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Clips/Nested clips/Xml - new feature - best thing since sliced bread!
by Phyllis Smith 29 Dec '19

29 Dec '19

With the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is included with your project as Clips, Nested Clips, or Xml. For example, if you have a nested clip that originally had several plugins added to it before it was nested, you can edit those plugin parameter values. Previously to make any changes to these EDL clips/nested clips, you had to remake the whole clip from scratch. This is done via "Open EDL" and button click as described below by the ****. In addition a couple of modifications related to this are noticeable to include the following: - in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the wording which was "Nest" is now "Nest to Media" - in the Clip folder, when you actually perform "Nest to Media", the nested clip is only displayed in the Media folder for example: 1) load some test media, mode replace project 2) highlight a selection and press create clip. add notes and press ok. clip is created 3) in resources window, open the clip folder. clip1 is present 4) select clip1 and right mouse the item. select menu item Open EDL 5) timeline changes to just the clip content. 6) add a visible effect, like burning tv and press the [1] in the main menu bar. 7) timeline is restored to original media. 8) drag the clip from the resources folder to the timeline. The effect is visible. **** - in the Clip folder, there is a new option to "Open EDL" for the highlighted clip. When you choose this option, the clip will be brought up on the timeline. *VERY IMPORTANT to note*, the previous timeline EDL is "pushed onto a stack" (this is programmer talk) so it is remembered and to get back to that you have to "pop the stack" (more programmer talk) by clicking on the button in the upper right hand corner of the timeline above where the Proxy switch button would be. Usually this button will read 1 if you choose "Open EDL" and then 0 when back to your original timeline. You can go several levels deep so instead of 1, it could be 2, 3, ... but I got to tell you that you can get lost if you overdo it. Once the clip is open on the timeline, you can edit it however you want. - in the Media folder, once you have nested a clip, the Nested clip will be located here - in the Media folder, the option to unnest the clip is now called "EDL to clip" which results in the nested clip being reverted to a clip and back into the clip folder with only a name of "Clip #". The nested clip is also still in the Media folder. - in the Media folder, you now have the new option to "Open EDL" as described for clips above. But in this case when you Open EDL and edit the changes, those changes will take affect on any and all occurrences of that nested clip on the timeline. I will make a demo later. There are Debian 9/10 static tars that contain this and other mods in the Download / Documentation / File Storage at cinelerra-gg.org. Would be happy to make static tars for any other usual distro/version if you would like to test early.

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New feature. Is it real?
by preobraz＠gmail.com 29 Dec '19

29 Dec '19

Hello! I propose to consider the concept of new functionality. To improve the usability, it is useful to have constant access to all project resources in the viewing window. You can implement this using the tabs. Example: https://pic4a.ru/912/qba.gif -- Ugin.

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Re: [Cin] Clips/Nested clips/Xml - new feature - best thing since sliced bread!
by daniel-cinelerra-gg＠opayq.com 27 Dec '19

