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PulseAudio
by Andrea paz 04 Feb '20

04 Feb '20

I do not understand if Pulse Audio works "out of ten box" or we have to build it with its flag.

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CinelerraGG static and dynamic tar build for Gentoo version base 2.6
by Phyllis Smith 03 Feb '20

03 Feb '20

Finally were able to create a Gentoo system partition and build Cinelerra there. There are 2 tars available and because gg was able to incorporate Gentoo into Xen, he will be able to build these monthly (at least for awhile). They are at: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/tars/cinelerra-5.1-gentoo-20200202.x86_64… https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/tars/cinelerra-5.1-gentoo-20200202.x86_64… Standard tar install procedure as in the README.txt file in the download directory.

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New builds ready
by Phyllis Smith 02 Feb '20

02 Feb '20

New builds are ready and it includes the addition of OpenSuse Tumbleweed. We had network problems here the last 2 days so it took awhile to upload them. There is also a one-time BSD tar file in the "File Storage" area and Windows10 limited. What is in the release is documented in the releasenotes.pdf as usual and this month's is included below. The plan for Multiple Timelines this month did not work out as we could not come up with a solution. ----------------------------------------------------------------- *Cinelerra-GG (Version Infinity) Release Notes for 01/01/2020-01/31/2020 for builds* https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual.pdf The newly converted to *LaTeX manual* is complete and you can view the PDF from the website under Download->Documentation→User Manual. From within Cinelerra, the shell cmds icon has a pulldown for network access to this manual. Existing users will have to change the reference in their .bcast5 directory Cinelerra_rc file from a lower case “m” to an upper case “M”. Although there have been numerous contributors, Andrey’s push recommending latex and setting up the Github and Andrea’s conversion of the contents from .odt to .tex made it all happen. 1. New feature of editing/using a *File by Reference* has been added. In the load menu, this would be the EDL strategy of Reference (uwe request in BT # 318). Warning on usage is in the manual. 2. *WinTV Hauppauge remote control* added for over the air TV from within Cinelerra. This requires a small kernel mod that was checked into GIT. Additionally the previous ATI x10tv and android remotes were modified to provide similar interface. 3. *Windows 10 with Cygwin* limited Cinelerra build is now available. See the manual for install and details on usage. 4. *Pulse Audio* was added as it was needed for the MS Windows port. You will have to build with it. 5. *BSD *patch re-created as it has been 1.5 year since it was updated (Yuri request) and a tar created. 6. *Usability Improvements:* Open EDL, a recently added feature, has been amplified. In addition to the Insertion Strategy in the Load Files menu, there is now an EDL Strategy for advanced usage to load as a Clip, Nested, or File Reference. Group highlighting improvements have been added for drag and drop editing to prevent dropping on disarmed tracks and to correctly notify user via color highlights when dropping or overwrite is acceptable. In addition, there is now stickiness when next to another edit making it easy to drop exactly next to that edit (IgorB BT # 362). Settings→Preferences, Appearance menu has been rearranged because the Flags area was running out of space. Snapshot and Grabshot default destination has changed from /tmp to $HOME/Pictures so that new users will not be surprised when a reboot deletes their work. Existing users will have to manually change the location in Settings→Preferences, Interface tab, Snapshot Path (Rafa suggestion). *More Spanish translation* adjustments have been made by audiovisual technician, Rafa, to include the newly added phrases of the last few weeks. This is on top of all of the Spanish translations recently made by Sergio. Refinement by Rafa is to accommodate the different interpretations of the audiovisual world, which is very particular in this regard with some appropriate nuances. 7. *Bugs/Issues fixed:* A build probe fix for a52 has been added, stdint.h (ferdnyc, BT # 359). Nested Proxy fix to save the nested files in $HOME/Videos instead of Cinelerra executable directory. This makes it possible that saving your project in proxy mode will work correctly and nested files will not get accidentally deleted when install a new Cinelarra (IgorB email). Reworked perpetual session load/save strategy to handle levels with Open EDL and undo’s better. Fixed 3 lock boobies and minor build cleanups. Loaded clips now have the filename and modification time in the comments. Left margin for meters in the Compositor and Show Levels is slightly larger (IgorB report). Load window filebox resized to be a little bigger so no words are occluded. Added a target directory option to the Transcode menu making it convenient for DVD transcoding. Fixed broken vicon. DenoiseFFT plugin had a SEGV in an edge case that has been fixed (David analyzed/reported). A fix for spurious hard edges has been added. Minor one last fix for xft font problem, hopefully the last. FFmpeg color space / color range fix but not verified yet (Dejay reported).

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Windows 10 with Cygwin for Cinelerra limited
by Phyllis Smith 28 Jan '20

28 Jan '20

There is now available a Microsoft Windows 10 *limited* Cinelerra version which *requires Cygwin* installation on your windows system. It has only been minimally tested and the attached pdf file may have errors on how to load and run it. If there is any real interest in it, there could possibly be future improvements. GG/phyllis

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Chapter Plugins on Manual
by Andrea paz 27 Jan '20

27 Jan '20

About the chapter on plugins in the manual I would like to ask some questions: In Resource --> Info, the entries about automatic de-interlacing had been removed because they were not working. Do you remember the discussion where it was discussed? I can't find it. The Gradient Plugin was reworked; but the modifications were hidden, weren't they? Hasn't the configuration window changed? Are there any other plugins (except Sketcher and Tracer) that have changed?

