playing at normal speed and >>>>>>>>>>> then I tried single stepping and still no flash. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Andrea, >>>>>>>>>>> I will try attaching a screenshot of how to set this up easily >>>>>>>>>>> with the hopes that you can try that. Basically, I just created about 3 >>>>>>>>>>> seconds of nothing and added a Title plugin making sure to set the Fade >>>>>>>>>>> parameter on the Title menu to 3.0 seconds (I use the reset button first to >>>>>>>>>>> make sure there are no leftover weird settings). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:22 AM Camille Harang via Cin < >>>>>>>>>>> cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam, thanks for your reply, yes the fade line works, however >>>>>>>>>>>> it's not suitable for what I want to do, I want to fade many snippets of >>>>>>>>>>>> text and transparent PNGs on the same track, with always the same video >>>>>>>>>>>> transition filter set to the same duration. Otherwise it's too complicated >>>>>>>>>>>> to combine them on two tracks and adjust manually the fade curve for each. >>>>>>>>>>>> I posted the example of fade in text parameter as it's simpler than >>>>>>>>>>>> transition do explain, but it produces the same "black flash" bug. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Camille. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Cin mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cin mailing list >>>>>>> Cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org >>>>>>> https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >>>>>>> >>>>>>

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