27 Dec '19

Thanks Phyllis! On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 7:24 PM Phyllis Smith < > wrote: > Preview: Fixes for the below have been used to build new static tars f --> > SPAM? CLICK to BLOCK > <> > > This email is Masked using Blur - it was sent from lists.cinelerra-gg.org > to daniel-cinelerra-gg(a)opayq.com (your reply stays Masked). To protect > your privacy <https://www.abine.com/faq.html#caniaddcc>, do not forward > this message, or add new recipients like CCs or BCCs. > > Thanks for being a Blur customer! If you haven't yet, [ Try DeleteMe at a > discount. > <https://joindeleteme.com/?utm_campaign=blur-offer&utm_source=masked-email-h…> > ] > > Fixes for the below have been used to build new static tars for Debian > 9/10 and Mint 18 at: > > > https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-debian9-x86_64-… > > https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-debian10-x86_64… > > https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-mint18-x86_64-s… > > The fixes have not yet been checked into GIT for others to build. Just a > reminder, although tested here as much as possible, there could still be > new and old bugs lurking so use caution. Other reminder of demo location: > https://streamable.com/3k6wl > > Just know that the *naming is solved now or for details*, read the list > of changes and other things below: > > 1 - When nesting clips en masse, the timestamp is added followed by the > name so that they are unique. The name in the case of an .xml file is > without the directory paths. > 2 - Truncation of the names should no longer be an issue. > 3 - in the Media and Clip folder, there are now "Close EDL" options. This > was added because if someone was just trying to figure out what "Open EDL" > meant without having read any documentation, they would never guess to > click on the # in the upper right corner of the timeline, and would think > that they lost there original session. In addition in the case of where > you have opened a EDL, and you no longer see that clip in the folder, the > right mouse button where no media is highlighted will also display the > Close EDL option. > 4 - If you have nested an .xml file in the Clip folder so that now it is > in the Media folder, when you unnest it via "EDL to Clip", it will now have > a name of the next available Clip # but the comment contains the previous > name so you can tell where it came from. > 5 - If naming is confusing to you, you can easily change the name for > these clips in either the Clip or Media folder because they are not real > files at this point. To do so, highlight the clip name in Resources, click > on Info and type in new name. > 6 - Because it may be confusing and usually unnecessary, a previously > unmentioned addition in all of this is "backup" updates. Automatically > Cinelerra saves a backup when certain changes are made or you can always > use the shortcut "b" to do one yourself, although keep in mind it will be > overwritten whenever Cinelerra wants to do another backup. Now there is a > shortcut for the shortcut "b" -- your fingers never have to even leave the > mouse -- just click on the #. If # is at 0, it backs up to backup.xml, if > at 1, it backs up to backup1.xml and so on ... up to backup9.xml. > > > > On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 8:34 PM Phyllis Smith <phylsmith2017(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> A GIT checkin was done about an hour ago to address some of the issues >> and some clean up. It works OK on fast computers but when GG created a >> Debian 9 build that was done on a slower computer there was a problem that >> he has to fix tomorrow. Workaround if testing Edit Edl-s "Nest to Media" >> is to not be using Vicons in the Resources window -- just use the text >> option instead. >> >> Bugs fixed will be described tomorrow when slower computer Vicons are >> working. >> >>> One bug I've found: if the path to the imported EDL is long, it gets >>> truncated. It would be nice to have th option of giving our own names to >>> the nested EDLs, or if they would assume the name of the origin file (maybe >>> they already do, but it's being truncated in my case). >>> >>> > > > -- > Cin mailing list > Cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >

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Re: [Cin] Clips/Nested clips/Xml - new feature - best thing since sliced bread!
by daniel-cinelerra-gg＠opayq.com 26 Dec '19

26 Dec '19

This is great, thank you so much! One bug I've found: if the path to the imported EDL is long, it gets truncated. It would be nice to have th option of giving our own names to the nested EDLs, or if they would assume the name of the origin file (maybe they already do, but it's being truncated in my case). On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 10:25 AM Igor BEGHETTO < > wrote: > > > > +1 > > Il 25/12/2019 6.38, Andrew Randrianasulu ha scritto: > > В сообщении от Wednesday 25 December 2019 07:59:05 Phyllis Smith > написал(а): > > > > Wow, this is interesting feature, will try to play with it later > > > > Thanks, Phyllis, for your tireless work on documenting/testing all those > features, and GG for implementing them! > > > > > >> With the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is included with your > >> project as Clips, Nested Clips, or Xml. For example, if you have a > nested > >> clip that originally had several plugins added to it before it was > nested, > >> you can edit those plugin parameter values. Previously to make any > changes > >> to these EDL clips/nested clips, you had to remake the whole clip from > >> scratch. This is done via "Open EDL" and button click as described > below > >> by the ****. > >> > >> In addition a couple of modifications related to this are noticeable to > >> include the following: > >> - in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the wording which was > "Nest" > >> is now "Nest to Media" > >> - in the Clip folder, when you actually perform "Nest to Media", the > >> nested clip is only displayed in the Media folder > >> > >> for example: > >> 1) load some test media, mode replace project > >> 2) highlight a selection and press create clip. add notes and press ok. > >> clip is created > >> 3) in resources window, open the clip folder. clip1 is present > >> 4) select clip1 and right mouse the item. select menu item Open EDL > >> 5) timeline changes to just the clip content. > >> 6) add a visible effect, like burning tv and press the [1] in the main > menu > >> bar. > >> 7) timeline is restored to original media. > >> 8) drag the clip from the resources folder to the timeline. The effect > is > >> visible. > >> > >> **** - in the Clip folder, there is a new option to "Open EDL" for the > >> highlighted clip. When you choose this option, the clip will be > brought up > >> on the timeline. *VERY IMPORTANT to note*, the previous timeline EDL is > >> "pushed onto a stack" (this is programmer talk) so it is remembered and > to > >> get back to that you have to "pop the stack" (more programmer talk) by > >> clicking on the button in the upper right hand corner of the timeline > above > >> where the Proxy switch button would be. Usually this button will read > 1 if > >> you choose "Open EDL" and then 0 when back to your original timeline. > You > >> can go several levels deep so instead of 1, it could be 2, 3, ... but I > got > >> to tell you that you can get lost if you overdo it. Once the clip is > open > >> on the timeline, you can edit it however you want. > >> > >> - in the Media folder, once you have nested a clip, the Nested clip > will > >> be located here > >> - in the Media folder, the option to unnest the clip is now called > "EDL > >> to clip" which results in the nested clip being reverted to a clip and > back > >> into the clip folder with only a name of "Clip #". The nested clip is > also > >> still in the Media folder. > >> - in the Media folder, you now have the new option to "Open EDL" as > >> described for clips above. But in this case when you Open EDL and edit > the > >> changes, those changes will take affect on any and all occurrences of > that > >> nested clip on the timeline. > >> > >> I will make a demo later. There are Debian 9/10 static tars that > contain > >> this and other mods in the Download / Documentation / File Storage at > >> cinelerra-gg.org. Would be happy to make static tars for any other > usual > >> distro/version if you would like to test early. > >> > > > -- > Cin mailing list > Cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >

