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Summary Report for week Dec. 8 through Dec. 14 on Cinelerra-GG
by Phyllis Smith 16 Dec '18

16 Dec '18

*Website:* - Sam continuously monitors the website and performs various server administration details to make sure that performance is as expected as usage ramps up. - Also, within the Forum and MantisBT there have been more items that require moderation by Sam. - Besides some page tweaks, Sam added a new bit of News from the Codec World. If you have some News you would like to share that may affect Cinelerra now or in the future, please pass it along so it can be added on the News page. *Forum:* - Tutorials in English are being requested by Terje. - How To article by Andrea on using Blue Banana to make a Chroma Key should prove useful to many. - Q&A has 3 pointers to some interesting websites. I thought OpenCine was particularly interesting. - Demo added by Phyllis (created by GoodGuy) shows some good usage for transitions in Cinelerra. *BugTracker:* A “HELP needed” tag should make it easy to locate problems or requests that might interest others. We are leaving resolved issues not closed for some period of time to make it easy for users who only occasionally visit to see them and will most likely close them a week after the end of the month builds are done. BTW: the lists below are often paraphrased and may be incomplete but I find it useful to create this list to review what needs to be done or find something that needs to be closed. *Several issues have been resolved and some have been closed: * 7 real drag and drop without having to lock tracks (not all aspects have been completed but very close) 8 windows layout not restored correctly (unmanaged window does not allow) 26 error deleting in timeline (fix applied and no further occurrences have been reported) 30 gitweb feature request for snapshot (not feasible, speed for user is minimal at expense of server) 32 increase the maximum zoom size of the new “source” target (resolved by adding this feature) 39 paste is not available for the forum (information provided to close this) 40 crash after deleting file in the media tab (resolved by bug fix) 41 flickering in the listbox of resources window (closed as no longer occurring) 43 extend working space of new “find pieces” feature (resolved by adding this feature) 46 context item delete in the clip tab broken (resolved by bug fix) 47 the preview window increased size is very pixelated (closed because this is memory constrained). 53 video effect color-3way white balance wrong (IgorBeghetto resolved by providing information) 54 shortcut digit keys for forward/reverse do not perform as expected (a little confusing, but is correct) *Quite a few new bugs/feature requests have been added as outlined below for you to check:* 31 the new function of identifying “source” targets still causes crashes (no new crashes yet) 34 label mouse over feature 35 translate the web site in different languages 37 select feature on media resources works bad if proxy enabled (still contemplating) 38 no red/white bar on preview vicon if proxy enabled (still contemplating) 42 live preview feature 44 phantom keyframes boxes (have not been able to reproduce yet; recognize is probably a bug) 45 load window apply minor bug (have to boot Leap to test; does not occur on Fedora with new bcast5) 48 proxy creation fails (mostly resolved, but some “to do” items in this ticket for Phyllis to respond to) 52 a better “search” feature than just ID for MantisBT 55 add filmmaking/editing section in forum (suggestions provided and may need more) 56 make Cinelerra Download manual available in download page (Sam did this, but Phyllis has work) 57 mark the thumbnail when the clip is used 58 changeable colors for the title and timeline background (gg started color for titles, “no” on background) 59 packaging issues identified in source tree (partially resolved, some more work to clean up) 60 cinelerra-gg sets unnecessary executable bits (mostly resolved but want to make sure good) 61 fedora installation instructions on website do not copy/paste correctly (Phyllis wants to fix this, having trouble) 62 google summer of code 2019 (HELP needed as administration might be overwhelming)

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by Phyllis Smith 15 Dec '18

15 Dec '18

There is a pdf file on using the latest Copy/Paste methods in Drag and Drop mode at: https://www.datafilehost.com/d/624176be There are a couple of test builds if anyone using ubuntu 16 or Mint 18 wants to try out early. https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-20181214-ub16-x… https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-ub16-20181211-x…

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Re: [Cin] Forum
by Terje J Hanssen 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

List members, gg/Phyllis wrote: > Andrea, > > > The Forum does not seem to be a success among old users. > > I was hoping it would replace the Mailing List because I have had comments > from people who hate the Mailing List and probably they just want to read > the Forum and not be bothered with more mail to go through. > > But the forum also has another function; it can happen to > > us a curious visitor or even just random. My request is then to put > > many video tutorials, How TO and Demo captivating that manage to > > attract the interest of an occasional visitor. > > > > I agree that random visitation is important too since we are trying > to get > the word out. I am supposed to be working on a beginner's tutorial > just to > catch some of the random users and to get the basics down, but keep > dragging my feet. I do have a pretty good start but too many > interruptions. We should try to at least add 1 demo a week so that the > forum keeps active. gg/Phyllis First I will congratulate all with the "new, fresh and clean home" for cinelerra-gg thanks to the good work done by Sam. And thanks to the links added by Danny on the previous CV site that guided me to find this. Simply by changing the old repo urls and 'zypper up', the latest 'cin' and 'cinx' upgraded as simple as before on my Leap 42.3 and Leap 15 machines :). My plan is to participate stronger in the year that follows, when I will get more time to apply Cinelerra on video editing. In the mean time I'm happy to notice the grow of Cin video tuturials here - and look forward to the first English editions ;) Terje J. H

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Forum
by Andrea paz 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

The Forum does not seem to be a success among old users. In fact, the passivity and convenience of simply reading incoming emails is unsurpassed. But the forum also has another function; it can happen to us a curious visitor or even just random. My request is then to put many video tutorials, How TO and Demo captivating that manage to attract the interest of an occasional visitor. Sam, could you post your videos on tracking with OpenCV (https://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/pipermail/cinelerra/2018q2/008589.html and https://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/pipermail/cinelerra/2018q2/008599.html) Phyllis, you could publish videos on flying titles made for Olaf (https://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/pipermail/cinelerra/2018q4/010496.html) or even the other where you used shared tracks and LUTs. But the more users you contribute, the better.