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Nested clip and proxy
by Igor BEGHETTO 26 Jan '20

26 Jan '20

I was reading the manual "CinelerraGG_manual.pdf" (created March 31 2019) and the manual "CinelerraGG_manual_WIP.pdf" (dated 20190826) by LaTex about Nested Clips. (really good job, guys. And I could print it on the paper in a A5 size) I noticed... - "CinelerraGG_manual.pdf", pg.116, Nested Clips - "CinelerraGG_manual_WIP.pdf", pg.122, Nested Clips The final sentence: "...compositions. They can not be proxied" By my tests/works, you CAN create proxies for Nested clips. Proxies are created in Cinelerra folder (where there is "cin" file) instead of the clip folder as usual (with Cin TAR version. With Package version I don't know). Before saving your project, pay attention to disable Proxy feature. You MUST SAVE your PROJECT with PROXY DISABLED otherwise you lose the link to the clips (more or less). Is it right that proxies are created in Cinelerra folder? Is there any reasons they are not created in the clip folder? Thanks. IgorBeg

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Crash when using DenoiseFFT
by David Given 22 Jan '20

22 Jan '20

Hello, I have a sort-of-completely-reliable crash when using the DenoiseFFT plugin: when the plugin is enabled, everything is fine; when disabled, then it dies within about a second on either playback or rendering. The reason for saying sort-of-completely-reliable is because it only crashes with one specific project. I spent a while working on it, with DenoiseFFT enabled, and then it started falling over, so it's clearly something in my project which is doing this. But I don't know what (I needed to get things done so after I figured out it was DenoiseFFT's fault I just disabled it and continued). Attached is the full crash dump and video.xml file. The crash still manifests without the assets being available so it should be easy to reproduce. I hope this is useful... -- ┌─── http://www.cowlark.com ─── │ "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my │ telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out │ how to use my telephone." --- Bjarne Stroustrup

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Crash
by Andrea paz 22 Jan '20

22 Jan '20

With the last release (20/01/20) I have quite frequent crash problems. Maybe the problem is a loaded .png; maybe it's my PC that with an AMD navi 10 graphics card gives me continuous problems. I got the dump only without being root. Starting from root I didn't crash! >From console: FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream have bad times: /home/paz/video_editing/prova/1080/ocra.png FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream have bad times: /home/paz/video_editing/prova/1080/ocra.png audio0 pad 32 0 (32) FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream have bad times: /home/paz/video_editing/prova/1080/ocra.png audio0 pad 8 0 (8) audio0 pad 4 0 (4) FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream have bad times: /home/paz/video_editing/prova/1080/ocra.png audio0 pad 8 0 (8) audio0 pad 32 0 (32) audio0 pad 32 0 (32) audio0 pad 32 0 (32) audio0 pad 16 0 (16) ** segv at (nil) in pid 162210, tid 163161 writing debug data to /tmp/cinelerra_162210.dmp lock_items: 17 lock_frees: 16 ** dump complete Advice: «/bin/sh» crashed. PS: the data provided are few. Don't waste too much time on it because it's probably my system.

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Translate CinelerraGG in spanish
by Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux 22 Jan '20

22 Jan '20

I'm Spanish and I've been trying Cinelerra GG for a few days and I liked it so much that I decided to write a series of tutorials about the application. I have noticed many errors and misspellings in the Spanish translation, how can I help to correct and improve the translation? I am an audiovisual technician and my programming knowledge is very low. If you tell me the steps to follow I can help.

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Something to think about for the future -- Candidate release
by Phyllis Smith 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Recently in another email, IgorB had the following input/suggestion and I wanted to respond in a new thread. > It is very time consuming to learn a workflow and then to change it again. > Every time GG make a change in software it is a great time consuming > also for who have to update the Manual, I think. ... > I would like a release where users have more time to test in depth; > usually this pre-release is called candidate release (all of you know). > So the Manual,and the video tutorial, has a few of time to reflect the > software. > Of course, even though a "stable" release is out, there would always be > the rolling release (month release). Maybe eventually we could get to a "candidate" release thus relieving the burden of testing if more programmers become available. What I see as the major problem at this time is the fact that many of the Issue Tracker BTs have feature requests that are not obvious to us (as mentioned many a time, we are not artists). Consequently, as gg programs something, it is almost imperative to get immediate test feedback before it goes into the monthly builds because then it is really hard to change it. If instead a "candidate" release were used for 7 days before the builds, it might not be enough time to change things mostly because gg's brain gets loaded up working on a feature and then loaded with something entirely different. A lot of time is wasted re-visiting program code that was wiped out of his brain while working on a different section of code..

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