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Small bug in the interface
by preobraz＠gmail.com 20 Dec '19

20 Dec '19

Hi all! I don’t remember whether a similar topic was raised, but just in case I’ll leave it here. https://pic4a.ru/912/_pb.gif -- Ugin

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Web server maintenance
by Sam 20 Dec '19

20 Dec '19

Hi guys, This coming weekend we will do some maintenance work on the web server to get the loading times under control, so there may be sporadic minor downtimes. Sam --

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Cinelerra 7.2 (Cinelerra-HV)
by Sam 19 Dec '19

19 Dec '19

Hi guys, Adam Williams has released his annual update again, to the new Cinelerra version 7.2, I wrote a news article. Which can be found on our news website. https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/news-updates/cinelerra-7-2-release/ Sam --

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Re: [Cin] installing Cin
by Sergio Daniel Gomez 11 Dec '19

11 Dec '19

When you do: "sudo apt-add-repo..... " you are adding the repository. This data is in /etc/apt/sources.list file or in a folder un /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ Then you must to edit this file (/etc/apt/sources.list or the file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/some-related-folder), for example: "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and modify the line "deb https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/ub18 bionic main" to add "[trusted=yes]" Then you must to update repositories (apt update) and install cinelerra (apt install cin) El 10/12/2019 a las 18:46, Douglas POllard escribió: > I just don't Understand this. I sure has gotten complicated to > Download Cinelerra to Xubuntu May someone can set me straight?? > Douglas Pollard > > > > douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ sudo > apt-add-repository > https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/ub18apt-add-repository > https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/ub18 > [sudo] password for douglas: > Error: need a single repository as argument > douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ deb > [trusted=yes] https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/ub18 bionic main > > Command 'deb' not found, did you mean: > > command 'dub' from snap dub (1.18.0) > command 'den' from snap den (1.2.0-0) > command 'dab' from deb bsdgames > command 'dex' from deb dex > command 'debc' from deb devscripts > command 'debi' from deb devscripts > command 'xdeb' from deb xdeb > command 'edb' from deb edb-debugger > command 'dep' from deb go-dep > command 'derb' from deb icu-devtools > command 'deb3' from deb quilt > command 'dub' from deb dub > > See 'snap info <snapname>' for additional versions. > > douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ apt update > Reading package lists... Done > E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: > Permission denied) > E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ > W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - > RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied) > W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - > RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied) > douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ apt install cin > E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (13: > Permission denied) > E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock > (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), are you root? > douglas@douglas-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-690-00xx:~$ > > On 12/10/19 9:53 AM, Sergio Daniel Gomez wrote: >> This line "deb [trusted=yes] >> https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/ub18 bionic main" must be in >> /etc/apt/source.list >> >> Edit this file to add this line, then update (sudo apt update) and >> then install (sudo apt install cin) >> >> Sergio >> >> El 10/12/2019 a las 11:49, Douglas POllard escribió: >>> Am trying to install cinelerra GG to xubuntu 18 .4. $ sudo deb >>> [trusted=yes] https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/ub18 bionic main >>> [sudo] password for douglas: >>> sudo: deb: command not found I have done this before but >>> cannot get cin installed now. Thanks for any help with this. >>> Douglas >>> >

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Slow Motion with high frame rate video
by Igor BEGHETTO 11 Dec '19

11 Dec '19

Hi all! First. Excuse me if I write here and not in the Forum. Second. If it can help somebody... take a look, please (even though many users know how to do that). "vidtut_SlowMotionWithHighFpsVideoSource.webm" https://streamable.com/7kon3 IgorBeg PS: Andrea_paz (and all), as usually it is your. Thanks. ;-)

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statistics for cinelerra
by preobraz＠gmail.com 11 Dec '19

11 Dec '19

Hello! Thank you very much for the next build of the excellent cinelerra program. Tell me, are there any download / usage statistics for cinelerra? It is very interesting whether the number of users is increasing. -- Ugin.

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