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Summary Report for week Dec. 1 through Dec 7 for Cinelerra-GG website
by Phyllis Smith 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

(Andre Gronwald suggested a weekly list, so trying it for this week to see how it goes) *Summary Report for week Dec. 1 through Dec. 7 on Cinelerra-GG* *Website:* - Received good reviews so far and appears to be very stable. - Sam continues to work on all aspects of the server and website behind-the-scenes. - Builds of cinelerra-gg, tars and pkgs, became available for the first time here. *Forum:* - Tutorial links added in Italian and German by Andrea and Wolfgang. - How To link for using CLUT and LUT by Andrea. - Demos added by Glen and Andrea showing the capabilities of Cinelerra in a very entertaining way. And Hellcat link by Wolfgang is in Q&A. *BugTracker:* - Seems to be a “hot’ item and it is much better for keeping track of issues than the mailing list. - The MantisBT software name is misleading. It is useful for “Feature” requests using the Severity field. But that’s not all, log any website, forum, bugtracker/documentation requests/suggestions/bugs. - About 17 issues were created in this first week. Go and look at these for details: 1 highlight resource window list items in usefulness 2 masking enhancements and improvements 3 new windows feature does not work properly 4 need to see places used and unused in timeline for a particular media 6 add a reset button to the video/audio plugins 7 real drag and drop and delete without having to lock tracks 10 larger thumbnails in clip tab 11 guicast/bccmdl.py not python 3 compatible 14 forum: editing title/post subsequently 15 forum: add login/logout 18 MantisBT defaults to subscribing all users to all updates 25 Gui HiDPI future support 26 Error deleting in timeline 27 In titler, some fonts can not be selected from drop down 28 Add titler own background paper 29 Cin crashes upon clip creation 30 Gitweb feature request for snapshot

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DeppL
by Sam 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

Hi guys, The translator DeepL, who works with artificial intelligence, now also offers Russian. I can recommend this translator to anyone who wants to translate into other languages. This translator has an extremely good translation quality, much better than the Google Translator. https://www.deepl.com/translator Sam --

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expanders.txt
by Andrea paz 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

I modified the file expanders.txt; I added two new sections: Time and Test; and I added/deleted several filters in the existing sections. You can find it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yh40h4q84ofci17/expanders.txt?dl=0 What do you think?

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Smooth transition
by Danny Schmarsel 08 Dec '18

08 Dec '18

Hello guys, I am very happy you all found a new home here. The website is great and I can see you've all put a lot of work into it. If you ever need any help, you can count me in. FYI: I've made another update on the CV website and redirected all old links to the new website - people already wrote me on my personal mail address about why the GG repositories weren't working anymore. :P That will hopefully stop the questions and bring more people over here. Also: I still own the Facebook site. In a wise move I named it @cinelerra back when I created it, so it'd be useable for this project now. It's got an existing userbase of over 200 people and I'd be happy to add more administrators if you're interested: https://www.facebook.com/cinelerra/ -Danny

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Re: [Cin] Monitor profiling
by Pierre autourduglobe 08 Dec '18

08 Dec '18

Hi Andrea, I would have preferred to answer you directly on the forum, but it seems impossible to "copy" text into the answer window. I also calibrated my monitors. My probe is not a "Spyder5" but rather an "i1Display Pro" from X-rite. The proprietary calibration and characterization software that comes with my probe does not work under Linux (but even under Windows I didn't like it that much...). So I chose to use the free software "DisplayCAL" (https://displaycal.net) on Linux, Windows and Apple, which works in collaboration and requires the reference color bank of the software "ArgyllCMS". I know they are compatible with the "Spyder5". I am very satisfied with it, I have calibrated all my monitors to the "Rec. 1886" standard offered in the menus. As you probably know, this only concerns the adjustment of monitors for their general use on the computer. Ideally, the software used should then be corrected individually if it supports the option. Right now, I don't think Cinelerra can. Pierre > I tried to profile my laptop monitor with the Spyder5 and DisplayCal. > The first image is the profile I normally use, calibrated on the D50 and which I find restful for my eyes: > D50 > The following image is made after going to Nvidia-settings and applying a hardware reset in the display section. The color temperature is so high that your eyes will be sore after a few minutes: > Hardware reset > This is the result of the calibration with the colorimeter: > Spyder5 > I think he's got a bad greenish dominance. > I did the calibration while the D50 profile was active. Is that a mistake? Don't profiles have to be set during calibration? > Or is it okay and is it only my habit to warm colors that makes me look wrong? > Again: what does "hardware reset" mean? Does it mean that the monitor is actually factory calibrated in this way? > > [There is not difference on screenshot; in live view there is difference!]

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Preview Vicon and red bar highlight
by Igor BEGHETTO 08 Dec '18

08 Dec '18

I would like you to focus on the powerful Preview Vicon that I called friendly "Spyder mode" for convenience. It works very good with one video track in timeline. However, in any cases you may have a few parts of a video on more video tracks and there, the "Spyder mode" is complicated. Moreover if you have many tracks on timeline (let say more than five?) with the "Spyder mode" you find the "x" coordinate on timeline but not the "y" (which track?). This discussion is just to focus on a possible problem/solution. I didn't find a name in the messages for that feature; sorry if I didn't see it. If any, can you (Developers) give a special name to this feature, please? Will be fine, I think. I added screencast about it: https://www.datafilehost.com/d/59aa2f9f What do you think about, please? Thanks IgorBeg PS: Too many place where to write. (Maybe I am on the wrong place)

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